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This is my story, this is my song, praising my Savior all the day long, this is my story. Hey everybody, Pastor Steven Anderson here with Faithful Word Baptist Church for the live telephone question and answer. First let me just mention a little bit about the wall behind me. This is a memorial I put together of the vacation that I just got back from and I would like to thank everybody who chipped in and made it possible for me to go on that vacation. I really appreciate all the people in our church and the listeners who put that big surprise together for me for the 10 year anniversary of our church. So what I did was a few days ago I painted this map on the wall behind me of the island of Maui and then I printed off a bunch of pictures from the trip of me and my wife and I put the pictures up actually on the map where they happened. So it's a way for people to come in this office and kind of get the highlights from the trip. So again thank you to everybody who made that possible, I had an amazing time with my wife and if you check out my blog, sanderson1611.blogspot.com, I'm giving a day by day rundown of the vacation and everything that we got to do. So tonight I'm going to be taking questions via telephone. The phone number to call is in the comments of the video. It's 480-465-1203. So again that's 480-465-1203 and I'm going to be answering as many calls as I can. I'm not going to spend a long time on the phone with each person just because I want to get to as many questions as I can. So try to just get to the point when you call and get through and when you do get through be sure that you turn off your computer on your end because otherwise we'll get all kinds of weird feedback and everything like that. And then also I printed off some questions that were asked on the Facebook group, the FWBC Challenging Questions for Pastor Anderson. So I'll be covering those in case there's a dead spot of no calls. So I'm going to take the first call right now and first I've got to get my headphones on so that I'll be able to hear what's being said, but I'm going to go ahead and answer the first call right now. Hello, yes, you're live with Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson, how you doing? My name is John Bonds. Hey, I'm doing great. I'm in Atlantic City, New Jersey. I wanted to say thank you for all your films, all your videos, everything that you do in the name of Jesus and I appreciate you so much. Well thank you for saying that. What's your question? Well, the question is, right, I turned around and gave my nephew, who's a Muslim, the thing about the Quran and the light of the Bible. Now when I did that, my nephew freaked out because he was so close minded that he didn't want to see it. And I'm saying, how can I be, I love him. Me and my nephew Shimmy has been like, when we were kids, all those years, but I'm asking myself like, why can't you see the truth when it's right in front of you? All I want to do, nephew, is save you from a judgment of what's going on. Yeah, well, hey, I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. You know, the Bible says the God of this world had blinded the minds of them which believe not. So, you know, he's under a strong deception of Islam, which is totally a satanic religion. And you know, that sermon is probably going to be pretty hard for a Muslim to swallow. It's more designed for the Christians to be able to, you know, be equipped to reach the Muslims because honestly, that sermon is probably too radical for a Muslim to just sit down and watch, you know, Islamide the Bible and Jesus. That's true. And I also went to Jay Smith, I think, or James Smith. He went to Awaken and how he was debating about Islam and how this is messed up and how, why are you doing all these doctrines, I mean, doctrines, and you're doing all of these information. I mean, you're adding things to the Bible. The Bible did it. We did it one time or one time only. God did it. Well, we didn't. God did it. Right. He did it one time or one time only. And that's it. Well, hey, listen, my advice to you with your nephew is just, you know, you got to talk to him because honestly, like I said, the movie is, or I'm sorry, the sermon, Islam in the light of the Bible is more geared toward Christians. So it's more designed that the Christians would watch that movie, learn about Islam, and then they would personally give the gospel to Muslims. And when they do, obviously they're going to be a little more gentle about it because of the fact that, you know, we got to speak the truth and love. Our speech always has to be with grace, seasoned with salt because, you know, when we're talking to the believers, obviously we preach real hard, but when we're talking to unbelievers, we got to come at them with a little more gentleness because, you know, they don't understand. They don't have the Holy Spirit in them. Hey, God bless you. I got to move on to other calls. Thanks for the call. I didn't never know that I'd get you, but thank you so much for my advice. All right. God bless you, my brother. Thank you. See you later. All right. So we're waiting for the next call. Again, the phone number is 480-465-1203. Here we go. This looks like New Mexico. Hey, how you doing? Are you from New Mexico? Yes, sir. I'm from Las Cruces, New Mexico. All right. Thanks for calling. Thank you for answering my call. Yeah. I'm just going to try to get through this as quickly as I can. My name is Ricky Martinez, and yeah, so I got saved when I was 12 years old. I'm 23 now, but I was, you know, living in the flesh for like, you know, 10 and a half years, because actually about half a year ago, I started listening to your preaching, and just everything started getting so clear, and you know, I started changing my life around and started walking in the Spirit. And yeah, I got into a church, it's called Scripture Baptist Church. It's pretty much the only really good church we're going to here in Las Cruces. We're about a population of a quarter of a million people. It's not the best church, you know. We, it is still preached, it is pre-trib, there's no soul winning going on whatsoever in the city, and I have a huge desire to become a pastor and to preach God's Word, but one thing that has been, you know, dawning me is when, you know, a couple years ago I was with this girl, and I was living in the flesh, you know, we were living in fornication together, and I ended up having a son out of wedlock, and you know, I know I could, you know, meet all the other qualifications, you know, a couple years, you know, six, seven years, however long it takes me, but I don't know if, you know, me having a son out of wedlock actually... Yeah, whether that disqualifies you from being a pastor. Yeah, my personal position on that, because, you know, if you look at the Scripture, obviously it does say the husband of one wife, but since you weren't married before, you know, all you did was basically have this son out of wedlock, you know, that would be not applicable, but it also says blameless, you know, so some people might say, well, you know, that's a major sin, so therefore you're not blameless. I disagree. I personally think that you could still be qualified, even if you had fornication in your past, you know, if you had a son out of wedlock. So I personally, you know, the way I look at the qualifications in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1, I would say that you're still qualified, as long as you've not been married and divorced. Correct. And yeah, see, I was going through the Scriptures... Are you married now, though, or...? Actually, no, but I am looking into, you know, finding myself a saved woman to get married to, and yeah, that's what I was just, you know, going through my mind, reading the Scriptures, of course, listening to your sermon over about our dating pastors and deacons and stuff, and I just didn't, you know, I just didn't know, and yeah... That's a great question. I'm going to move on to others, but good question, and that's where I stand. God bless you. Have a good one. God bless you, too. Bye-bye. All right, let's see what we got here. 304. I believe that's West Virginia. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. How you doing? Pretty good. I have a question for you. My name's Brian from West Virginia, and you covered this a little bit in some of your sermons, but I wanted to ask you about the Nazarite vow, and was that something that they imposed on themselves, or was it something that was imposed by God? And how come, once they took that, that the Old Testament, you know, laws and the, like, commandments of God no longer apply as far as they could now have long hair and all that? Well, first of all, it was something that was not imposed on them. It was something that they did of their own free will. It was something that people would choose to do where they would take on that Nazarite vow, and it was for a temporary period of time. So not everyone who took that vow would have necessarily ended up having long hair because of the fact that if they took it for, you know, six months or something, then that wouldn't even necessarily be long enough for their hair to get super long. So there were obviously people like Samson who, you know, for a longer period were a Nazarite, you know, from his mother's womb, it was ordained of the angel that he would be a Nazarite and so forth, but that was a special situation. Now you said that, you know, why did the law of God saying that, you know, a man was not allowed to have long hair, why did that not apply? Well, there really is no law in the Old Testament, you know, if you look up the Mosaic law and all the Old Testament scriptures, there's no law saying thou shalt not have long hair. So there really was no law about that. Now in the New Testament, the Bible tells us that it's a shame for a man to have long hair and that nature itself teaches us that, you know, so obviously the New Testament principle is very clearly that we should not have long hair. Does that answer your question? You know, so when somebody, when you would mention that to somebody and say, hey, men aren't supposed to have long hair and they come back to you saying, well, you know, Samson had long hair and he was a judge, you know, ordained by God, the answer to that would be, well, that just didn't apply in the Old Testament. Well, I'm not saying it didn't apply in the Old Testament simply because nature, if nature itself teaches us that a man should not have long hair, you know, then obviously nature was still around back in the Old Testament. So, you know, I'm not saying that men in the Old Testament should have had long hair, but I'm saying that when God had a special situation where a guy is told, hey, don't cut your hair, that wasn't violating any law, like any hard, fast law of thou shalt not have long hair, but rather it was, you know, in violation of a principle that says that men in general are supposed to have short hair. So, you know, the exception proves the rule. If men in general are supposed to have short hair, if the Bible says it's a shame for a man to have long hair, you know, if God chose to specifically have a guy do something that was shameful in the Old Testament, that's up to God. You know, for example, you know, God told Hosea to marry a whore. I mean, he tells him in chapter one, if you start reading the book of Hosea, he tells him to marry a prostitute. Okay, does that mean that that's a good idea for, you know, some New Testament Christian to go out and marry a prostitute? No, that was a specific thing that he was supposed to. Isaiah was told to preach naked for a period of a couple of years. So, you know, the exception proves the rule. Obviously, being naked is a shame, just like having long hair on a man is a shame. So, you know, when you have a clear scripture like 1 Corinthians chapter 11 that tells you it's a shame for a man to have long hair and that if a woman have long hair, it's a glory unto her. And if he says specifically that any man that prays or prophesies having long hair is dishonoring to Jesus Christ, well, you know, that's all we need to know in the New Testament. God's given us a real clear directive. And it's not that, you know, hey, it was great to have long hair in the Old Testament. It's just that in the New Testament, God holds us to a higher standard of accountability. He, you know, in the Old Testament, people tended to get away with stuff more. God was more lenient back then, you know, with people because they didn't have everything that we have. They didn't have the whole Bible like we have. They didn't have the Holy Spirit in permanent dwelling. And the Bible says, to whom much is given, of him shall much be required. So that's why God has stricter standards in the New Testament. And the Bible says the thought of foolishness is sin. So if somebody looks at 1 Corinthians 11, where he instructs us not to have long hair and then say, well, I'm going to do it anyway because of Samson, then, you know, I think that's just foolishness in my opinion. Okay. Well, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. God bless you. Thanks for the call. Yeah. You know, you're not Hosea. You're not Samson. You know, you're a New Testament Christian. Read 1 Corinthians 11 and there you go. Hello. It's Pastor Anderson. How you doing? Hi Pastor Anderson. How's it going? Hey, how's it going? I saw you, I believe, in the, was it the Washington DC marathon or the Portland marathon? Up in Portland. Portland. All right. They all kind of blend together in my mind. But I remember meeting with them. I know. It was great. And the question that I have is the, the debate that you did with James White, it was so popular. I think it's like, you know, 40,000 views or more. Is there any chance that you would actually like do a debate with say Sam Giff or some of these other guys that are always attacking you? Right. Well, here's the thing. First of all, a lot of people call that a debate. That really was not a debate whatsoever. That was just an interview for New World Order Bible version. So that's why I was kind of just letting him talk and I wasn't trying to like shoot him down or argue with him too much because of the fact that my goal was to get footage for the movie. It wasn't to like win a debate with him. It was, it was just all about how can we get the best footage? I mean, it's sort of like when I'm sitting with those rabbis and just kind of sitting there quietly as they say all this crazy stuff just because I want to get the best footage possible because we're making a movie. Now when it comes to debating Sam Giff, well, first of all, I don't, I personally don't like debates and I've never wanted to do any debates. I've never sought debates. I usually, when people want to debate me, I don't want to. But there was a guy who talked me into, you know, debating somebody on the pre-trib rapture and they said, you know, are you willing to do this? And they really talked me into it. So I said, okay, fine, you know, you twisted my arm, I'll do it. So he called Sam Giff and asked Sam Giff to debate me because I said that I was willing to debate Sam Giff on the pre-tribulation rapture and Sam Giff refused to debate me on the pre-tribulation rapture. So you know, that, the ball's in his court on that one. And then another time a guy talked me into, you know, being willing to debate any other pastor in Arizona. So I made the commitment and I said, I will debate any independent Baptist pastor, any pastor of any denomination in the state of Arizona on the pre-tribulation rapture. And this guy literally, he's an assistant pastor around here. He called 80 pastors, he called every pastor in the state and asked them if they'd be willing to debate me on the pre-trib rapture and no one was willing to do it. So the only people who've been wanting to debate me on this were people that are kind of like no names in a distant state. So I really have nothing to gain by debating them. So I said, you know, I'll debate somebody who's well known so that, you know, it can actually be profitable, but I'm not going to debate some guy who makes YouTube videos out of his garage or something. You know, when I said I would debate a bona fide pastor of a, of a brick and mortar, you know, meeting church that, you know, that's in my state or at least a guy outside the state if he has a similar following that I have, because otherwise there's no, there's no benefit to me. I'm not just trying to make some pre-tribber famous or something by getting him a bunch of views on YouTube. Does that make sense? Yeah. Your, your video with the interview with James White, although it wasn't a debate, I think most people would agree that especially followers of yours, fans of yours that would say that he was coming across pretty smug and you held your own with somebody who holds himself in high regard as such an expert and yet didn't even know what the word outdo means, you know. Right. Yeah. Hey, thanks for the call. Good day. I hope to see you again sometime and thanks for coming out. All right. Soul winning marathon Portland. Yeah. See you again sometime. Yep. God bless you. See you later. All right. Great question so far. The number of calls already coming in. These calls are just wall to wall. Hey, how's it going? It's Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson. This is Dylan. I live in Boise, Idaho and I work as a valet at a hospital and there is this say 94 year old Jewish lady that is always asking for rides in our golf, our golf cart. And so we are pick her up and she's always talking to us about these Hebrew words. And she always called me by my Hebrew name or whatever. And we have a new employee and his name is Isaac. And so I told her who he was and she goes, oh, his name is not Isaac, his name is Hawk. And I'm like, okay, this is America. And I was like, his name is Isaac. And she goes, oh, the Hebrew is Hawk. And I was like, okay, well, he's not Hebrew. And so we call him Isaac and she got like upset and like went off about how his name is Hawk. And so I kind of played it off and I'm like, okay. And she has always made derogatory comments about Jesus and about the New Testament. She's like, we believe the only testament. And I was like, okay, well, how do you say, how do you say Jesus Christ in Hebrew? And she goes, who? I said, Jesus Christ. And she goes, we don't speak your hand and walked away. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. You know, Isaac, according to the Bible, Isaac means laughter, right? That's why he was even named Isaac, but it was because Sarah laughed about the fact that he was going to be born. So I don't know where she's coming up with Hawk. Yeah, I don't either, but I thought it was funny to see her storm off like that. And I feel like if Christians actually had a chance to speak to a real Jew, because at least in the state of Idaho where I live, there's not many of them. So all the Christians I know, they had never even met a Jew, but they will defend Israel and defend Judaism tooth and nail. And I go to Treasure Valley Baptist Church where it's Zionism, you know what I'm saying? It's a very, very pro-Israel church. Right, that's where Sam Gipp delivered his sermon where he denied that Jesus was his Messiah. That's right. And think of what I wasn't there that day, because I would have furiously walked away. Every time I tried to explain to my church members the Bible on this, they completely just disregard what I say. So my question to you is how can you better, I don't know, how can I get Christians to see the truth on this? I mean, Christians can see the truth with the Holy Spirit, like why can't they see this? