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Hey everybody, Pastor Steven Anderson here from Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. I'm joined by my eldest son Solomon, and tonight we're going to be talking about the theory of relativity. Specifically, we're going to be talking about special relativity, Einstein's theory that was published in 1905. And this teaching of special relativity is one of the things that has been tested more than any other scientific theory. I mean, it's been around for 115 years. It's been tested and proven over and over again. But before we get into special relativity, we kind of have to catch you up with the relativity that was taught by Galileo in the 1600s. Okay. Now here's the thing. When we're talking about special relativity, obviously this is a complicated subject. It's a difficult subject, but our goal tonight is going to be to break this down to you and make it so simple that any layman can understand this, no problem. But you're going to have to pay attention. You're going to really have to be tuned in that this isn't going to be something that you can half listen to. And the points that we lay out in the beginning, they might seem pretty simple and obvious, but they're necessary to build up to the stuff we're going to get to with special relativity. Because otherwise, if we just jump right into special relativity, you might be tempted to just blow it off, not believe in it, reject it, even though it's been proven over and over again. So we want to kind of get you up to that point with a natural progression of ideas. Now listen, everything that we're going to talk about tonight is 1905 or earlier. So we're not bringing up any radical new theories, any wild new theories. This is very conservative science, again, only going up to 1905. So you ready? You ready to do this? Solomon? Yep. Alright, so the first point that we want to make as we teach you about this is number one, there's gonna be four major points and we're going to tie in the Bible with this too. But there are going to be four major points tonight. Point number one is that being in motion, or being at rest is relative. Okay. So this again, goes back to the 1600s Galileo, this is his, you know, relativity principle, if you will, that being in motion, or being at rest is relative. So basically, the statement all by itself, I'm moving, or I'm at rest, is actually a meaningless statement, unless there's some kind of a frame of reference, because those terms are relative, right? Okay, so like, for example, let's say I'm flying on an airplane at 600 miles an hour through the sky, right? But if I'm sitting in my chair on the airplane, I am at rest, right? I mean, I'm laying there, maybe I'm even asleep, right? I'm on the airplane, I am at rest, with respect to the plane. But with respect to the ground below, I'm actually moving at 600 miles an hour. So basically, you know, it depends on your frame of reference. So you know, I'm at rest in respect to the plane. But in respect to the earth, I'm moving at 600 miles an hour. What's another example? Say if you're in a car, for example, sitting in the car, you're not doing anything, you're not walking or anything you're you're in relation to the car, you're at rest. But in relation to the road, you're moving 60, 70, 80 miles an hour. Yeah. So basically, the key term that we want to use here is uniform motion, okay. So in order for this principle to apply, of saying that you're at rest, even when you're moving with respect to something else, you have to think about this idea of uniform motion. So what that means is that when you're on a plane, and the planes going 600 miles an hour, you and the plane and everyone else are in uniform motion, meaning you're steadily going straight ahead at 600 miles an hour. Okay. Now, here's the thing. If the plane speeds up, you're gonna feel that right? acceleration. Yeah, you're gonna feel acceleration. It What if the plane like just banks left and turns? Are you gonna feel that? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you're absolutely gonna feel that. When the plane starts to descend, you'll feel something in the pit of your stomach. So going up, you feel it going down, you feel it speed up, slow down, turn. But when you're in uniform motion, when you're just cruising, it doesn't matter if you're cruising at 400 miles an hour, 500 600, it's gonna feel the same on the plane. Now, are you gonna feel turbulence? Yeah, yeah. But it's no longer uniform. It's no longer uniform, because it's being interrupted by the turbulence. Okay. But look, you know, if there were no turbulence, if you were on a smooth ride, would it feel any different to go 1000 miles an hour versus 500 miles an hour? No, it's gonna be irrelevant. Yeah, because you're in uniform motion. So here's the thing. When I get up, and I walk down the aisle of the plane, and I'm going three miles an hour, right? Yeah. So I'm going three miles an hour with respect to the plane, the plane, but with respect to the ground, I'm actually going 603 miles an hour, right? The whole planes moving 600 when I'm at rest. I'm moving 600 miles per hour with respect to the earth when I start walking. Now it's 603. What if I walk from the cockpit to the back of the plane? 597 600 minus 597 miles an hour with respect to the earth. But with respect to but do I feel like whoa, I'm walking to 597 miles an hour? No, because of the fact that it's all relative to your frame of reference. Any location where you're in uniform motion is as good as being at rest. Right? So anything I can do on the ground at rest, I can do on the plane as long as it's in uniform motion. If I can do a handstand, I'm not going to be like, Whoa, so I'm having trouble balancing. It's like trying to surf on top of a plane that's going 600 miles an hour. If I'm in the plane, I could do if I could do a handstand on earth, I can do a handstand in the plane. Yeah. I'm not saying it's allowed, but I'm just saying like, you could do it theoretically, right? Yeah. Okay. Now, look, this might seem a little bit, you know, obvious to you at home. And we're going to belabor these early points a little bit and kind of run them into the ground. And that's because understanding these points are essential to points three and four. Okay, so you really got to get points when we got to catch up to the 1600s before we can catch you up to 1905. Okay, now, here's a great Bible verse First Chronicles, chapter 16, verse 30. So let's think about this verse, just in regard to what we're talking about right now, about how being in motion or being at rest is relative. So First Chronicles, chapter 16, verse 30 says, fear before him, all the earth, the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. Okay, so we see there from that Bible verse, that the earth is at rest, okay, in the sense that it's stable, it's not being