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Think we need to show this clip that's really spurred this show because this there's this clip from Todd Wagner and Todd Wagner was the pastor of a church here in the area called watermark community church And it's a non-denominational church pretty large church He's recently stepped down because of pride whatever that means, but maybe it's because he had a few two Keggers or something going on. Yeah, maybe that's his problem But this guy he has a little like podcast that he had done in the past called Real truth real quick. It's really just like real heresy real fast. I guess but real real real heresy in real hurry, I guess but he tries to articulate why he does not believe that drinking is a sin and Somehow brings up drugs in the conversation. I mean, I can't even understand this whatsoever but let's tee up this clip here and let's listen to a little bit here of Todd explaining to us if drinking is a sin Welcome to real truth real quick. My name is Rick Smith I'm the director of digital ministries here at watermark Church in Dallas, Texas I'm here with our senior pastor Todd Wagner. And so Todd the holidays are rolling around They are people want to have a wine with their meal and the question is is it wrong for Christians to drink alcohol? What if the holidays not rolling around they just want a long neck with their pizza, is it wrong? Is that gonna send me to hell that near the question? Well, how about this? This is real truth real quick Let me just answer this a few ways. First of all drunkenness. We know is wrong wine is a mocker Strong drink is a brawler. Whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise that's Proverbs 20 verse 1 but I want to also read you some other stuff because again, we're trying to give a biblical take here and And so I'll say this. All right first Timothy. Let me just read it to you It says but the Spirit explicitly says that in the latter times some will fall away From the faith paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons by means of apocrisies of liars Seated in their own consciousness with a branding iron men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods Which God has created to be gratefully shared by those who believe and know the truth for everything created by God is good and Nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude For it is sanctified by means of the Word of God and prayer and so I wanted to say just based on that reading alone I don't know how you could say that the way you can tell if somebody's a Christian or not is whether or not they drink Alcohol what I would say is if you're not a person who whatever you do Whatever you partake in doesn't sanctify it by the Word of God in prayer, whatever you're doing You shouldn't do in fact, we're told to eat and drink to the glory of God So if there's anything in your life that you're saying I've got to have that in order for my holiday meal To be really a source of joy and pleasure to me That's a problem Because if you eat and drink like that food and that drink is the source of your joy or even worse is the source of your Comfort then no you absolutely can't drink that stuff But if on the other hand you sanctify it by the Word of God in prayer Somebody said wait a minute Todd. Does that mean heroines? Okay, I would say yes There is a way to use heroin sanctifying with the Word of God in prayer, by the way All right If you've ever had painkillers after surgery You've used it in moderation under the administration of a doctor who cares about you to help minimize your pain Which is a gift from God. All right to not go through that pain or we give you some forms of cocaine to help you be Even you know Away unaware when you're having surgery done to you so we can use every drug. Everything's given from God is good We use it though for our own destruction, but let me just read you some script. Okay, let's just pause it for a second We know that we're now to be drunk. This is where this guy just goes so crazy I can't even believe that he's literally saying that Heroin is a gift from God You Because you know, it's interesting they're not King James only which is a huge problem and He's basically saying everything instead of saying like every creature is good and nothing to refuse like the Bible actually says He's suggesting is everything's good. So now, you know toxic waste. I mean literally Excrement that comes out of your body is a gift from God. Well, you might as well consume that if we were serious Thanks to me. I mean, what do you see from a logical respect? How's that different? No, it's not. I mean everything would be fair game including Poisons like that waste and here's the thing to pastor Shelly is he claiming that people who would say alcohol is a sin, but that's a doctrine of devils. I Guess just saying anything is actually poisonous or bad for you I don't know that'll be I mean, what about the doctor who literally is just saying like don't eat this junk food or something Is that a doc that's a doctrine of devils now, I mean, can we not take the Bible in context? Is it not obvious that what we're talking about here is in the Old Testament. There was dietary restrictions and in the New Testament Jesus Christ has brought everyone back together and no more look Jew and Gentile There's no this separation and those pictures of the Old Testament Sacrifices of having this distinction between the Jew and the Gentile are now been broken so you can actually eat things like Pork you could actually eat other type of animals that were considered unclean Like rabbit or other different beasts of the field that you know weren't dividing the hoof and and you know They weren't chewing the cud now we can actually eat them because we're sanctifying that creature with prayer But to go from a camel to cocaine, I mean How You