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, obviously marching to Zion is the best tool to get people to see it. But you can take the horse to the water, but you can't make him drink. I mean, some people, it's not that they can't see it, it's just that they don't want to see it. I mean, it's that simple, right? But it's good that you got to experience the disgust and disdain that they have for Jesus firsthand so that you can tell that marching to Zion is accurate. It is, absolutely. Yeah. Hey, God bless you. Thanks for the call. Have a good one. Hey, God bless you. All right, 480-465-1203 is the number. Another call is already coming in. Hello, this is Steven Anderson. Hey, brother Anderson. Good to see you. Thanks for taking my call. We met in Portland at the Soul Waning Marathon. It's Abdul. Oh, hey Abdul. How you doing? Hey, I'm good. Just one quick question on the subject. Hey, wondering if Babylon USA is around the corridor anytime soon. Yeah, you know, we're deep into it. We're looking at like May or June to come out with it. That's the goal, you know, God willing. But it's coming along great. We've already shot a bunch of footage and we've got a bunch of big interviews coming up. So do you remember the history guy from New World Order Bible versions? Yes. The guy that's in the Bible Museum. We already interviewed him, so he's going to be in it. A bunch of pastors are going to be in it. Hopefully a lot of people can be a part of it. So yeah, we've already shot a lot of it. Hopefully May or June. All right. Good to hear. Thank you for taking my call, brother. God bless you. All right. All right. All right. Here's another one. Yes, this is Pastor Anderson. How are you doing? Just fine. I have a question for you. My name is Kevin. I'm from Indianapolis. And I saw where you, on one of your videos, you were talking about Caitlyn Jenner and you actually preached something from the pulpit that you hoped that he would die and burn in hell and everything. Right. And I'm just kind of curious as to why you wouldn't be more concerned about preaching that he would somehow hear the gospel and be saved. Well, you know, it would be great if it were possible for Bruce Jenner to get saved because, you know, obviously it would be great if people would get saved rather than to die and go to hell. I mean, the Bible says that, you know, God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the sad truth is that there comes a point where it's too late for people. Like for example, after they die without accepting Jesus Christ, at that point, there's no point in praying for them to get saved. Well, the Bible's real clear that even before a person dies, they can get to a point where it's too late for them, where they become a reprobate, where God blinds their eyes and hardens their heart. And it says in John chapter 12, for example, of these types of people, it says, therefore they could not believe because God had blinded their eyes and hardened their heart. So at this point, you know, getting saved for Bruce Jenner is not an option because he's already a reprobate as evidenced by Romans chapter one. So the reason that I would like for Bruce Jenner to die and go to hell as soon as possible is so that he can not molest any children or pervert any more people's morals. He's going to hell anyway, might as well go today rather than tomorrow. So it's not like I can control whether he goes to heaven or hell. So I guess Timothy lied then, or Paul lied in Timothy when he said that God would have all men to be saved and come into knowledge of the truth. Well, no, I guess you didn't hear me when I just said that God's not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. And I even just told you that, you know, I would be willing for him to get saved, but I'm just faced with the reality that he's not going to get saved according to scripture because he's reprobate. So at this point, the only option is for him to continue to live and destroy our country and destroy our world with his filth or die and go to hell. So I choose for him to die and go to hell sooner rather than later. So if you don't understand the doctrine of people being reprobate, you know, then, then go study Romans one and go study John 12. And so I can tell you, yeah, I just would think I see you later. You don't think, um, you don't think about the fact that there's, you know, there's more to this subject than just the simple thing that you hear of, well, God loves everybody. It's never too late for anybody, but honestly, you know, there's a lot of scripture about people being given over to reprobate mine. I don't have time to spend an hour, literally I could spend an hour showing scriptures on, on being a reprobate. Yes. How you doing? It's pastor Anderson. Yeah. Hi pastor Anderson. Yeah. I go to a church and a Baptist church and they have a no child policy, so they don't allow any children in a congregation. You know, if you have any kids or a baby, you have to go down to the nursery and you know, the pastor is really strict about it. Right. Even I've even seen him like not allow a family inside the church because they refuse to put their baby in a nursery. So, uh, you know, my question is, how would you deal with that or how would you handle it? And like, what's the right way to go about that? Well, yeah, that's a great question. And you know, how would I deal with that? I have dealt with that actually. You know, I've seen these, these churches that are really militant where they'll force you to put your kid in the nursery or force you to put it in junior church. I've been at churches like that and, and had, and had this issue. You know, what I would do is I would just come in and sit in the service and refuse to leave and say, no, you know, you don't have the right to tell me not to come into God's house. You don't have the right to deny children entrance into God's house. And if they physically threw me out, then I'll go to church somewhere else. But I would go in there and sit down and, and, and say, no, no, you can't, you don't have the right. God said that the children, you know, should be suffered to come unto him. And this is God's house. This isn't your house. You know, and I would normally be very respectful to a pastor or be respectful to anyone else, but it's, but if they're trying to throw a child out of the church, you know, I would stand my ground. I do it respectfully, but I'd be firm and say, no, I'm not leaving. And my child's not leaving. Okay, great. Yeah. Cause I was thinking the same exact thing, but it's not biblical. So, okay, great. Yeah. And it's not just that it's not biblical. It's wicked, you know, in my opinion, you know, so yeah, it's real important that kids be in church. So, and, and the stupid junior church is no substitute for it. Yeah, no, it's not. Hey, God bless you, my friend. Thanks for calling. Thank you. All right. So the number is 480-465-1203. Here's another call. Hello. It's Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson. This is Tony Samet. I briefed him about you in Dearborn for your soul-winning marathon. I just had a question. I watched all your Revelation series and I was wondering if you've heard the doctrine that Jesus fulfilled Daniel 70 weeks and why you would feel that that didn't hold any water. Yeah, I guess you're, you're talking about what would be known as preterism. Yeah. I'm not sure if that is already doing that. I was just curious what your opinion on was that. Right. Yeah. Basically that the doctrine is known as preterism that says, hey, Daniel 70th week has already been fulfilled and they'll basically put most of the events or even all of the events of Revelation of Matthew 24 as being all in the past. Okay. Now, if we actually look up the scripture where Daniel's 73 week is mentioned, it says in verse 27, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the ablation to cease and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate even until the consummation and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. So for sake of time, I'm going to just try to give you a brief answer here, but in this verse it's talking about the antichrist or what it's referred to in verse 26 as the prince that shall come is going to confirm the covenant for many with one week and then he's going to in the middle basically cause the abomination that make it desolate to be set up. Well, some people will try to say, oh, that already happened with Antiochus Epiphanes before Jesus Christ. But remember in Matthew 24, Jesus said, when you see the abomination of desolation, that's when you flee into the mountains, et cetera. So Jesus is talking about it as if it's still coming. And then I've also heard other preterists try to say, well, in Daniel 9, 27, the he there is not the antichrist, the he is Jesus, you know, that Jesus is going to confirm the covenant with many for one week. But here's the thing. Why would Jesus set up the abomination of desolation? Because the next phrase it says he shall cause the sacrifice and the ablation to cease and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate. Well, you know, Jesus is not going to set up the abomination of desolation if he's warning against it in Matthew 24. Do you see what I'm saying? Right. I could be overthinking this, but it just seems like the wording, it actually, if it's a later chapter of Daniel says abominations of desolation, but in Daniel 9, it says for the overspreading of abomination, he made it desolate. And also I feel like, um, it kind of gives fuel to dispensationalism to put a 2000 year gap in between, you know, the end times and then Daniel 9. Well, here's the thing. It's not that, it's not that dispensationalists have put the gap there. God is the one who put the gap there because God could have said 70 weeks, but if you look at verse 26, he says that there's going to be three score in two weeks, then there's going to be seven weeks and then there's going to be one week. So there's already a gap between the 62 weeks and the seven weeks. So you know, people acting like, oh man, you're crazy to put this gap between the 69th and the 70th. Well, there's already a gap between the 62 weeks and the seven weeks. So the gaps are already there. The gaps are laid out in scripture here. God's the one who broke it into these three periods of 62, seven, and one. It's not that dispensationalism did that. And here's the thing about preterism that's so foolish is that, you know, did Jesus Christ come in the clouds? Did the trumpet sound? Did the dead in Christ rise first? You know, Timothy said, yeah, cause in the, in the book of, uh, you know, second Timothy, he said of false teachers who concerning the truth of earth saying that the resurrection of Christ is past already and overthrow the faith of some. So the resurrection had not happened yet. And not only that, but obviously, uh, Jesus' resurrection of, excuse me, but you know, the resurrection of the saints had not yet happened. But not only that, but, um, in Acts chapter two, when Peter's preaching, he said, well, David Sepulcher is with us unto this day. You know, David's still in the grave. David is not ascended into the heavens. So when, when Peter's preaching in Acts two, you know, David is still in the grave. So for preterists to just say that everything already happened, well, well, Christ didn't come in the clouds. There wasn't a resurrection of the saved, you know, that David was still in the tomb. There there hasn't been all of the plagues that we see in Revelation. We don't see all those things. We don't see the mark of the beast. I mean, to say that that stuff has already happened, you know, I, I think it's crazy and I don't, I don't even entertain the idea of preterism for, for five seconds, frankly. I agree with that. I just thought that it's just the one question about the day, just one more thing. Are you going to do a little moment videos before your Babylon? I was thinking about doing, uh, the Babylon moments. Yeah. Would you like to see some Babylon moments? Yeah, I think those are real great, you know, quick little videos that are really informational. Yeah. I, I think I'm thinking I'm going to, it's just a question of getting the time to do it. You know, I'm, I'm too busy doing a Q and A right now. I could be recording those moments. Hey, thanks for calling and thanks for coming to that soul winning marathon. Yeah, thanks. Yeah. God bless you. Have a good one. All right. Let's take another call here. 507 area code. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hello. I was curious what you would, or what type of tips you would give to a Baptist church up in Alaska for soul winning because it's cold all the time and it's, it's too hard to go door to door. Yeah. I understand what you're saying. Um, well, I'll tell you this. I have had a little bit of experience with that cause I lived in Chicago for a couple of years and I actually went soul winning in Chicago when it was like below zero one time. And I know to you, that's probably a warm day, you know, depending on what part of Alaska you're in. But in Chicago, like even when it's zero, it feels colder than that because of the humidity in Chicago. So it's, it's, I know in Alaska, some people say it's like a dry cold. So how cold is it where you are during the summer? It can get up to about 40, 50, 60, um, and in the winter it gets down to negative 50, negative 50. Would you know what the humidity is or no, doesn't matter. It's around cold. It's around what? 30%. Oh, okay. 30% humidity. Yeah. You know, I would say this when, when I went soul winning in below zero, here's how we did it. We would literally just get in the car with the heater cranked and then we would, you know, run up to a door, knock the door and we'd knock like one or two doors and then we'd kind of sit in the car for five minutes and warm up again and then kind of do it again. But I've never experienced the temperatures that you're talking about. But I mean, I would say this, you know, definitely all summer long you could be soul winning if it's 40, 50, 60. I mean, that's easy. Everybody does that all over America. Yeah. As far as the super duper extreme cold, you know, one thing that you could maybe think about doing, and I don't really know what your town is like or what your situation is like, but just anywhere where you can go and just, you know, meet strangers and win people to the Lord. Like I know sometimes when it's pouring rain, we've gone to like a nursing home or something and asked if we could visit the residents and talk to them about the Bible or a hospital or something like that. You know, that's, that's what I would probably suggest. Just because if you go six months without soul winning, it's real easy to get out of the habit of soul winning and then it's kind of hard to get back into it when you get out of it. Yeah. Yep. I know exactly what you mean. It's good to just stay in the habit year round because otherwise, you know, you get, you get out of it and you get backslidden, you know, it's easy to get, to get out of it. Hey, God bless you. Thanks for the call from Alaska. Thanks. God bless. Yeah. Have a good one. All right. Let's take another call here. Hello. This is Pastor Anderson. Hey Pastor Anderson. My name is Travis Lyle. I met you at the Portland Soul Winning event. I'm Scott Dunn's son-in-law. And I had a question. I was in the Navy. I go home every so often, see my family and all that, down in Arkansas. And my brother has recently become a Mason. And I know he's saved. We grew up in a Southern Baptist church. You know, he knows that it's not by faith. I mean, sorry. Whoa. It's not by faith. That it is by faith. Yeah. It is. Yeah. It's all by faith. He knows that. And, you know, he knows that you can't lose your salvation. And I know he's saved. But a really big influence and advice is my uncle, who is a Master Mason. And now he's a Mason. And I'm wondering what Bible verses I could use and what things, because I know your stance on Masonry and Sonic Lodge and all that, and what resources that I can turn to to show that it's not something that a Christian should be a part of. Well, yeah, that's a great question. As far as Freemasonry, I know that there are a lot of people who think that it's okay to be a Christian and a Freemason. And they'll even say, hey, the Freemason Lodge is a Christian organization and yada, yada, yada. But, you know, I'm assuming that he's not deep into it. It sounds like he just got into it. You know, I know that the uncle is deep into it, but how long has he been in it? He's actually a Master Mason himself, but we're from a really small town. Well, what's the degree? Isn't it like they get degrees? Do you know what number degree he got to? Well, Master Mason sounds like it's really high up, but really it's like the third step in Masonry. Yeah, because that's, from what I understand, and I'm not an expert on Freemasonry, but from what I understand is that the third degree is where it really starts getting weird. So that makes sense, like you said, that that would be, you know, where they're called a Master Mason, you know. Right. But even that in and of itself, like, you know, be not ye called Master, right? The Bible says in Matthew 23. But, you know, you'd think that people would notice, if they're in Freemasonry, just all the weird occultic, satanic type of things. And, you know, if he can't see that for himself, you know, what do you tell someone? But I'm sure that if you went on YouTube, there's got to be a lot of videos, Freemasonry exposed. I just haven't, I couldn't point to one in specific, but. Okay. Yeah, I watched the video and I called him, or he called me and was like, Hey man, I'm a Master Mason now. And I was like, telling him stuff that I knew that only Master Masons are supposed to know. And like, I knew what his insignia would be in the lodge. And he got mad at me, like, how did you know all this? I'm like, man, it's not a secret, I don't care how big you think it is, like you're in some cool kids club. But, you know, what I want you to know is that I know more than you about Mason. Right, exactly. And I know that it's not something that a Christian should be a part of. Especially, and I didn't have this talk with my mom while my brother was around, but I did bring it up to my mom, because her brother is the uncle that influenced my brother. Right. And I brought up the whole thing that we shouldn't take oaths and... Yeah, above all things my... Here's some, let me just throw a couple of scriptures at you that are popping into my mind. Above all things my brethren swear not. Right. And they're swearing all kinds of oaths. Or, you know, where Jesus says, but I say unto you, swear not at all, in Matthew chapter 5. Or, how about be not unequally yoked together with unbelievers. Because, honestly, is he actually under an illusion that everybody in the Freemason Lodge is a born-again Christian? You know, the vast majority are not saved. If there are even any saved people in it, you know, you said you believe your brother is saved, but I'm sure the majority is not saved. Right. Well, again, we're from a really small town in the Bible Belt, and most of those people are Baptist. They're saved, and I would say that they know the true gospel of Christ, but they're misled. And, you know, they have this, we're doing good for our community outlook. And for the most part in the smaller lodge, you know, I think that that's really what they think. I don't see, you know, the super high degrees having much involvement down there. Right. But I don't want to see that because I don't want my brother to be a part of that either. Yeah, but you don't even want to dabble in it, even in the bottom rung. No, no. It's satanic. It's occultic. Absolutely. It's totally wicked, yeah. Hey, I'm going to get to other callers, but thanks for calling. You said you were at the Portland Marathon, right? Yes, sir, I was. It was great. It was awesome. And you live in what area? You live in Oregon? Actually, we live north of Seattle, about an hour. Okay. All right, well, hey, God bless you. Thanks for coming to that, and it was good talking to you. Good talking to you, Pastor. Have a good one. All right, these are great calls, but we just want to get to as many people as we can because there's so many people calling. Hello, this is Pastor Steve Anderson. Hello, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. I'm sorry. Hey, how you doing? I'm doing well, sir. It took a while to get through, my apologies. No problem. I appreciate you doing this. It's a really awesome thing that you're doing. I was actually with my daughter watching one of your sermons just before this began. On the curse of blessed children, actually. We were going over that together. I have an eight-year-old little girl in my care, full-time by myself, so I'm learning how to be a Christian because I'm fairly newly saved and newly found my past here as a father and as a Christian. But I've been following you for quite a while. I want to let you know how much I have the utmost respect for how you stood up for your liberty, and that's how I found you. I actually found you through your checkpoints in your failure to obey documentary. Cool. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that that documentary was able to get some people listening to the preaching because obviously the spiritual stuff is the most important. Yeah, I've always enjoyed how you stood up and you're a real man of integrity, and you hold your ground, and you hold firm. You really do. Here's my kind of question. As I sit here, and yes, my daughter's here at the moment still, but about a year and a half now I've been saved, and I've been taking it very seriously, and we pray together, and myself, I pray every night before I go to bed and try to make sure I'm doing and following and studying and going forward as best I can. I've even been to church through your guy's directory and everything like that. We've got one here locally. My line of work has me in security type of work, and I've always had under my care and under my charge as a bouncer. I'm trying to get separated from that without jeopardizing the current full income of this child. That's actually the spot that I was in when I found the Lord, and now that I've got her in my custody and that's completed, I'm still on the path of trying to get a better full-time job. But how you can maybe guide me to some scripture or something on this matter, because I don't drink, and I never have or anything like that, but I'm still involved in that business. I still interact with people and things like that, but I'm not of that life by any means. I am good at what I've done and what I do, but I'm just trying to look for some guidance on there. Yeah, that's probably something that you're going to have to decide for yourself, but I don't know the exact atmosphere of your job, but I'm assuming that because you're a bouncer, it's a bad atmosphere. What is it? I'm actually the head of security at a bouncer in a nightclub. In a nightclub. Yeah, so you're exposed to a lot of sinful things and a lot of just temptations and a lot of junk and everything, right? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, but as have I been in corrections as well, like in my corrections also, and that's a very powerful position like a corrections officer is and can be, especially a man of faith. People look up to those certain individuals like corrections officers. Inmates do look up to those roles and stuff like that. Does that make sense? But you are in there with the worst of the worst, but you've got people in there paying attention. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. It's an opportunity to reach people also that are receptive to the gospel. Yeah, it sounds like you're in a tough position where you're a single parent and working as a bouncer and trying to get out of that. All you can do is just pray. It sounds like you're on the right track. It just sounds like you just need to pray and hang in there and make something happen. I appreciate that because I do pray on it, and I know that's the most important person I could be asking about it, but it bothered me because I'm being such a rookie that I am, and hopefully I'll always feel this way. I've actually had our last church frowned upon it and was trying to constantly bring it up and things like that. Well, I can see why they would frown upon it and not approve of that job, but at the same time, I see the position that you're in. I'm not going to judge you because I don't know your situation, but all I would do is just pray for you that you could get out of that situation and make things better because obviously the Bible says, make not provision for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof. Obviously, it talks about of the patriarchs in Hebrews 11 that if they had been mindful of that country of which they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. So if we constantly have worldly things in front of us, then there could be a tendency to go back to our old ways and so forth. Right, absolutely. Hey, God bless you. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Have a good one. Bye-bye. All right, 480-465-1203 is the number. Another call is already here. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. How are you doing? Hello, are you there? Hello? Yes, this is Pastor Anderson. How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing good. This is Stephen Harper. I'm from High Springs, Arkansas. Yeah, I've seen you on Facebook. How are you doing? I'm doing good. I have two questions, if that's okay. Sure. Okay. Well, okay, one question is, are you ever planning on doing a soul winning event in High Springs, Arkansas, or any part of Arkansas? Well, you know, we do have the one that's coming up in Atlanta, and then there's one in Texas. I know those are far away. But, you know, my goal is eventually to go to every major city in America. You know, as long as people keep showing up for these things, and so far every single one that we've done has been a huge success, and they keep getting bigger and more successful every time we do them. So if they keep on going good, and if people keep showing up for them, and we keep having, you know, 60 to 90 people showing up for these things, then, you know, I want to just keep doing them until I've gone to, you know, every major city in America. So I don't know if we would necessarily go to Hot Springs. We might go to, like, Little Rock, if that's the bigger city. Little Rock. Yeah, we'd probably do it in Little Rock, and then, you know, and then kind of get everybody from Arkansas to come out, hopefully. Because we're trying to start with the biggest cities that are in the areas where we can get the biggest turnout of listeners. So, yeah, I mean, eventually we'll get around to it. It's not going to be in the next, like, six or seven months, probably, but it's going to... Probably like a year or two. Yeah, probably like in the next year or two. Yeah, I mean, I would love to do it. Like, I look at a map, and I just want to go everywhere, you know what I mean? But it's just, it's kind of hard to travel and then hold down the fort here. But now I've got actually an assistant at the church that's working for me, so it's making it easier for me to do stuff. So, you know, I might be able to do more soul-winning events this year than last year, just because of, you know, having more hands on deck. So what's your second question? Okay, my second question is, when certain Christians that come up to you talking about the woman calling in adultery, how do I combat that? Like, let's say if someone is a reprobate or something, and they say, well, this person at the well, I'm going to say at the well, calling adultery, she was let go because Jesus, you know, he didn't want to, you know, stone her. But at the same time, it was like a catch-22. Right. Yeah, it's just people don't really understand the story, you know, because in the story, it says basically that they came to him tempting him, okay? And there were a bunch of times where they did this to Jesus, and he gives them kind of a tricky answer that just kind of shuts them up and makes them look stupid, okay? So it says in verse 6 of John chapter 8, this they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him, okay? So when they bring this woman to him taken in adultery, it's not that they really believe in stoning her or want to stone her for adultery as the Mosaic law commands, it's that they're looking for a way to accuse him. So the question is, who are they looking to accuse him to, okay? Because of the fact that other times when they came to him, for example, about paying taxes, you know, they want to get him in trouble for not paying taxes or whatever. Or they want to get him in trouble with the, you know, with the libertarians that don't want to pay taxes. So they're kind of just trying to put him in a catch-22. So the Romans, if you remember, in the same book of John, the Bible tells us the Romans had made it illegal for the Jews to put anyone to death, okay? So when they wanted to crucify Jesus, the Jews couldn't do it. They take him to Pilate, and then Pilate says, well, take him and crucify him according to your law. And they say, well, it's not lawful for us to put any man to death, okay? So basically, Jesus is in a position where if he says, yeah, go ahead and stone her. Go ahead and kill her. You know, the Bible says if a woman committed adultery, she shall surely be put to death. Well, if he says that, now he's in trouble with the Romans. Now he's inciting violence to the Romans. And if he says, well, no, don't put her to death, then he's contradicting the law of Moses. So that's why he comes at them with this clever answer of, well, he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. Because he's neither telling them to do it or telling them not to do it. He's just kind of confounding them right there. Now, at the end of it all, he tells her, neither do I condemn thee, you know, go thy way sin no more. Here's the thing, Jesus has the power to forgive sins. So a couple things we can learn from this story is that, you know, Jesus is merciful and Jesus does forgive sin. And also we learned, of course, that Jesus was clever enough to where no man could ever trip him up. No man could ever confound him. He always won every argument with them and always made them look foolish. So, you know, to sit there and say that this is Jesus repealing the death penalty and just no death penalty ever again for anyone. And all sin is equal. And all sins equal. Where does it teach that? What I would ask is where in John chapter 8 verses 1 through 11 does Jesus teach that the death penalty is repealed? He doesn't. He says cast a stone at her. You know what I mean? But he says he that is without sin among you. Okay? But that's because he's just saying that to them to outsmart them. Okay? Obviously, in the Old Testament, you didn't have to be without sin to carry out the death penalty. I mean, if someone needed to be executed in the book of Leviticus, he said the person who accuses them, their hands shall be first upon them and afterward the hands of all the congregation. So, you know, the whole congregation would be involved in putting people to death. They didn't have to be sinless to do that. And in Romans chapter 13, the death penalty is reiterated because it talks about how God has ordained the powers that be to be a revenger of wrath upon him that doeth evil. And it says he beareth not the sword in vain. Well, you know, the sword is not used to put someone in prison or give them a spanking. You know, the sword is for death. You know, to slay with the sword. So, does that make sense? That makes sense. Alright, cool. Thanks for calling. God bless you. I'll see you in Little Rock. Alright. Alright, God bless you. Well, I may see you in the future. Alright, buh-bye. Alright, let's get the next call here. Let's see if we have to wait more than a split second. The number is 480-465-1203. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Yeah, how's it going, sir? Great, how you doing? Not too bad. First of all, I'd like to thank you for all the great work you're doing. I appreciate you saying that. No problem. I had a couple quick questions here. I was looking over 2 Peter 3.10 and it's talking about the day of the Lord and that. Right, yeah. Now, it starts talking about, In the lips the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. That just kind of trips me up because I'm trying to figure it out. I thought the day of the Lord is the rapture and that. Yeah, you're absolutely right that the day of the Lord is on the same day as the rapture. And in fact, the statement of being a thief in the night is the same statement that's used about the day of the Lord in 1 Thessalonians chapter 5. So this is the same day of the Lord on which the rapture occurs, so let me help you understand. It says in Revelation 6, when it talks about where the sun and moon are darkened, when the sixth seal is open, and that's where the rapture occurred according to Jesus, is after the sun and moon are darkened. It talks about how the heavens departed as a scroll which is rolled together. And also in Job 14.12, it says that they will be resurrected, they will not be resurrected until the heavens be no more. So part of the things that happen on the day of the Lord and on the day that the rapture takes place is this idea of the heavens departing, the heavens being no more. Here it says the heavens shall pass away with a great noise. So those things all fit together perfectly. And where it says the elements shall melt with fervent heat, that makes perfect sense too because of the fact that God talks about with the seventh seal being open that he's going to rain fire from the sky at that time. So things burning, fire raining from heaven, the heavens pass away. This is the same day of the Lord that we see in 1 Thessalonians 5. And it says that the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works therein shall be burned up. Well, a half hour after the rapture when the seventh seal is open, there's the half hour that goes by, the first trumpet sounds and the Bible says that all the green grass on the whole earth is burned up with that first judgment when God just first begins to pour out his wrath after the rapture. So it makes sense for the Bible to say the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up when you consider the fact that all green grass is going to be burned up. One third of trees will be completely burned up. I mean, that's a lot of fire, right? Yeah, it is. Yeah, so that would be my answer to that. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense. I just was thinking maybe it was talking about after the thousand year rain. Yeah, that's what I used to think too, actually. When I first read this, I thought like, oh, that must be after the millennium because then a little later he talks about a new heaven and a new earth. But from studying the Bible more though, it's clear that the day of the Lord is the day of the Lord. And the fact that he brings up the new heaven and the new earth a little later is just because he's just trying to make that point about how we kind of have to loosen our grip on the things of this world because things are going to be burned up, things are going to be destroyed and eventually there is going to be a new heaven and a new earth. Hey, God bless you. Thanks for the call. Good talking to you. Have a good one. Hey, I'm going to take a real quick break from calls because I want to go to a question that was asked on the Facebook group. And the reason why I want to do that is that it kind of relates to what I just talked about with this caller. So it makes sense to talk about it now. And this question is from Ben in Belgium who is actually the moderator of that group, the FWBC Challenging Questions for Pastor Anderson group. And so Ben from Belgium is asking a question about the fact that when the seventh trumpet sounds in Revelation, it talks about how there are voices, thunders, lightnings, a great earthquake and great hail. And then when the seventh vial of God's wrath is poured out, you also see the same elements, the voices, the thunders, the lightnings, the earthquake and the great hail. And I pointed out in the Revelation series that I did that those are actually happening at the same time. You know, that the trumpets and the vials happen together. And I pointed out that similarity between the seventh trumpet and the seventh vials. So Ben is asking, well, you know, if those things are the same, what about in Revelation chapter 8 verse 5 where it lists a lot of those same things? You know, in Revelation chapter 8 verse 5 it says, And the angel took the censer and filled it with fire of the altar and cast it into the earth. And there were voices and thunders and lightnings and an earthquake. So four of the five elements are there that we saw in those other verses. So he's saying, well, you know, is this the same event? Or, you know, that's what people would look at that and maybe think when they see that. And that's what Ben is pointing out, that similarity. Well, here's my answer to this. Is that the fact that those same things are happening with the trumpets and vials is not the main reason why I believe that the seventh trumpet and the seventh vial are happening at the same time. It's because all seven in the series line up. You know, you look at the first trumpet, the first vial, second trumpet compared to the second vial. And if you compare all of them, you'll see a connection. Also, if you look at the chronology of the book of Revelation and you realize that chapters 1 through 11 are in chronological order, chapters 12 through 22 are in chronological order, then it fits perfectly again to have the first trumpet, then the first vial, second trumpet, second vial, third trumpet, third vial, that these things are happening concurrently. Okay, so that's the main reason. It wouldn't be enough evidence that just the same elements are there. But the reason that we know for sure that Revelation 8.5 is not concurrent with this is because this happens right before the first trumpet sounds. So how can it be the same as the events of the seventh trumpet when it's all the way back at the first trumpet? Now, I believe that the reason for the similarity here is the fact that this is just characteristic of God ending a series. So when the seventh seal is opened, you have voices, thunders, lightnings, and an earthquake. Seventh trumpet, same thing. Seventh vial, same thing. So all of these series is in the same way. The seventh seal, the seventh trumpet, the seventh vial have these similarities. But let's just read it together quickly and show how there's no way in the world these could be the same event. Look at chapter 8, verse 1 in Revelation. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God, and to them were given seven trumpets. So anybody who reads that can clearly see that the trumpets happen after the seals, not concurrently with the seals. Because it just goes right in to the trumpets straight from the seventh seals open, and we start handing out the trumpets. Then also look at verse 5, it says, and the angel took the censer and filled it with fire of the altar and cast it into the earth. And there were voices and thunderings and lightnings and an earthquake, which is the event that Brother Ben was talking about there. And then in verse 6 it says, and the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. So basically, these voices, thunders, lightnings, and earthquake happen at the beginning of the trumpets. The other set happens at the end of the trumpets. And it's crystal clear when you look at chapter 8 verses 1 and 2, and then when you look at verses 5 and 6 together. So that characteristic just ends all the series in the book. So thank you for that question Ben, and for setting up that group. Another question from the Facebook group is from Devin Rogers. He says, hey there's a clear commandment in the Bible not to make graven or molten images. So why then do we see Moses told to make a brass serpent? Why do we see the four oxen in the temple, the four molten oxen that are under the sea in the temple, where there's three facing north, three facing south, three facing east, three facing west. And why do we see the two cherry beams of gold on the Ark of the Covenant? So this is a question that I've received a bunch of times actually. And so I'm going to start out by answering the easy part of the question and then get to the harder part. But first of all, when it comes to the brass serpent, you know, why did God tell Moses to make a brass serpent if it's wrong to make molten images, if that's idolatry? Well, if you look at John chapter 3 verse 14 it says, and as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. So according to the Bible, that brazen serpent that was lifted up represented Jesus Christ being lifted up on the cross. And you say, well, how could a brazen serpent represent Christ? You know, the serpent is the devil. Well, because the Bible says in 2 Corinthians chapter 5 that he who knew no sin became sin for us, that we should be made the righteousness of God in him. So according to the Bible, Jesus became sin for us. So that's what that's pictured by where the serpent is lifted up. That's representing sin because obviously the devil is the serpent. So it makes sense that if the picture is a picture of sin, of Jesus Christ becoming sin for us, of him taking upon himself the iniquity of us all, it makes sense that he would use a sinful image to represent sin. So what better image than a serpent and what better image than an idol of a serpent because a brazen serpent is idolatry, okay? So that I think is pretty easy to understand. The next question about the four, I'm sorry, the 12 oxen that are under the sea in the temple. Well, my answer to that would be that God did not design the temple. You know, God designed the tabernacle. That's what he told the children of Israel to make. He never told them to build the temple. That was David's idea to build the temple and then Solomon carried that out. And God did condone of them building the temple. He did say that it was a good idea and yeah, go ahead and make the temple, Solomon. But this idea of the oxen, the molten oxen being underneath the sea and holding it up, I do not believe that that is something that came from God. I think that that's something that Solomon did and that that was an imperfect design. So just because Solomon built that does not mean that God told him to build that or wanted him to build that. And then when it comes to the question about the cherubims of gold, this is a little bit tougher of a question. But I think one possible solution to this would be that because the image is of these angelic beings and not of a human being or of an animal, maybe that's why God allowed it. Maybe that's why God told them to put these images of cherubims. Perhaps it's okay to have an image of, you know, these beings, these cherubims, but not of any animals or any human beings because the Bible, let me just read for you a scripture here in Deuteronomy 4 verse 16. And I'm just giving this as one possible explanation for that. Deuteronomy chapter 4 verse 16, it says, Lest ye corrupt yourselves and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flyeth in the air, the likeness of anything that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth. So clearly we're not supposed to make a molten image of any animal, okay? And clearly we're not to make a molten image of any human being. But possibly the cherubims don't fall under that, okay? Or you could just say, well, this is an exception, you know, where God wanted them to make this one specific thing. And again, the exception proves the rule. That doesn't mean that just because we see God putting these cherubims on the Ark of the Covenant that we just have a carte blanche now to just disregard the commandments of God and make a bunch of images of animals and humans. So I think it's either one of those two answers. It's either, hey, cherubims don't fall under that. Just like if I made a molten image of a palm tree, that would not be idolatry because that's not male or female. That's not a human or an animal. If I made an image of a house, if I made an image of a, you know, a statue of, you know, something that's non-animal or non-human, it wouldn't fall under that. So perhaps cherubims also don't fall under that. Or it could just be an exception where, you know, God can do whatever he wants, but he definitely doesn't want us to make, you know, graven images and so forth. All right, so I'm going to get back to some calls here. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Oh, what's up, Pastor Anderson? Not much. How you doing? Doing good. My name is Nico. I'm from Modesto, California. I just wanted to ask you a quick question. I've been trying to get into soul winning really, but my church that I go to doesn't really do it that much. Rarely at all. And so, but what I've been tripping up about was the intro part. I know you say, you'll go ahead and you'll say, you know, I'm from this church, you know, blah, blah, blah, you know, and you'll get into it. Like, I know the middle and the ending, and it's just hard for me to get the conversation started, I guess, for Dorado Soul Winning. So do you have any other options from your point of view? Yeah, let me just make sure I understand your question. You're basically saying that because your church is not into soul winning and your soul winning is not sanctioned by your church, you don't want to say, hey, I'm from X, Y, and Z Baptist Church. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay, cool. That's what I thought you meant. Here's the thing. We have these big soul winning marathons that we do every couple months where we're going to Portland, D.C., Dearborn, all these different places. And, you know, a lot of those, or all of them, you know, there wasn't a church that was in that town that was sponsoring our event. So we weren't able to invite people to church either because it's not like we said, hey, everybody, you know, we're from Faithful Word Baptist Church in Phoenix, Arizona, because people would have just thought we're crazy for inviting them to church. Hey, we want you to come to church 3,000 miles away. So we actually had a different intro at these marathons where we basically, we ran off a bunch of copies of our films. Like, we made 2,000 copies of New World Order Bible versions, 2,000 marching designs, 2,000 after the tribulations, and we showed up with a flyer about the film and a movie, and we just walked up and said, hey, we're just in the neighborhood handing out copies of this free Christian film. Are you a Christian? Oh, okay. Hey, we're just giving out a Christian film. What's that? Oh, okay. So you think I should be handing out a track for like an intro or something? Well, if you walked up and said, hey, I'm just here to hand you a track, that doesn't sound as cool as, hey, I'm here to hand you this DVD that just came out. Yeah, exactly. So make some DVDs. Print out some, you know, we encourage people to duplicate our films, you know, after the tribulation, New World Order Bible versions, marching design, you know, the book of Revelation. They say, write on them, copy and share this disc. So, you know, duplicate it or buy a copy and take it somewhere and duplicate it, you know, and you have our permission. It says, write on the disc, copy and share this disc. Awesome, awesome. Great idea. Hand those out and then that gives you something to say, like an icebreaker that you're giving out in movies. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Thank you so much, bro. That has just helped me a lot. And hey, here's a better advice too. You need to hop in the car and drive up to Sacramento and go soul winning with Verity Baptist a couple times too. I'm thinking about it too, bro. I'm thinking about it too. I know it's far on a weekly basis, but honestly... Yeah, it's about an hour and a half away. Yeah, but you should honestly go a couple times just to get some of that experience of soul winning, yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right, man, God bless you. Thank you so much, bro. Thanks for coming. Yeah, God bless you. All right, let's take the next call. West Virginia once again. Hello, it's Pastor Anderson. Yeah, Pastor Anderson. My question is, I have a lot of family and extended family and they're really charismatic and one of the main things that we hear a lot from them is anointing, anoint people for this, anoint people for that, and they do it, what seems like to be excessively, and not only people, but they'll say, go around and anoint your house, your door frames, your windows, everything like that, and that guards. That's going to... I don't know, they feel like there's power in that. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's like superstition, right? Yeah. Can you tell me, I guess, your take on what the Bible talks about anointing and what would be a proper biblical response to do it? Yeah, absolutely. The only anointing that's a literal oil anointing that I see in the New Testament would be in James chapter five, and in James chapter five it says, Is any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. So anointing the sick with oil is biblical and praying over them in the name of the Lord, but I would point out that right after that it says, and the prayer of faith shall save the sick and the Lord shall raise him up, and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. So when you read that, you get the impression that this person doesn't just have the sniffles. If there's a possibility that they did some major sin to even be that sick and the fact that they, it says the Lord shall raise him up, meaning like this person's in bed, like they can't even get up, they're that sick. If they're going to have to be raised up, it means they're not walking around. They don't have the walking around flu or what were they called, the walking pneumonia. I mean, this is somebody I think that's in serious, serious shape, not just, oh, I got the flu, come anoint me with oil, I have a cold, anoint me with oil. I've anointed people with oil and prayed for them when they had like stage four cancer or when they were very ill and prayed for them and stuff like that, but not just willy-nilly. But anybody who comes to me and says, you know, I'm sick and I want to be anointed with oil and prayed for them, I've done that for them. You know, but- Okay, would you say that it should be an elder or a pastor, like the verse says? Well, I mean, that's what it says, let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. So it would make sense that it would be a pastor or a deacon or something that would do that. You know, that would be my impression from that. And then what about doing it like preemptively, like, you know, you're not, you're going into surgery or something like that. Yeah, I don't see that in the Bible. So, you know, but I mean, I'm not going to cast stones at somebody if they want to do that or judge them. I'm just, personally, that's not something that I do. I would pray for them, but I, you know, I don't do the preemptive anointings. And also, you know, this idea of, oh, anoint your bed, anoint the shower, you know, anoint the toaster, you know, this is just super, this seems like a superstitious kind of, you know, this seems like they've come under the influence of like Hinduism or something, you know, if they're going to, you know, do that kind of superstitious kind of stuff. I mean, what are they going to do next? Start crossing themselves and carrying a rabbit's foot and everything, you know? So I would stay away from that as being unbiblical. Okay, thank you. Yeah, God bless you. Thanks for calling. Good question. All right, let's take the next call here. Another West Virginia. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hey, it's good, but I'm having trouble hearing you. Can you get better signal? Hey, Dan. What? How's it going? Can you hear me? I can't hear you well. Hey, call back with some better signal. Sorry, can't hear what you're saying. Somebody's deep in West Virginia, not able to get the signal there. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hi, Pastor Anderson. How are you? Good. How are you doing? Oh, pretty good. Hey, thanks for putting all your sermons up on the Internet. I try to listen to them as many as I can. My pleasure. I'm glad to be talking to you. I do have a question. One thing that trips me up, just because I don't see it in the New Testament, is this Gog and Magog war that in the end times, all these nations come against Israel in a war, and God saves them from a war, and then they all convert and believe on Jesus Christ. I just don't see it in the New Testament. I see it in Ezekiel. Do you think this is a war that happened in the past before, or what do you think this is? Well, there can be absolutely no question when Gog and Magog, the battle of Gog and Magog will occur, because the New Testament does tell us very clearly, because it's mentioned in one place. Just search the word Gog and Magog, and it's right there in Revelation chapter 20, after the millennium. Okay, after the millennium is the battle of Gog and Magog. That's what the Bible actually says. And you know these Tim LaHayes of this world, and the pre-Trib architect, they'll do all these mental gymnastics of why, you know, the battle of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20 is not the same battle of Gog and Magog of Ezekiel, even though that's the only battle of Gog and Magog that's ever mentioned. So it's crystal clear. There can be no doubt that the Gog and Magog of Revelation 20 is the same Gog and Magog of Ezekiel 38 and 39. In fact, I've been meaning to preach a sermon about this called Gog and Magog. I just haven't gotten around to it. But this part about Israel all converting, and they're all going to get saved and everything, that part is totally fabricated. So they come against Israel and... Well, they're not coming against Israel, because if you look it up in Revelation 20, it says that, you know, it says, So what the Bible is saying there is that the battle of Gog and Magog, they're going to compass the camp of the saints about. So yeah, it will be in Israel. It will be Jerusalem, but it's going to be after Jesus has been ruling from Jerusalem for a thousand years. So it's not the fake Israel that's under attack. So these pre-Tribbers are like, Oh man, we can see them getting ready for the battle of Gog and Magog, because we see all the Middle Eastern nations are against Israel. You know, and they turn it into a Zionist thing. Well, they're about a thousand years early on this battle, because this battle is going to be after the millennium, you know, according to Revelation 20. So fire is going to come down from God out of heaven and devour them at this battle, but that's after the millennium. So yeah, it's Israel and Jerusalem, but it's the Jerusalem of Jesus. It's the Jerusalem that Jesus has been ruling and reigning from. It's the saved that are going to be under attack. It's the camp of the saints. It's not a bunch of Polish people, you know, who call themselves Jews that are under attack. Does that make sense? Yeah, that helps a lot. Yeah, that helps a lot. I'm going to go back and try to read that through Revelation. Yeah, and honestly, I could give you a better answer, but it would take a long time, but that's it in a nutshell. So I will eventually do a sermon, you know, that's going to be called Gog and Magog, where I take like an hour and really, you know, do justice to this question. Okay, I'll be looking forward to that. Thanks for taking my call. God bless you. Have a good one. Have a good one. Bye bye. Thank you too. Bye bye. All right, let's take the next call. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. How are you doing? Hey, pretty good. How are you doing? Great. This is Eddie. Hey, if you don't mind, I have two kind of really quick questions. Okay. And I'll make them really quick. First off, I know you're a KJV only guy. Yes. And I have two things, because this is something, I've watched your discussion with James White, and I really found the dialogue and the experience between you two to be really enlightening. Like, I really enjoyed it. Good, I'm glad you did. Yeah, but there's two, and I understand your position very well and I understand his position, but there's a couple things that I couldn't really reconcile and I've always wanted to know from you. Okay. First off, it's pretty obvious that your position is against the Catholic Church, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm very anti-Catholic. Yeah, absolutely. Right. So how do you reconcile the fact that the KJV was translated from the Textus Receptus, which was written by Erasmus, who was a Catholic monk? Well, it's not that the Textus Receptus was written by Erasmus, who was a Catholic monk. It was that the Textus Receptus was first published or compiled or edited by Erasmus, who was a Catholic monk. But here's the thing about that, though. The King James Bible is not translated from the edition that Erasmus edited because Erasmus's Textus Receptus came out almost a hundred years before the King James came out, okay? So what Erasmus was doing was just publishing the Greek New Testament and mass producing it so that people could look at it and see that the Latin text of the church was not right because the Latin Vulgate had been corrupted over time, and so he put a parallel version out in the early 16th century that showed the Greek on one side and the Latin on the other side in order to demonstrate that the Latin was not accurate, okay? But by the time the King James Bible translators went to work, the Textus Receptus had been revised multiple times, and the reason that's important is just that people had a chance to go over it, and a lot of non-Catholics went over it. A lot of anti-Catholic people went over it with a fine-tooth comb, you know, and went through it and verified things long before the King James translators went to work on it. So the King James translators were operating mainly from the editions of Stephanus and Beza, who were not Catholics. So the fact that it started, like, it's funny because James White will always talk about, oh man, Erasmus's first edition of the Textus Receptus was so sloppy because he was in a hurry he was trying to be the first one to come out with it, you know? He really wanted to be the first one to come out with it, so it was precipitated rather than published. But here's the thing, that doesn't matter because it had, you know, around 90 years for people to go over it and fine-tune it and make sure that it was right. Okay, I was always curious about that, and I'm glad you answered that. And then my second question is, I know you take the position that, you know, the KJV was a completely inerrant translation, and the other thing too is, how do you reconcile the fact that it talks about unicorns in the Bible, like Job 39.9, it says, will the unicorn be willing to serve thee or abide by thy crib? Right. When we know nowadays with our modern translations, the word rehen, the Hebrew word rehen, means ox. So that's clearly not a unicorn, it's a mythical animal. How do you reconcile that? Well, here's the thing, we don't know that because I disagree with that. Are you, you know, neither you nor I is fluent in Hebrew, but I've studied out the word unicorn and done my diligence of research. I believe that oxen is a foolish translation. Think about how ridiculous that is because an ox will abide by your crib. So to sit there and say, well, this is clearly an ox. Well, the ox will abide by your crib, so that would make Job be meaningless, okay? It makes more sense that it's probably, it makes more sense, it's probably like a rhinoceros, okay, is probably what it's referring to. See, the word unicorn just comes from the word uni, meaning one, and then the corn would be like our word horn. So all we know is that it's a one-horned beast. You know, I don't want to destroy the dream of any little girl who has a trapper keeper with a white horse on it with a spiral cone on its head, but, you know, that may or may not be what the Bible's referring to because it's just referring to a single horned beast and it could very likely be referring to a rhinoceros. But, you know, you're not going to sit there and have a rhinoceros abiding by your crib, but an ox every day, you know, go to Montana. But I guess... What's that? If I can clarify my question. I'm sorry, if I can clarify my question maybe a little bit. Sure. The majority of most modern scholars, when they do translate that word wren, they translate it as not oxen, but like water buffalo type oxen, which we have not domesticated. Well, a lot of them do translate it just simply as oxen because I've seen that in the modern versions. So you are right about that, that that is how they translate it, you know. And if you look at the ox that are in that area in Israel, they're more like, you know, you would imagine them more like the water buffalo in Africa that you always see them crossing through the river and the crocodile gets them. It's more that type of ox, which... It's possible that the word... It's possible that the unicorn is just an extinct animal that we know nothing about. That's very likely as well, or it could be a rhinoceros. But, you know, if that's your big indictment on the King James, I mean, to me, that's not a big important issue to me because, you know, all I know is that it was a vicious animal. It was a rough animal. To me, I'm not really into zoology to that extent where that's going to be my big, you know, doctrine right there. No, I would never... I would never... I would never indict the King James Bible. When it comes to the position of translation, I'm pretty liberal. I'd say teach their own because I would rather have someone read a simpler Bible and understand it than muddle through 16th century English maybe and they don't understand it. So I'm just... 17th century English. Come on now. Yeah, I apologize. Alright, hey, thanks for the call. Have a good one. Bye-bye. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hello? Yes, hi, how you doing? It's Pastor Anderson. How you doing? My question was about Daniel 11 where it talks about the king of the north and south and what leads up to the abomination of desolation. Right. A daughter mentioned Cleopatra or someone who we are yet to see and is there any sense that can be made of the kings of the north and south? Okay, so I believe that this is referring to... and let me just say one thing first of all is that I need to do a little more study in this area. I'm actually right now in the process of memorizing the book of Daniel. That's my big memorization project, you know, for the year of 2016. But I'm only... I'm on the third... I've got two chapters done and I'm working on a third one. So once I've memorized Daniel chapter 11, I'll have a better understanding. I'm going to do a lot more study on this. But just off the cuff, you know, you're just kind of calling me up and then just off the top of my head, I will say this that after Alexander the Great's death, you know, that empire of Gratia that's mentioned in the book of Daniel as that third kingdom, his kingdom was divided amongst his generals and there was a northern partition and a southern partition and yes, I do believe that that is referring to Cleopatra from what I understand at this time. Once I do more study, I'll be able to give you a more concrete answer. But to answer your question, these are rulers that succeeded Alexander the Great ruling different parts of the Greek empire after it was divided because if you remember, the beast that represents the empire of Gratia was a beast with four heads. It was a leopard-like beast with four heads and that's because Alexander the Great had these four generals that took over after he died and it was split into four pieces. So does that answer your question? Yeah. Well, awesome and keep up the good work. Thanks for that. Yeah, thanks. And let me just elaborate a little more is that, you know, there was a foreshadowing of the abomination of desolation that happened before Christ came where there was a guy named Antiochus Epiphanes who was a Greek king who desecrated the temple. So there's some of that foreshadowing in Daniel chapter 11 and then Daniel chapter 11 obviously also points us to the, you know, the end times, end times events. Right. All right. Hey, God bless you. Thanks for the call. All right. God bless. Thanks. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson. This is Brother Aaron from Vancouver, Washington. Hey, how's it going Brother Aaron? Good. Hey, my question, I just have a quick question. It's on 1 Corinthians 11. Okay. And I'm sure that you've probably heard this question before but I've actually never even really thought about it too much. There better not be the power on her head because of the angels. Is that what it is? It is. You know what? I have no idea. So you get the award for stumping me tonight. Well, it stumps me too so far. I just wanted to see what you want. Yeah, I don't have a clue. That's a pretty rough one. Okay. All right. Well, keep up the good work. Yeah. God bless you. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. God bless. Hey, you know, you got to admit when you just don't know the answer, right? Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson. This is Peter from Jersey. Good to talk to you. Hey, what's up, Peter? How you doing? Not bad. I just wanted to ask you two quick questions if I can. One, I just want to, I've heard you talk about it a little bit. Can you just clarify like why you think for sure Babylon in Revelation is not referring to Jerusalem? Okay. It seems, you know, the guy who asked about Gog and Magog. Yes. You know, it's been taught that people are, you know, certain nations are coming in against Israel. If I'm correct, isn't that also taught about the certain Zionists teach that about the battle of Armageddon as well? And if you know anything about that, if you could just tell us why that's not true as well. Sure, yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, the battle of Armageddon, they're coming against Jesus Christ. You know, that's clear in Revelation 19 and Jesus Christ defeats them. And in, you know, the battle of Gog and Magog, it's the same thing. They're coming against Jesus Christ. So, you know, these Zionists, they're just grasping at straws. But, you know, I want to answer your first question. What was the first question again? I'm sorry. Why do you believe that Babylon... Oh, yeah, yeah. Why is there no way that Babylon is Jerusalem? Well, here's the thing, you know, the saying goes that when you have a hammer in your hand, everything starts looking like a nail. So, you know, for example, we put out the movie Marching to Zion and we exposed all the evils of the Jews and showed how the nation of Israel is a fraud. And, you know, as people study that subject, they'll realize, wow, you know, these powerful Jewish bankers are in control of this world. And they're basically, you know, behind a lot of the darkness and the evil in this world. So then it's like everything just becomes the Jews. So, Babylon, mystery Babylon, oh, that's the Jews. That's Jerusalem. That's the city. But let me give you some reasons why there's no way that that could possibly be. First of all, if you remember, it talks about in Revelation 17 how the ten kings, okay, will hate the whore and make her desolate and naked and eat her flesh and burn her with fire, for God has put in their heart to fulfill his will and to agree and to give their kingdom unto the beast until the word of God be fulfilled. So, you know, it wouldn't really make any sense for the Antichrist to basically destroy his own capital city. I mean, we know that the Antichrist is going to be ruling from Jerusalem. I don't think there's any question about that, that, you know, the Antichrist will rule from Jerusalem, right? Right. So, therefore, why would basically Jerusalem be destroyed, you know, so that he can reign? That doesn't even make sense because he's going to be there, okay? That's his city. So they can't be the same. The Antichrist and Babylon can't be the same. There's a difference there, okay, because one of them turns on the other. Now, here's the big reason why it cannot be Babylon is because Babylon, it says, will never be inhabited. It's going to be destroyed with fire and it's never going to be inhabited again. Well, you know, Jerusalem is going to be inhabited again, for crying out loud. I mean, a few weeks after Babylon is destroyed and Jesus is there ruling and reigning. So how can you sit there and say that Jerusalem is never going to be inhabited again when Jesus rules and reigns from it for a thousand years? And that's not the New Jerusalem because the New Jerusalem doesn't come until after the millennium, okay? So that's one big reason. There are lots of reasons why. I know I listed five. There's a video that I put online where I said five reasons why, you know, Jerusalem cannot be Mystery Babylon. That's a couple of the reasons. Is that a certain sermon that you preached? Yeah, I preached a sermon called The New World Order of Babylon where I covered it. There's actually a better sermon than that, though. Give me one second. I'm going to look it up on YouTube right now while I got you on the phone because there's a better sermon where I really covered it. It was a Zechariah sermon that I did. Let me just see if I can find it in my YouTube videos real quick. Yeah, Zechariah chapter 5 is the one where I go into the most detail. So if you're thinking that, hey, maybe Jerusalem is Babylon or I'm not sure where I stand, listen to the Zechariah 5 sermon because that was one where I was prepared more than just off the top of my head and I went through and laid it out. But, I mean, that's a few reasons right there. You know, if the ten kings hate the whore and destroy the whore, and think about this, the Jews aren't the whore of the New World Order. The Jews would be more the pimp if you think about it. They're not the whores. They're the pimps. And so the US is the whore because what is a whore? It's someone who's used and abused and discarded when you're done with it. Well, think about it. The US has all the military. The US has all the power. The US has the technology. We have the global influence. We're the one superpower. So it makes sense that the Antichrist would use us as his whore and then when he's done with us, cast us off and destroy us. So whatever the Babylon is, it's never going to be inhabited again after it's destroyed. That cannot be true of Jerusalem. But that could be true of the United States if the United States is just nuked off the face of the earth, you know, in Revelation 17. Okay, here's another reason that just popped into my head. You know, at the midpoint of Daniel's 70th week is when Jerusalem is punished. So why would God, at the end of the week, act like, oh wow, I need to punish Babylon. He's already punished Jerusalem at the midpoint. So the timing's off by about three and a half years as well. Yeah, this right here, the Revelation series, which I'm sure you've probably seen, you know, I do cover stuff about Babylon in chapter 17 and chapter 18 on this. But honestly, the Zechariah 5 sermon is the place to go. Okay, great. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the new film as well. Cool, yeah, and the film, I mean, I think once people see the film too, this doctrine is going to be real clear in their mind. That's part of why I'm coming out with the film is just because, you know, I want to really do a thorough job with this subject. And that's why, as I mentioned to a previous caller, I'm doing a lot of study in the book of Daniel because I really want this film to go deep in the book of Daniel and clear all this stuff up. Because to understand the subject of Babylon, you've got to say Daniel. I mean, Daniel talks a lot about Babylon, and none of that jives with this Jerusalem theory at all. But it does jive with the Roman Empire and also the United States, which is like a new Roman Empire. Look at all the Latin text everywhere in Washington, D.C. I don't want to go on too much about it. You've got to watch Babylon USA to get the whole thing. But thanks for calling. Yeah, I don't want you to spoil your own movie. Yeah, I don't want to spoil the whole movie, exactly. So, all right, take care. Tell Joe I said hi. Yes, sir. All right, God bless you. Bye-bye. All right, we're ready for the next call here. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor, it's Jeremy from Oklahoma. I met you at Brother Donnie's church in Fort Worth. Anyways, my question, I'm curious about the timeline of Satan. Like, from beginning to end. Like, at what point does he go bad? You know, his fall. I've heard Peter Ruckman. Peter Ruckman talks about him falling from heaven, and then at some point during the tribulation period, of course he's pre-trib, but then he falls from the second heaven, and then he's cast down to earth. I don't know. It's weird, but you get into a lot of strange doctrines, like in the beginning, you start getting into Gap Theory and a bunch of strange doctrines, and then towards the end, you know, like Ruckman, starts getting into some bizarre doctrines and stuff like that. And I was wondering if you had anything that just talked about that timeline, you know, like at what point does he fall? At what point, like obviously he deceived Eve in the garden, you know? So, I don't know. Well, I don't really have a video that's like a one-stop-shop on that subject. It's actually a great idea for a sermon. But I'll just give it to you in a nutshell. And first of all, I would say to avoid anything from Peter Ruckman, because he is a false teacher, and like you keep using the word strange, that's the best word to describe his doctrines. And the Bible says we should not be carried about with divers and strange doctrines. But I agree totally with that. So, let me give you a timeline here. You know, I believe that Satan was created in the original creation week, because I don't think that there was anything before that. In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. I mean, that's the beginning right there. And I believe that he created all things that are in both the heaven and the earth in that creative act that took place over the course of those six days. So, I believe that the devil was created in the beginning, you know, in Genesis chapter 1, along with everything else. There's no gap, because if you look at Exodus 20 verse 11, it's clear that there's no gap. And I believe that Satan went bad when he came down to the earth and tempted Eve with the forbidden fruit, because that's when you see God cursing him and turning on him and basically rebuking him. So, I believe that that was his sinful act. He wanted to be like God, and he wanted to take the place of God, and so he wants to be the one to tell man what to do and to take control of man's life or become an authority figure in man's life and deny what God's telling them to do and get them on his own agenda. So, as far as the devil being cast out of heaven, the devil still has not been cast out of heaven, because even when we see the book of Job, he's going to and fro in the earth, walking up and down in it, and then he is in heaven talking to God. And it talks about him being cast out of heaven in Revelation chapter number 12, and that hasn't happened yet. That's in the future yet. And when he is cast out, he knows he only has a really short time, and so he goes out to persecute the woman, and the timeline is given there of the seven years, because there's the 1260 days and the 1290 days and etc. So, the one verse that people would point to to try to say, hey, the devil's already been cast out of heaven, is when Jesus sends out the apostles in the book of Luke, and they go out and perform miracles, and they come back and tell Jesus about all the great things that they've done and how even the devils were subject to them. Jesus makes the statement, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. But just because Jesus says, I saw Satan fall from heaven, that could be Jesus seeing that into the future, as is clearly laid out in Revelation 12. Because obviously, people see things, especially God, he knows the end from the beginning, and he speaks about the things which be not as though they were. So, he can prophetically say, I beheld Satan fall from heaven, because he clearly falls from heaven at the beginning of the tribulation. That's what starts the tribulation, according to what we read in Revelation 12. Okay, cool. Now, I mean, yeah, no, that sounds right. That makes perfect sense. And really, I think the falling from heaven, I wasn't as curious as much about that as I was, but at what point did he go bad? And then you kind of explain that at the point that he deceived Eve, was the point that you believe that he basically went bad. Yeah, I mean, the Bible doesn't give us a lot of detail, but I mean, it had to have been real early on, because he hadn't been around that long. Right. All right, brother, well, I thank you. Yep, thank you for the call. God bless you. Have a good one. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson. I was just listening to you, and this is Louis from New York, right? Yeah. And on Genesis chapter 1 and verse 4, it says, God saw the light that it was good, and God divided the light from the darkness. Does that make the darkness bad? Well, you know, yeah, I mean, God does use darkness as symbolic of bad, like men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil, God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, the blood of Jesus Christ, his son cleanses us from all sin. I mean, it's definitely pictorial of that, which is bad. But then there are also verses that are positive, like, you know, God dwells in the thick darkness, you know. Right, I was looking at that, too. Okay, because I'm trying to use the law of first mention within the Bible and have the Bible interpret itself, and I see that in verse 2, the darkness was without void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. So, like, with these words of darkness, like, because I remember the caller just before me was asking about, like, Satan's timeline. Right. And does that, could that have to do with Satan there? Like, because I believe that, you know, like, the earth is, like, old, if you look at it like that, but human history is, like, 6,000 years. Like, he was also talking about in Exodus, chapter 20, verse 11. Yeah, right. Where it says the heaven, the earth, and the seas, that he created everything, all that. And all that's in them was all created in six days. Right. So that would close the gap between Genesis 1 and Genesis 1, 2. There can't be a gap there. Right. Right, but remember when he made the firmament, he called it heaven. That was in the second day, right after he named the darkness, uh, night. So, could that be talking about that, the firmament that he called heaven? Because it's talking about heaven, earth, and the sea. Here's the bottom line. If you, if anybody just picked up their Bible and just reads Genesis 1, Yeah. There's no way they're ever going to come up with that gap, period. That gap wasn't come up with until the 1800s, when people started teaching evolution and finding all these fossils. Yeah, no, I understand, but I'm saying- Everything that I read in the word of God, that's all. Yeah, but I'm telling you that that's when the gap theory was made up. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Okay. I'm telling you that that's when it came out. It came out in the 1800s because they're like, oh man, these scientists are proving that the earth is so old. What are we going to do? We got to find a way to make this fit. So they came up with the gap theory. Okay. But before that, there's no way somebody's just going to pick up Genesis 1 and just come up with that. And these scientists are so full of crap that I don't know why I would have to come up with a doctrine to answer these guys. In fact, I'm coming out with a video in a couple weeks that's going to really make fools of these so-called scientists, because I'm making a video called professing themselves to be wise, which basically shows that these so-called experts and scientists are actually fools. They're not as smart as they want you to be. Definitely looking forward to that. Yeah. They are willfully ignorant of the truth because these atheistic scientists, they really push this, that the Bible can't be true because of the evolution and whatever. Awesome. Yeah. If you believe in the gap theory, I mean, that's your belief. I don't believe in it for one second. Yeah. And I don't think it's a doctrine that has to do with anything about salvation. It's all by faith. Can't lose it. So I believe that 100%. Good. You know, I listen to a lot of your sermons and I'm learning a lot from them and I also do my own studying without the commentaries like you suggest and everything like that, because I don't want to get, you know, I just want the pure word of God. Yeah. And yeah, thank you so much for everything. Yeah, hey, have a good one. God bless you. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Yeah, hi. Yes, hey, how you doing? Yeah, I'm calling from the UK, Pastor Anderson. All right. How you doing? Yeah, not too bad. Not too bad. I love your style. I love your style. It's different. I like it. I like it. Well, thank you. I know that it's not really the UK style of preaching for most pastors over there, huh? Yeah, no. It's pretty dark spiritually over here and it's nice to see someone with so much zeal. So yeah, I like your style. Well, Scott's got a question because I haven't seen you touch on this. Hey, can you mute the computer in the background real quick? Yeah, sorry, sorry. No problem. Yeah, I've seen you touch on a variety of subjects as you do and incredibly informative, but one question is sort of germane to Christ and stuff and it's a common question and it shouldn't matter, right? But I think it does to a large extent because we live in a tribal society, tribal globe, really. And I'm just wondering what do you think about the color and depiction of Christ and historically and now and what specifically, what color skin do you think he had? I know it shouldn't matter, but we do live in a tribal and a world which is plagued with xenophobia, bigotry, and racism and I'd just like to know what you think about this and because everything in the world, of the world, tells us that it should matter and that race does matter, but we know not to take that seriously or to entertain that, but we've become just trying to understand what I'm saying. Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying. So yeah, I agree with you. I don't think it matters and I, you know, if it mattered, then God would have made a bigger deal about it in the Bible. I think it's a non-issue. I don't, I don't care what color he was, but I will say this, that I believe that he was brown skinned. I don't believe that he was black. You know, there's a movement out there that says that Jesus was black, the blacks or the Israelites. I don't believe that for five seconds. He was black, Hebrew Israelites. Yeah. I found that. I found that quite. Yeah. Here's why I believe what I believe. Okay. Cause I don't believe that he was, you know, blonde haired and blue eyed white boy either. I don't believe he was white or black. I think he was probably brown skinned. Here's why I say that. Because if you study the Bible, the Hebrews, the Israelites, you know, of which Jesus came, they were often confused with the Egyptians. Okay. Because if you remember, Joseph passed for an Egyptian to his brethren. And if you remember the apostle Paul, they thought the apostle Paul was an Egyptian. And then, you know, the daughters of Jethro, they thought that Moses was an Egyptian. So, you know, I think that all of the indication in the Bible would be that the, that the, that the Israelites looked similar to the Egyptians, same part of the world, et cetera. And we do have preserved images of Egyptian hieroglyphics because of the fact that the conditions in Egypt allowed things to be preserved. And we can see that they are not black people and they're not white people. They're just like a brown skinned person. Yeah. Right. Okay. Well, I just wanted to add that some of your sermons have been absolutely brilliant. And I like the one on, I think it's, I love the one on Paris and the one on the Americas. I thought they were brilliant as well. Powerful sermons. You know, some of the stuff that sprung up in regards to you and, and the sodomites. I just think it's, I just think it's a, it's a powerful message and I just think it needs to get out there a little bit more. And I think you are sort of gathering more attention and, and I was just, just happy to come across someone. I just wish you were my pastor. Well, I really appreciate you saying that. Thanks for the encouragement. God bless you, my friend. No, I mean it. God bless you. See you later. Thank you very much. All right. Let's get the next call here. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Are you from Northern California? Yes, I am. This is Lori. Oh, hey Lori. You were on the Portland Marathon, right? I was there, yep. All right. What's going on? Well, I had a question about street preaching, about whether or not you're for or against that. Yeah, I'm actually against it because of the fact that whenever I've seen street preaching, it's been pretty obnoxious. Usually it's just a lot of bullhorning and yelling at people that aren't really listening, that aren't really interested. When I've seen people do street preaching, usually it's like, hey, you need to repent of your sins to be saved kind of a message. They're usually not just teaching salvation by faith alone. And usually it's an obnoxious thing. Now, I will say this. I have actually done street preaching before because when I was in Bible college, they gave me an assignment where I was supposed to do street preaching. Okay? So I went out and did it. And I didn't want to feel like an idiot just like preaching to nobody. So I went to this place in Chicago where people were waiting for a train and there were just like a big crowd of people waiting for a train. And I stood in front of these people and just preached real loud and preached to like 25 people. And like no one would even make eye contact with me while I was preaching. They were all kind of just looking down. Everybody was just real uncomfortable. And then I walked up to one of these guys and I said, did you understand anything that I just said? And he's like, no. And I said, hey, can I take my Bible and just show you what the Bible says about how to be saved and everything? He's like, sure. And then I actually won the guy to the Lord by just walking up to him and talking to him. So I'd rather skip the step of the awkward yelling on the street corner and just go straight to just walking up to somebody and just ask him. Right. It seems like it is more effective. Yeah. And here's the thing. If street preaching doesn't work, then why would I do it? And even if you talk to these people who are super into street preaching, they'll be like, oh, we got one person saved in the whole year of street preaching. It's like, what's the point? But usually it's because they're these people who don't believe soul winning works. So they think that like having one person saved a year is awesome because they don't realize that we're supposed to be winning more people to the Lord than that. You know what I mean? Right. Right. And that's the other thing is I've seen some street preachers like on YouTube or whatever, and they seem like they're into the lordship salvation. Oh, yeah. Where it makes it sound like you could just lose your salvation at any moment. It's like, what? That doesn't make sense. Yeah, totally. That's kind of the crowd that's into street preaching. Because here's the thing. If you actually love people, you're actually going to walk up to them and talk to them nicely and try to get them saved. Whereas I feel like a lot of street preaching is just like a macho, chest pounding, like, yeah, we're going to go out there and we're going to preach and, yeah, we're bad. We're awesome, you know, and we don't, you know, Pastor Anderson's against free preaching because he just doesn't have the guts to go to the gay pride parade and rip some face. I mean, you know, the gay pride parade is the last place you're going to get people saved. So that's why I'm not into it, you know, and plus I don't even want to look at that filth. So I just go to somebody's door and look, here's why I like door to door better than anything else, because it works the best because people are more comfortable when they're by themselves, when they're in their home than in weird scenarios. Right. So my other question is a little controversial kind of, I guess, is, you know how it says in the Bible that, you know, men shouldn't dress as women and women shouldn't dress as men. Right. So do you think it's a bad thing for women to wear like pants or should women only wear skirts? Yeah, I believe that it's wrong for women to wear pants and my wife and my daughters don't ever wear pants and they only wear skirts and dress. My wife's worn only skirts and dresses for, you know, the last, you know, 14 years or so. And I do believe that pants are something that pertains unto men because otherwise if pants are not the clothing that pertains to men, then what is? I mean, that's kind of the only thing that would be different between men and women is whether they're wearing a skirt or pants because colors, like we might think, oh, the color pink is female and blue is for men. But honestly, you know, other cultures, they do pink and it's not girly to them. So it's just. Right. I think that pants versus a skirt. And the Bible does mention pants five times and it talks about being on men. And also God talks about, he talks to Job and he uses this phrase a few times, gird up thy loins like a man. So I think when he's saying gird up your loins like a man, they would take basically the skirt of their garment and tuck it into their into their girdle, basically like. Oh, OK. So if you didn't have any pants on underneath, then, you know, whoa, you just exposed your nakedness. So but the reason it says gird up thy loins like a man is because a man would gird up his garment because he has pants underneath. So he's not nude. Whereas a woman, if she girded up, you know, her skirts of her garments, if she girded up her loins, then, you know, it would be obscene. So. Right. Right. OK, well, thank you so much. And keep up the great work. Yeah. God bless you. See you later. Bye bye. Yeah, it's a great question, you know, and that's something that I've preached about a lot and I do take a lot of flack for that. And people will criticize that and say, whoa, you're against women wearing pants. What are you, the Taliban? You know, what are you, Osama bin Laden? But honestly, you know, in this country, it was illegal for women to wear pants in the early 20th century. There are people who were arrested for crossdressing in this country. You know, my dad went to high school in Los Angeles, California, in the 1960s. So this isn't exactly the Bible Belt. He was in L.A. in the late 60s and the dress code at the school was that girls were not allowed to wear pants, not allowed to wear shorts. They had to wear knee length skirts and the boys had to wear pants. So, you know, it's kind of new in our American culture where it's become normal for, you know, women to wear pants. And God forbid that we ever get to the place where it becomes normal for men to wear skirts and dresses. But all you have to do is look at the bathroom door and realize that the universal sign for a man is a man in pants and the universal sign for a woman is the woman in the skirt. And if women are not supposed to wear the clothing that pertains to a man, well, I would love for somebody to tell me what that is if it's not pants. Because what other clothing would pertain exclusively to men? Historically, it's always been interpreted that way. And people say, oh, nobody wore pants back then. But pants are mentioned in the Bible five times as britches or hosen. So, you know, the men did wear pants. The priests were commanded to wear pants that went down to their knees, for example. So I will take another call here. What? A few seconds without a call? What's going on here? What's the deal? There's no way that I've answered every question. There's 23 missed calls here. So I'm going to go to some internet questions from the Facebook group. But we've got a question from Chris Nelson. It says if one wants to be a pastor, you know, but the only good independent fundamental Baptist church in his area, they won't send him out as a pastor because he's not pre-trib and he's not a Zionist and he's not into repent of your sins and salvation. He says, you know, what do I do to basically become a pastor? Well, frankly, you just have to move to a place where you can go to a church that will train you and send you out. Because, you know, if you're that serious about serving God where you desire the office of a bishop and you want to be a pastor, you know, then that's a sacrifice that you should be willing to make to be able to move and get the training that you need. And if you're going to go somewhere and start a church, then, you know, you're going to have to move anyway to do that if you go somewhere to plant a church. So, you know, I would say that the answer is clearly to move to a place that has a church that will train you. And then also he asks about the fact that I had mentioned that, you know, I think a man should read the Bible ten times cover to cover before he is ready to pastor. And he said, you know, he's asking me, you know, is that really necessary and is six times enough? But I say that it should be around ten. Now, I will say this. There's a very godly pastor that I know. There's a young guy when he started pastoring and he did an amazing job. And he had read the Bible nine times when he started. Okay. So, okay, but at least he's close to ten, you know, not like six. So I would say if you've read it six times, it's time to read it, you know, four more times or even ten more times. I had read the Bible cover to cover, I believe, twenty-four times when I started the Faith Forward Baptist Church. I just put these out there as just my opinion, my general guidelines. If the Bible says that you should not be a novice, for example, then I would say that a person should have, you know, been saved for at least seven years, been married for at least four years, have a couple of kids, read the Bible cover to cover about ten times. You know, that's what I believe is just a good rule of thumb that somebody knows what they're doing and knows what they're talking about. We have enough pastors out there who don't know what they're talking about. So read the Bible ten times for crying out loud. And if you read it for an hour a day, then that would only take you two and a half years to read it cover to cover ten times. And if you're going to be a pastor, then, you know, reading the Bible an hour a day, good night. I mean, think about how much people study to become a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer or all these other jobs. Well, being a pastor is more important than any of those jobs. So you should expect to do some serious study and work hard at the training and not to just expect to just, you know, read the Bible six times and boom, let's do it. It's not enough. You know, I don't think it's enough. I think, you know, nine or ten times would be a minimum. I think that there's something wrong with the phone here because I'm not getting any calls since the last call. And before that, it was just wall-to-wall calls. I mean, unless I've just answered every single question and I've just solved all the mysteries of the universe in the last two hours, there's got to be more calls coming in. So I don't know what the deal is with this. You want to try and see if this phone works? You want me to just call you? Yeah, why don't you call me and see if it works? So while he's working on that, I'm going to go to another question from the Facebook group. And this is a question from Skyla Edwards. And she asks this, she says, what does saved mean? Does it mean saved from sin? And then she mentions a guy named David Pawson. I guess this is some false teacher that I've never heard of. But she says, well, David Pawson says that if we're saved from sin, then there's no way we could have eternal security or there's no way that there would be a once saved, always saved if we continued in sin. Well, the answer to the first part of the question is that saved does mean saved from sin because in Matthew chapter 1, it says, thou shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins. So that is what we're saved from, our sins, including the penalty of our sins, which would be going to hell for all eternity. Well, you say, well, you know, how does that jive with once saved, always saved? Of course it jives with once saved, always saved, because all our sins are forgiven. And Jesus died for our sins before we were even born. So he died for our sins past, present, and future. And the sins that we haven't even done yet are already paid for. And the Bible says in Romans 5 at the end there, it says, where sin abounded, grace did much more abound. And then in Romans 6 verse 1 it asks the question, what then shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. So if we continue in sin, grace will abound. But should we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. Here's a call. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hi, Pastor Anderson. This is Tony from Chicago. How's it going, Tony? Going pretty good. I just want to say God bless you, sir. I came across your videos about a year ago. And basically the Word of God is in my mind, by the way, when it's preached the way it's supposed to be preached. God bless you for that, brother. I appreciate that. Thanks for the encouragement. I have a question. I go to a church that's basically people I grew up with my whole life. I basically get called the devil by friends, family members, people I knew all my life just for saying, you know, that salvation is my faith alone and that there's no way you can lose it. And I mean, some of these people I know personally, they're genuine, good Christian people, they believe in Christ, but they believe you can lose your salvation. My question is, do you believe that people like that are saved? No, absolutely not. I don't believe that they're saved. I mean, you know, they're calling you the devil. It's like, that's like the people who believed in a workspace salvation in Jesus' day. They called the master of the hells be Elzebub, the Bible says. So how much more than shall they call them of his household? So they're going to even call you worse things than the devil. But the Bible says in First John, for example, it says, we're of God, little children, and have overcome them. For greater is he that is in you, that he that is in the world. They are of the world, therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We're of God. He that is of God heareth us, or he that knoweth God heareth us, he that is not of God heareth not us. You know, hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. I might have messed up a word or two there, but the bottom line is that John is saying, you know, when people listen to us preach the word of God, that's what John was saying, then we know that they're saved. Because the Bible says also in the Gospel of John, he that is of God heareth God's words, ye therefore hear them not because you're not of God. So when people are just refusing to listen to what the Bible says about salvation, they're clearly not saved, because he that is of God heareth God's words, and ye therefore hear them not because you're not of God. Yes, like clearly I'm giving them, drawing them out a map on how easy it is that it's like they're literally spiritually blind. That's exactly what they are, yeah, it's because they're not saved. Yeah, you're right. Well, that's a great therapy. Well, I want to take up all your time, but I had one other quick question for you, just pulling off the subject. I mean, as a pastor, what's like some of the most supernatural things you've seen, maybe a miracle or a healing or any of the other supernatural events? You know, I personally have not witnessed supernatural events such as healings or miracles that I could point to, but that doesn't really bother me, because John the Baptist did no miracle, the Bible says, and there were times in the Bible where people went hundreds of years without seeing miracles. But honestly, probably the most supernatural things I've seen is that I've definitely seen a lot of people who were demon-possessed, and I don't have any question about the fact that they were demon-possessed. So that's probably the most supernatural thing that I've seen, you know, along the lines of probably what you're asking. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I've had a lot of experience. I've given illustrations in my sermons. In fact, I have a sermon called Possessed with Devils, where I think I gave some of those illustrations. And also in my series on the book of Mark, I talked a lot about devils and people who were possessed and stuff like that. Hey, thanks for the call. God bless you. God bless you, brother. Hey, let me just mention one thing, too. It seems like the phone's working now because a whole bunch of calls are coming in. But I'll just mention another thing. If you're looking for sermons on certain topics, go to the website, faithforwardbaptist.org, click on Preaching. There's a real nice search function at the top where you can search whatever topic. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hello. Hello. Hello. Yeah, how you doing? What's your question? Hi, this is Joe. I'd just like to ask if you're familiar with Dr. Kent Oven's timeline of end times. Yes, I am familiar with Dr. Kent Oven's timeline of end times. I believe that he's in error on several points. But the good news is that he does believe in post-tribulation pre-wrath rapture. But his timeline is derived from Dr. Roland Rasmussen's book, The Post-Tribulation Pre-wrath Rapture. When he first discovered that the pre-trib rapture was a lie, the first book he read about it was Dr. Roland Rasmussen's book. So he basically took on Rasmussen's timeline, and that's the timeline that he pretty much believes. And, you know, Dr. Rasmussen is a very smart man, and he actually won my parents to the Lord back in the 1960s when they were little kids. You know, my dad got saved when he was 10 years old, and I think my mom got saved around the same age. And so he was instrumental in their lives, and he's a great guy. But, you know, I don't believe that his timeline is exactly correct. But, you know, it is post-trib pre-wrath, which is great. But, you know, for the correct timeline, listen to my preaching. Because if I thought that his preaching was correct, that's the way I'd be preaching it, right? So obviously the way that I lay it out is what I believe. I've actually asked him if he's willing to debate you about the differences, because I can see that there are three major differences in the timelines. So will you be willing to debate him? No, because number one, I don't like doing debates. Number one, I've never done any debates. I'm not really interested in debating people, number one. Number two, because, you know, the Bible, I don't think, teaches that that's an effective ministry for me. But number one. But number two, you know, if I were into debates, I wouldn't debate someone whose view is almost the same. I mean, to me, if somebody's post-trib pre-wrath, that's close enough for me. I'm not really worried about just convincing them to see it exactly the way that I see it. You know, I mean, as long as they're not into the pre-trib rapture, you know, then I'm not really that worried about it, because at least they're going to be prepared. That something's coming. So, you know, I don't think that that's just really important that I correct, you know, Rasmussen or Hoeven or anybody else on that. Right. One more quick question. I learned that I should let the Bible be its own dictionary, but I'm actually struggling to find the meaning of the word appear, like when the Bible says that the Lord appeared unto Abraham. Uh-huh. The word appear. Yeah, you know, I would just, I would take the word appear for just, you know, what we would just think that it means in our common vernacular that, you know, that the Lord appeared unto Abraham and that he actually saw him. I don't believe that anybody has ever seen God the Father and lived, but I believe that the Lord appeared unto Abraham in bodily form, in the form of Jesus Christ, and I've done sermons on that. Get my sermon on Old Testament appearances of Jesus, and I cover that. If you go to the church website and click on preaching, and in the search tab, just type in, you know, appear, the word appear, and the sermon will pop right up of Old Testament appearances of Jesus, and I'll explain biblically why I believe that, because, you know, when the Lord appeared to Abraham, for example, in Genesis chapter 18, he actually ate with Abraham. So, I mean, there you go. I mean, that's a bodily appearance, and I believe that's Jesus in the Old Testament. Great, well, thanks a lot. Yep, God bless you. My bad. All right, sorry about that. Now the sound's working. But I figured out what was going on with the phone earlier. I couldn't believe that nobody was calling. It was just that the phone company was panicking because so many calls were coming in that they disabled my service, so Brother Paul was able to get it fired back up again, so let's take another call. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. I'm here right now. Yep, you're talking to me, and you're live to the world here. All right, right now I just got saved, so right now I'm going to, you know, of course I have to, you know, start doing Bible reading every day. Right. So do you know of any books in the Bible that actually start reading, you know, as a new believer? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I would strongly suggest that you read the New Testament first before the Old Testament, just because it's the most relevant teaching to where we're at right now, and it's easier to read, so I would suggest starting in the book of John, you know, read the whole book of John, and then read the book of Acts, and then read the book of Romans, and then go back, and after you read those three books, then I would suggest just, you know, reading the whole rest of the New Testament in whatever order. But I think that's a great place to start is the book of John, because it's a simple book, so it's a great place to start. Okay, I just have another quick question. You know, there is this, you know, somewhere in the Gospel of John, I don't know, like where it talks about Jesus is talking to this person, Nicodemus. Right. And, you know, Jesus says, oh, you have to be born of water in order to be, you know, if you want to see the kingdom of heaven, something like that. What does that mean? Yeah, he says that except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, then he cannot see the kingdom of God. But then he actually defines it in the very next verse, because he says that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. So the water birth is the flesh birth, okay? So if you think about it, when you were born the first time, your mother's water broke. So you were born in water. So when you're born of water, it's just being physically born into the world. So everybody's already done that. They just need to be born again now. But they've already got that first water birth done. Okay, thank you, because I thought I meant to be that type of thing. Yeah, it's definitely not bad. I mean, that's what a Roman Catholic would try to twist it to mean. But it's real clear if you let the Bible define itself, because he says, you know, be born of water and of the Spirit, and then he says that which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. So the water birth is the flesh birth. Great question. Thanks for the call. Have a good one. Great. All right. Who's next here? Is the phone still ringing? Yeah, here it is. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hello, Pastor Anderson? Yes. Hey, it's a pleasure to be able to talk to you finally. I've been listening to you for about two years. Well, great. Glad to hear from you. Yeah, not too many people that are my age that I actually look up to. He's just one of my heroes. So, you know, thanks for that. I very much appreciate it. Well, I appreciate you saying that. Thanks. And quick question for you. I don't know how biblical this is, but it seems like the more into Christianity I get into, the more I look into these doctrines right throughout the Bible, it seems like the harder it is for me to exist in this world. It seems like almost once I want to say that it makes me weaker in the world. You know, being that I no longer fear death, I've lost a lot of my anger, my ego, and, you know, what is the Bible? Is that normal? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you're not really going to have great success and power in this world system, you know, as a believer. So, you know, what you said about, hey, I've become weaker in this world, you know. Paul said when I'm weak, then am I strong, you know, because of the fact that, you know, it's not by our might or power, but by God's Spirit that we're going to, you know, see great victories. But, you know, when you see people succeeding in this world and becoming filthy rich, becoming, you know, a successful politician, becoming the President of the United States, becoming other great, you know, leaders and things, you know, a lot of these people are ungodly and wicked people. And, you know, if you serve Jesus Christ with your life, you shouldn't expect to thrive in this ungodly system, but rather the Bible says, yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. It says in Philippians 1, unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but to suffer for his sake. And Jesus took on the form of a servant. He was made of no reputation. And, you know, we're following in his footsteps. Yeah, I can, you know, I can definitely feel that, you know, and I can certainly see how the strongest, I mean, I absolutely believe all the teachings that I've read on my own, that I, you know, especially from your sermons, I think I've probably listened to every sermon you've done in the last two years. And it just seems like the more that I progress and stuff, it's the harder and harder it is to, you know, to remain, you know, faithful and strong, even though I can feel the Holy Spirit and I can feel that he's carrying me, the Lord's carrying me through all this stuff. But it's certainly, you know, it's very difficult for me to, you know, to keep going and, you know, I'm certainly going to keep on pressing and I definitely would never, you know, wish to rescind my, you know, my salvation or nothing. But I just kind of wanted to see if that was something normal that I was feeling or not. Yeah, it is normal. And, you know, if it were easy, everybody would be doing it, right? I mean, the fact that there are few people who are really serving God effectively is testament to the fact that it's not easy. So that's why people don't do it, because they only want that which is easy. Hey, thanks for the call. God bless you. All right. Thanks, Pastor. It's a pleasure to be able to finally speak to you. Yep, likewise. And I'm actually going to Verity Baptist Church. So Roger ended up my new church up there. Oh, cool. What was your name again? Tanner Schultz. Oh, okay. Great. All right. Well, God bless you. Good to hear from you. All right. Thanks, Pastor. God bless you. And I honestly believe you'll be one of the guys sitting on one of those 24 seats. Well, you know, I appreciate you saying that. It's a long shot, but it'd be pretty cool. I don't think I'll be there, but it's definitely a goal of mine. God willing. God willing, brother. You have a good day. All right. You too. Bye. All right. Again, the phones are up and working again. The phone number is 480-465-1203. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. Hey, Pastor Anderson. My name is Rob Petry, and I'm actually I just turned my volume down on my computer. It's great to talk to you. My father, my dad, is down here. He's the one who introduced me to your DVDs and showed me some DVDs of yours. And I had a couple of questions for you. As a child, I was raised in a church, Pentecostal, and I stopped going to church for a long time. And I'm in the Army. I've been in the Army for 11 years. And what I wanted to ask you about was a couple of things. And these might be common questions to some people watching this show, but for the children across the world who have never been preached the word of Jesus Christ, or even if they've heard of them, but they're raised maybe Muslim, and maybe they're good people their whole lives, are they allowed into heaven? I mean, what happens with that? Well, here's the thing. I do strongly believe that all babies and children up to a certain age go to heaven. They get a pass because they're not held accountable. I've done sermons where I went into that. There are scriptures that I could point to about the fact that a baby who dies would go to heaven. For example, like the apostle Paul said in Romans 7, I was alive without the law once, but then the commandment came and sin revived and I died. So it appears that a person is born in this world spiritually alive, but then when they begin to sin willfully, understanding what that even means, then at that point they die spiritually and become accountable before God, and then they must be saved in order to go to heaven. So a little baby dies and whatever the country, it's going to heaven. I don't have any doubt about that. There's scriptures in Job. There's of course the famous scripture where David's baby dies and he says, the child's not going to come back to me, but I shall go to the child. The Bible talks about the untimely birth or the miscarriage, how they go to a land where the servant is free from his master. They go to a wonderful place, talking about them going to heaven in Job 3 and elsewhere. But when it comes to people who get older than that, to the point where they do understand what they're doing and they are committing sin willfully, like for example, you know, I like to use the illustration of Adam and Eve before they had the knowledge of good and evil. They didn't realize they were naked and kids don't realize they're naked either because, you know, you'll see little kids running around naked and you're like, whoa, you got to put some clothes on. You know, I have eight kids, so I've seen plenty of little toddlers run around naked and, you know, you look at that and say, well, there's one that's not to the age of accountability yet. You know, there's still an innocence. But then they come to a point where they start covering up and realizing, oh, man, I'm naked. And that's a pretty good indicator that they're starting to understand, you know, good and evil. So what I would say is that, you know, anybody who is past that age and they understand what's going on must be saved. And if not, they're going to go to hell. And to sit there and say, well, you know, they're good people. Well, the Bible says, you know, there's none righteous, no, not one. There's none that do with good, no, not one. So everyone is a sinner. Everyone deserves to go to hell once they begin to commit sin in their lives. And so people that are raised Muslim, they've definitely heard about Jesus because Islam teaches about Jesus. Of course, they teach lies about Jesus, but they would still be aware of Jesus and aware of Christianity because even the Koran mentions Christianity and talks about Christians and things. So, you know, I believe that any person on this earth is without excuse. And that's why we've got to get the Gospel to the Muslims and the Hindus and everybody else. Okay, yes, and I understand your point, and I do believe that Jesus Christ is our one Lord and Savior and He is God in the flesh, that He came here and died for our sins. I believe all of that. I really do. But my other question to you when, okay, speaking to another point about the New World Order, which I also believe in these other videos that I've seen and DVDs that I've seen that my dad brought to my attention, and also I've seen other videos about it, but that so many things are coming out now that are so linked to the Bible when it comes to the mark of the beast, the mark on the right hand, the mark on the forehead, things that you've made videos about that I've seen, and also being that it would be a very quote-unquote convenient payment system to scan your hand at the grocery counter or anywhere else and make that, I mean, it's a very, very convenient thing, and it seems like something that is really not that far away. It seems like something that's very close. Now me being someone who's been in the Army, been in the military for the past 11 years, and now, you know, I have a family to support, and I need to make money for them, and I mean, I would like to do 20 years in the military, but if between now and 20 years comes and that thing comes out, I mean, I'm going to deny it, no doubt, but it just makes it very hard to me. So what I'm asking is, like, what is my place in God's eyes? What is my place when I'm serving people who I believe may be evil people, and I'm serving them in the Army, and I'm serving them to support my family, to feed my son and my wife, what should I do in the eyes of God to work for Him? Well, I mean, you know, I will say this. You know, it's not my place to judge you or tell you what to do or anything, but I will say this, that, you know, anybody who asks me whether or not they should go into the military, I always try to talk them out of it and tell them no, and obviously, you know, I believe that the United States has become a force for this New World Order globalist agenda, and it's become a force for evil in the world, frankly. So I do not believe that the... I agree with you on that, but I joined before I knew all this. I joined this in 2004, and I'm here now. Well, again, I mean, that's between you and the Lord. I mean, that's up to you. I mean, what you end up doing with that. I'm just telling you that, you know, I'm not judging you, because, you know, that's between you and the Lord. All I can say is that, you know, I wouldn't be in the military. I have no desire to. I counsel everyone against it. If anybody says, you know, hey, I'm thinking, should I leave? Should I stay? I tell them to leave, you know, but you got to do what you got to do. All right. Yeah, I'm trying to find the right path for myself and my family in the eyes of the Lord. I'm trying to find my right path. I do believe in the things that you preach, and I'm watching the things that you preach, and I agree with you on everything. I just am trying to find the right thing to do for my family, and I don't know how I can provide for my family without continuing to stay in the military. Well, I'm sure. I mean, there's got to be other jobs out there, and I'm sure you probably received some training in the military, and that usually I think looks good on your resume that you were in the military and that you learned X, Y, and Z skills. So, you know, that could be just something that you need to work on, figuring out what trade you want to go into or what career you'd like to go into, because it sounds to me like your conscience is bothering you to be there. So in that case, you know, then you need to get out if you're being convicted about it. I mean, you know, it's pretty clear to me, and I told you where I stand on it. You know, I'm against it, so. All right. I appreciate it. Yep. God bless you, my friend. Have a good one. Thank you. Hello. This is Pastor Anderson. Hi, Pastor. How are you doing? It's Mike from Philly. I actually got saved by watching your soul-winning sample on YouTube. Oh, great. Excellent. I had two quick questions. One is, I saw your sermon on false teachers, false prophets. Right. Are all false prophets in all the categories you gave, are they all reprobates? Well, you know, that's a great question. And I would say this, that the answer is in the categories that I gave, yes, they're reprobates, because those particular guys were describing false prophets that are reprobates. But I will say this, though. There are some people who ignorantly teach a false gospel or ignorantly teach lies that could still be saved. The false prophets are the ones who willfully lie about it. A perfect example is the Apostle Paul. The Apostle Paul is a guy who was against Christianity. He's teaching lies. He's misinterpreting the Old Testament. But the Bible says that Christ Jesus came to this world to save sinners. He said, Of whom I am chief. But then he says, Howbeit for this cause I obtain mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show forth all longsuffering for a pattern of them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. And he says that Christ Jesus our Lord hath enabled me in chapter 1 of 1 Timothy, putting me into the ministry who was before a blasphemer and a persecutor and injurious, but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly and unbelief. So notice that. He says, I was a blasphemer, I was a persecutor, I was injurious, but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly and unbelief. So people who are not doing it ignorantly may not receive mercy. So my point is this. I have rarely met people who used to be teachers of a false gospel, ministers in a church, Sunday school teachers. There's a guy in our church that used to teach Sunday school at the Lutheran church. There's a guy that was a Pentecostal youth pastor and he's teaching works-based salvation. But honestly, he had never heard the real gospel. He'd never heard eternal security really taught. And when he heard it, he got saved. So that's an example of a guy who's a false teacher who still could be saved, because he's doing it ignorantly and unbelief. Whereas I think the majority of false teachers out there have heard the true gospel and chosen a false path. Okay, gotcha. Does that make sense? You know it makes perfect sense, thank you. Just a quick follow-up question. I heard you on sermons too. Like you talk about, you know, when you quote Proverbs, I think if I get it wrong, correct me. This is God hateth the man who loveth violence. Right, Psalm chapter 11 verse 5. Right, and you talk about like people like Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, these gentlemen now with the evil people that killed people and how you stated in sermons that these people are reprobate, which I agree with. That, you know, they love violence and, you know, they do these things like serial killers or reprobate, I believe you said that before and I agree with you. But with that argument, well not that argument, but with that belief in mind, the apostle Paul, who of course is one of the greatest Christians, you know, in the Bible, would that not apply to him? And I know when you talk about violence, it's not like, you know, I heard you say in a sermon we think of a boxing match of violence, but of course that's not, you're talking about violating people. Sure. So with the apostle Paul who was murdering Christians, you know, like you said, he did it ignorantly. Exactly, that's the answer right there. He obtained mercy because he did it ignorantly in unbelief. So here's the thing, a serial killer who's just randomly killing people, you know, is probably just a total, that's different than an apostle Paul who thinks he's doing God's service. You know, Jesus said in John 16, the time will come when he that killeth you shall think that he do with God's service. So that's not a guy who hates God. It's not that the apostle Paul hated God. It's that he was just mixed up. He thought he was serving God, but he was wrong. And then once he was corrected, then he got it right. You know, he was ignorant, so. Okay, okay, interesting thought there. Yeah, good, those are both great questions. Thank you for the call. God bless you. Thank you for your question. All right, again, we've only got about, what, 25 minutes left. Let's take another call. Hello, this is Pastor Anderson. All right, it was a hang-up here. Let me do a couple of quick internet questions here from the Facebook group that had come in before this session. There was a question from Amy Sperry. She said, I actually have a sermon called Marriage Problems in the Bible, so if you go to the sermon page on faithfulwordbaptist.org, and just in that search bar, just type in marriage, all the marriage sermons will come up, and one of them is called Marriage Problems. And I actually show, you know, ugly marriages in the Bible. And if you go to the search bar, you'll see the first three words that are in the Bible that I wrote for you. And the second one is, You know ugly marriages in the Bible and really all of those sermons on marriage I'll probably touch on it because the reality is that You know, I think every husband and wife fight from time to time I mean, you know, there could be exceptions that I heard somebody say my parents never fought Well, you know you're the you're the rare exception because most married couples are gonna have strife and fighting and Everybody has issues with sin from time to time. So that's pretty common So I you know, I always tell people don't be discouraged don't don't just quit on your marriage You're like, oh, it's horrible. Well, you know other people are dealing with a lot of the same issues that you think are so horrible So, you know, I would point that out and try to encourage people that they're not alone in their marriage problems and then also Question from Luis Mendez Do I have a sermon on gluttony? Well, there's a sermon called your body is the temple and Also a sermon called denying self where I have a whole section on gluttony in both of those Let's go ahead and take another call a lot of calls that I've missed here while I did that Mm-hmm. Hello, this pastor Anderson. Oh Steve yes How are you? Good Good, Steve. I like to uh first I'll tell you I very blessed to have you streaming your Everything you do on the internet Well, thank you. I'm glad that it's a blessing to you It really is. It's really helped me grow my faith and I like to share that with my friends Who are most of them are non-believers? Great do you have a question tonight? Yes, Steve a couple questions. What's your thoughts on? Brian Moonan Unfortunately, I don't know who that is. So I don't have any thoughts on him. What's the other question? Well, he knows you each kind of doing the same kind of idea as you Just search them on YouTube. Okay, is that was that was that starting with an M as in Mary your N as in Nancy Amazon Mike Okay, so Brian Moonan Moonan. Yeah. All right. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Sorry Okay Just knew out there Next person is Steve Womack. What's your thoughts on him? I Have no idea who that is, man. I guess I've just been living under a rock here because I don't know who these people are I Still don't know that I don't know any Womack's I think there's a country singer something Womack, but Thing about it, sorry That's all right. There's been a few people talking to me and bring them up He's got some interesting ideas on Healing through prayer if you're Not faithful enough you if you're if you're sick or ill you can pray yourself better Well, you know, that's it's definitely possible that you could pray yourself better But you know, that's not always gonna be the way it works So, I mean, you know, there are people like job that were sick for whatever the reason I don't really know what these guys are teaching. So I can't really comment on it I mean obviously praying to get well is scriptural, but I don't I don't know exactly what they're teaching So I don't want to I don't want to comment on something. I know nothing about what they're saying So hey, god bless you. Have a good one All right. Let's see here You got lots of calls coming in Hello this pastor Anderson Yes Hey, how you doing? My name is Aaron. Um Just like to say I had an honor going on the Washington DC marathon So I want a marathon with you. That was a great blessing and just everything you do I just want to really thank you for the bottom of my heart You helped me grow my faith and you help me grow my Christian life My question I have for you is the Geneva Bible versus the King James Bible. Yes there What what is basically I don't know much about the Geneva Bible other than on your documentary You made about the New World Order Bibles I kind of got a little little bit of insight on that and I've been doing a little bit of research on it and um it seems to be older than the King James and It seems I never read it. I'm King James only but just what are your thoughts on the Geneva Bible? Sure Yeah, I'll give you my thoughts. In fact, I just pulled it off the shelf here So I've got it in hand and I will say this the the Geneva Bible is one of the Bibles that led up to the King James Bible and It is based on the Texas Receptus So it's not just this, you know terrible perversion of the Bible like the NIV or something You know, it actually lines up with the King James Bible the vast majority of the time But I will say this out of all the Bibles that led up to the King James. This is this is the one that's the the worst translation like the bishops Bible is better than the Geneva Bible the Matthew Bible the Tyndale Bible are all much better than the Geneva Bible and the Geneva Bible was done in Geneva by You know a few guys over there but but here let me just point out some things because I've been reading the Geneva New Testament and just kind of marking up some things That I noticed that are that are wrong with it It's definitely inferior to the King James and you know, the King James replaced all the versions before There's a reason why the King why the Geneva Bible was out of print for hundreds of years and why you know It's only just now kind of starting to make a comeback because people like Kirk Cameron or whoever are trying to say Oh, the Geneva Bible is better than the King James. All right, you know it the King James is You don't need anything else, but let me just point out some things that I noticed First of all in Matthew, I just started reading in Matthew So I marked some things up in Matthew chapter 1 verse 11 It says and Josiah begat Jacob and Jacob begat Jeconias and his brethren Well in the King James it says, you know Josiah begat Jeconias and his brethren. So this guy is just added to the genealogy in Matthew 1 11 Jacob which by that they mean Jehoiakim, but that's they basically added a name to the genealogy in Matthew chapter 1 to my knowledge. This is the only Bible on the planet that adds that name I don't know what they were thinking when they added that name and it can't even just be a Typo because in the footnotes they talk about Who that Jacob is and that it's Jehoiakim then, you know in my hand right here I have a copy of the Greek Texas Receptus Greek New Testament. This is the edition that That basically represents the Greek underlying the King James Version and you know, that name is not in the original Greek New Testament I don't know where they got that from. That's kind of weird. But okay, you know, not too big of a deal, but Another weird thing is that there's a footnote under Matthew 1 25 because the Geneva Bible has a lot of notes in it Which is one of the things that King James didn't like he said no no doctrinal notes in the King James Bible Because he said, you know, he didn't want those biases being put in there. But in the Geneva Bible, there's a note basically Teaching that Mary remained a virgin after she had Jesus like that She didn't have any other kids which is like a Roman Catholic doctrine I'm not sure why they're teaching that in this but that's taught in the notes under Matthew 125 then in Matthew chapter 2 it changes the young child to babe and Obviously, he's two years old at that point that it's referring to him as a young child So it's kind of weird to call him a babe or a baby when he's two years old because he's no longer You know a baby at that point and then also those aren't that's not a big deal But here's here's one that's kind of a big deal in Matthew 2 23 It says that it was fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets which was that he shall be called a Nazarite Well, the King James says he shall be called a Nazarene meaning someone from Nazareth Whereas the Geneva is saying he's a Nazarite which doesn't make sense because he drank wine. He touched a dead body yada yada yada Also In Matthew chapter 3 it says in verse 8 bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance in the King James in the Geneva it says bring forth therefore fruit were the amendment of life and Then in verse 11, it says I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance in the KJV in the Geneva It says indeed I baptize you with water to amendment of life Okay, so like they're changing repent and then listen to this Matthew chapter 4 verse 17 from that time Jesus began to preach and to say repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand That's what the King James says the Geneva says from that time. Jesus began to preach and to say amend your lives For the kingdom of heaven is at hand which is weird because in the parallel passage in mark 115 It used the word, you know repent and believe the gospel so sometimes they say repent and sometimes they say amend your lives and I could see how that could really You know be twisted into a false doctrine like that. You have to amend your life or something to yeah Really? What is it made or something? So anyway, that's just you know, I'm not gonna sit here and go on and on But I do have the Geneva Bible. This is the 1599 edition I've gone through and and marked up things that I noticed, you know that don't jive But there you know, there's a lot of great verses in the Geneva Bible that are right on I mean there's whole chapters that are right on but it definitely has issues. So saying hey, let's switch to the Geneva Bible It doesn't make any sense and you'd be better off switching to the bishops Bible or the Tyndale Bible or the Matthew Bible The Geneva Bible is the worst of all the translations that led to the King James But I'll say this the Geneva Bible way better than the junk that they're putting out now the New American Standard and the NIV and stuff Yeah All right. Well, thank you for my question. Yeah, no problem. God bless you Have a good one All right, we got 15 minutes left the calls are still pouring in We're for two hours and 45 minutes into this thing Hello's pastor Anderson Hi pastor Anderson. This is Christina Anderson from Minnesota. How are you doing? Hi. Yeah, great. I remember I've Communicated with you before. Yeah, I'm just so grateful You know, I do have a question, but I just want to express my appreciation and gratefulness my children and I we've just been so blessed for the last nine years of finding you on YouTube and listening to you and I use your sermons as a as a what I feel as a Ahead of our home my husband He struggled to to he backslides and so I married a police officer and it's tough but I feel like your sermons have really girded my children and and they love you too. So Anyway, I appreciate it. It's it's you really must go back to the real early days if it's paid if you've been listening for nine years Okay, we're gonna run for ten. I have and the funny thing is I remember when I became your Facebook friend You had about 200 friends. Oh wow, and but I but you know, it just it's just a testimony of actually all the people that are Their eyes are being awoken and and I'm just I don't know I can't even express how grateful I am even for your wife, too She's been a blessing to me through the years for certain questions and stuff And I really actually don't have a question for you I do have one but I just I've I've learned so much in the last nine years that you've answered everything for me But I appreciate what yeah the one question my kids have had for me and I really don't know and maybe you've answered in sermon That that I just haven't heard Samson you know the Lord told him not to cut his hair and my kids will ask me like Well, it's sin for a man to have long hair How come God commanded Samson to not cut his hair and I'm I'm like, I don't know but I know that you know There's there's an answer, you know, there is something so what do you have? You know what? I would love to answer that question except for the fact that that was like the first question that was asked on this call in Okay, so whenever we're done and whenever we're done in like 13 minutes if you start at the beginning It's gonna come right up at the beginning Alright, and I'm grateful cuz like I said, I don't have any questions you and your wife have been such a blessing to me You've girded me and you've spoken so much truth that I've been we've all we've been blessed her. So thank you so much Yeah, thank you. Love your wife. All right. Thank you. God bless you. Bye. Bye All right So we've only got 12 minutes left keep on calling this is your last chance here actually, I'm sure we'll I think we'll do this again any way of having the call in because I You know if one person calls in with a question a lot of times there are a lot of people out there that have the same Question so it's good to just answer it and then everybody can can hear the answer one time Hello, this is Pastor Anderson Hi Pastor Anderson, yes This is Elliot from San Diego. Let me pause. Let me mute my video real quick here. How's it going Elliot? Good. How are you doing? Great Great. Okay. So I had a question for you about Hebrews chapter 3 There's a couple verses in here verse 6 and verse 14 specifically now I'm not a Calvinist and you definitely don't believe you can lose your salvation but these these verses are kind of I kind of hung up on them a little bit and I was wondering if you could sort of share Your understanding of them. Yeah, I've definitely had these verses brought up to me because you know people will will sometimes go to these to say that you can lose your salvation or people will look at these and Not understand them, but it says for example for every house is I'll read it in context before we talk about it Verse number four for every house is builded by some man but he that built all things is God and Moses verily was faithful in all his house as a Servant for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after but Christ as a son over his own house Whose house are we if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end? And then he talks about wherefore is the Holy Ghost saith harden out your hearts isn't the provocation This and that and then in verse Twelve it says take heed brethren lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief and departing from the living God But exhort one another daily while it is called today lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin for we are made partakers of Christ if We hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end while it is said today if you will hear his voice harden out your hearts is in the provocation so You know the first thing I would point to is that in in verse number six Says, but Christ as a son over his own house You know, what is that house the house of God or the house of Christ would be the local church in that sense, right? I mean that's God's house So he says whose house are we if we hold fast the confidence of rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end So this could be a reference instead of to somebody losing their salvation to just somebody You know getting out of church in that sense You know what I mean and and just Failing to serve God because it's talking about Christ's house and then in verse number 14 where it says for we were made Partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence Steadfast unto the end while it is said today if you will hear his voice harden out your hearts So again this idea of being a partaker of Christ, you know that could have something to do with you know Partaking a fellowship with Christ in the local church or partaking of you know, the Lord's Supper with other believers or whatever You know, I don't think that this is just a clear Well, you know these people are losing their salvation or something because and since we have hundreds of scriptures that teach that you can't lose Your salvation, you know I wouldn't just like contradict all that with these two verses because these could just be referring to having fellowship with Christ Being in the house of Christ being in the house of God as opposed to you know The children of Israel who were following Moses, but then they they provoked God and they died in the wilderness I mean think about it the ones who provoked God because let's get the context here He gives this illustration of them that tempted him in the wilderness for 40 years, right? Well, he says in verse 11, which is between the two verses you're asking about Okay, it's between verse 6 and verse 14 in verse 11 he says so I swear in my wrath They shall not enter into my rest. Well, who did he swear would not enter in? Well, if you think about it, it was every person that was 20 years or older Except Joshua and Caleb, right? Right. So let me ask you this were all those people unsaved No, there's no way that all those people went to hell everybody in that whole generation went to hell except Joshua and Caleb Absolutely not. But what did they miss out on they missed out on being in God's will being in the presence of God? Etc being in the Promised Land So, you know it makes sense that the New Testament illustration would be the same thing of not getting to partake you know being apart not being a partaker of Christ not dwelling in the house of Christ is Similar to them missing out on the Promised Land. So it's not a losing of your salvation going to hell It's just a losing out on blessings fellowship being in church, etc. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. That's extremely helpful. Okay. Well, I'm glad it was helpful God bless you. Great question. Well, thank you. God bless you too. Thanks for all your hard work. Yeah. Bye. Bye Yeah, it's just you know You always got to go with the real clear scriptures and there's plenty of clear scripture that you can't lose your salvation that we have Eternal life and and that salvation is all by faith not of our works Hello, it's Pastor Anderson Hey, I just had a quick question for you Or actually I just wanted to hear your thoughts about animals and pets how there's you know some people that go to the extreme of You know, they'll love their pets more than people right and then there's other people There's other people that will you know use and abuse pets and just be cruel and so I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on where's the line as far as You know how much you can kind of love a pet and maybe treat it as a child without crossing the line Well, you know, this is a this is a good question This is a question though whenever I talk about this it seems to make people really mad because of the fact that there are a lot of people that are really over the top about how they feel about their pets and So whenever I give my views on this they usually get real upset because you know, I I personally am one that you know I find it disturbing when people are you know sending greeting cards to their pet receiving greeting cards from their pet and Just you know Calling them children and babies and and you know, you know and look if people love their pets But I'm not against that and you know what? I had dogs growing up and I love my dog and I treated it real well You know at this point in my life at age 34 with with a wife and eight kids and a ninth kid on the way You know, I'm not into pets, you know, and after you know, how many years of soul winning now? 17 years of door-to-door soul winning virtually every week you you like dogs less and less the more you go soul what just because you see so many dogs and They they try to bite you and they're barking and you're trying to give people the gospel and they're barking and they're you know You I'm sorry But I've just I've grown to dislike dogs more and more The longer I go soul winning and every mention of dogs in the Bible is negative All right, but you know all the dog lovers are real mad right now and hate me for saying that but honestly You know to each his own if people love their dog fine, but you know when you're dressing it up and and yeah And and calling it your child, you know, I don't know where the line is, you know, you asked me. Where's the line? I don't know, but I know that a lot of people have crossed it Yeah, that's all I know and now real quick though real quick though. I'm like the same topic There's I just read recently. I think it's 2nd Samuel chapter 12 talks about this I know it's a parable but it's talking about a guy that that had a lamb He treated it as a daughter and then right the rich guy killed it and and I know it's comparing it to David and all But it's just interesting how he used that parable talking about a guy that treated the lamb as his daughter And then David said that the rich guy should be put to death basically It was it was just interesting and I understand your you know Your thoughts on the whole pet thing and and a lot of it. I agree to it I just what do you think about that story anyway as far as yeah Yeah, this this definitely isn't the first time that story has been brought to my attention by all the animal lovers in this world But but here's the thing about parables, you know Just because people did stuff in a parable doesn't mean that it was right Even if it's the good guy in the parable because there are parables in the New Testament Where the guy who represents God is charging usury and reaping where he hasn't sowed and and and doing things You know, there's the parable where the unjust steward is praised For being dishonest, you know, there's the there's the parable of the the guy who drinks the old wine and he Says olds better, you know and then people turn around and say oh, yeah, you know alcoholic wines better the Bible says so So, you know, you can't just take stuff in a parable and just build a doctrine on it You know, the Bible says that God does not take care for oxen You know and that and that the animal cruelty laws quote unquote of The Old Testament were written all together for our sakes the Bible says not for the sake of the animals According to 1st Corinthians chapter 9 So again, you know it I don't want to just burn people because they they're real into their pets You know and and they want to if they you know If they want to sleep in bed with their dog and let their dog lick their mouth and all this stuff Whatever, you know, go ahead whatever But honestly, I'll tell you this though, you know, there's something wrong when when people are on some crusade for animal rights You know, what about all the other things that are what about all the people that are dying and going to hell? What about all the babies that are being aborted and you're worried about animal rights, you know I don't care about some three-legged dog That's homeless in the city of Phoenix because of they didn't spay and neuter or whatever, you know I'm more worried about the three thousand babies a day that are being aborted and I'm more worried about souls that are dropping into hell Every minute I don't have time for for animal rights because you know, the animals are all gonna perish and turn to dust You know, I mean, I don't know what else to say Yes. Yes. I agree as long as you're able to leave your animal at home and go to a wedding enough Then there you go. Yeah, are people like people will skip church. Well, I can't leave my dog alone. I can't go to church It's like whoa I've literally Yeah, I've said like do you know for sure you're going to heaven and they said oh I know for sure I'm going to heaven Because I've rescued animals like that's why I'm going to heaven So I mean, I can't even count how many times I've been given that answer not once probably like 20 times literally Hey, but thanks for the call. God bless you Thank you All right, so I'm done taking phone calls Sorry, if I didn't get to you, there's just so many calls coming in just missed call after missed call wall-to-wall calls And I'm glad I'm glad that so many people have taken an interest and in asking a question Great questions. I really enjoyed doing this and I'll definitely be doing it again Let me just in the last minute here. Just cover a few of the other questions from Facebook Somebody just mentioned on there that they'd like to see a sermon about eternal security in the Old Testament That is a great idea for a sermon. I know that in my old sermon that I did Like around eight or nine years ago I did a sermon called eternal security and It covers the Old Testament in that and it goes to Psalm 89 and other places to cover the subject of eternal security in the Old Testament But it definitely needs its own sermon going forward So I'll put that on the list along with the Gog and Magog sermon and everything else and then Silvano Petruso asks Silvana Petruso asks, what does the Bible say on wearing jewelry? And what is your view on wearing a small cross? Well, you know the Bible does make positive mention of jewelry in several places It also warns against like the real expensive jewelry and women adorning themselves with all this Costly apparel and gold silver and pearls that we should be dressed in modest or that ladies should be dressed in modest apparel Not this real expensive flashy stuff, but I there are positive mentions of jewelry on women in the Bible as well So I do not think that it is wrong for women to wear jewelry. I'm not against jewelry on women as far as What is your view on wearing a small cross? Well, you know again This would just be my view because I can't really point to a scripture that would say Do wear it or don't wear it. I Personally don't care for it, but that's just my preference. You know, I don't wear a cross My family doesn't wear a cross and they're not going to wear a cross But you know, I wouldn't condemn someone who wears a small cross I would probably condemn somebody who wears a giant cross like a like a flavor of slave type style cross You know gigantic cross around their neck because that seems like something of hey look at me everybody Look how spiritual I am but you know, am I against wearing a small cross? Like I said, I don't like it I don't care for it, but I'm not against it. I'm not gonna judge someone who chooses to wear that Anyway, thanks again to all those who called in and tuned in really enjoyed it God bless you all and I will see you hopefully on Sunday morning for the live stream of the morning service