moved out of its uniform motion. Okay. Now, a lot of people who believe in geocentricity, which is obviously ridiculous, since that has been thoroughly debunked over 400 years ago, they'll try to point to verses like that and say, see, look, the earth's not moving. And here's the thing, of course, the earth's not moving in respect to the earth. If your frame of reference is being on the earth, then the earth's not moving to you. And the reason that the earth's not moving is because the earth is stable. And what does it mean to be stable? Does stable mean that you're necessarily stationary or absolutely stationary? Well, there is no definition of absolutely stationary. It's all in reference to another object in uniform motion. Exactly. Exactly right. There's no such thing as being just stationary or moving because everything is moving and everything is stationary. It just depends on what your frame of reference is. Am I right? Yeah, it's all relative. It's all relative. Okay. So this is the 1600s, Galileo relativity. If you don't believe in this, basically, you're not even ready for the 1600s. You're not even ready for a King James yet. You have to go back in time. This is something that was figured out like 400 years ago, folks. So uniform motion. So the earth basically is stable, meaning that it is in uniform motion. That's why we feel like we're at rest. Just like when I'm on the plane, it's in uniform motion. So I feel like we're at rest. So here's the thing. Is the earth moving with respect to the sun? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's revolving around the sun. Is the earth moving in respect to the universe around it? It's rotating, right? It's rotating, it's revolving. But from the perspective of being on the earth, it doesn't feel like it's moving because it's in uniform motion. Just like when I'm on the plane, is the plane moving? Doesn't seem like it when you're on the plane in uniform motion. Just like it doesn't seem like the earth's moving when you're on the earth in uniform motion. So this is a pretty basic concept, pretty easy. But it leads me into my second point. So point number one is that being in motion or being at rest is meaningless because those terms are relative to something else. It's sort of like this. What if I told you, hey Solomon, I'm at 350 miles. You're like, where are you dad? I'm at 350 miles. What would be your question? Away from what? Yeah, 350 miles with respect to what? So just saying, I am at 350 miles is a meaningless statement because there's no reference point. I am at rest with respect to what? Look, I'm at rest could mean I'm laying in bed on the earth or it can mean I'm laying in bed in a first class flight to Hong Kong. Or it can mean I'm at rest in the back of a van driving down the freeway, sleeping in the back of the van. Am I right? Yeah. So those statements are meaningless unless you have a reference point. That leads us into point number two. Point number two is that any place in uniform motion is as good as the next as a reference point. So there's no one reference point that's better or the real reference point or superior any place in uniform motion is as good a point as the next as a reference point. And the laws of physics are going to work in any place in uniform motion. Okay. So again, you know, if I'm, let's say I'm dropping objects, you know, and I, and I have a five pound dumbbell and a two pound dumbbell and I drop them, you know, and, and what's going to happen? They're both fall to the ground at the same time. They're both going to fall to the ground at pretty much the same rate. Okay. Well, what if I get up on an airplane and decide I'm going to do this experiment on the plane? Is it going to be like, Whoa, this is different because you're going 600 miles an hour because the plane is just as much at rest as the earth. I mean, because it's in uniform motion. So if I drop those two things, they're going to drop the same way. Whatever physics experiments I can do on earth, I can do them in any place that's in uniform motion. Okay. So now let's do a little thought experiment. Okay. Let's say we go to the planet Venus. Okay. And obviously, you know, we don't have the technology to do this. This is far fetched, but just humor me. All right. We go to the planet Venus and you know, of course it's like 800 and some degrees Fahrenheit, but let's just pretend for a minute that we have built a compound on Venus that is totally resistant to the heat and inside, you know, the, the, the conditions of our atmosphere have been simulated. So, you know, they've pumped in the nitrogen and the oxygen of our atmosphere, and it's got the pressure that we would have in our atmosphere and it's climate controlled, right? So it's like a little compound where it's pressure controlled, climate controlled. We're on the planet Venus and this little compound that can handle the heat and everything, right? Got it. Yep. Okay. So on this compound on Venus, let's say we have a basketball court, right? Am I going to be able to play basketball on that basketball court or is basketball just not going to work? It'll work for sure. It's going to work, right? Because here's the thing, you know, Venus is, is roughly the same size as the earth. So gravity is going to be pretty similar. And so we should be able to play basketball. Now here's the thing. What about the fact that, you know, because the earth and Venus are orbiting the sun and they're in different places in the orbit, you know, Venus could be moving away from the earth pretty fast. You know, with respect to the earth, Venus could be moving away from the earth pretty fast or toward the earth a little bit. Is that going to have any bearing? No, it's irrelevant. If Venus is getting closer to the earth or farther from the earth, am I going to be like trying to play basketball? I mean, you get like sucked to the side of the basketball court because I'm getting pulled toward earth. No, cause earth isn't the reference point anymore. Cause I'm on Venus. Venus is the reference point. So basically I'm on Venus's rules. So on Venus, I can play basketball, no problem. And it doesn't matter what earth's doing because I'm on Venus now, right? Yeah. Does that make sense? So, so let's say, let's say I'm on that basketball court. All of a sudden the lights go out, the lights die. And it turns out in my pocket, I got a flashlight that I brought from earth. If I pull out the flashlight and turn it on, is it going to work? Yeah. Okay. Does it matter that I'm not on earth or is it going to work? No. Yeah. And light is going to come out of the flashlight. Right. So what speed is the light going to be moving when it comes out of the flashlight? The speed of light, which is about 186,000 miles a second. Right. So 186,000 miles per second, or another way of expressing that is one foot per nanosecond. A nanosecond is a billionth of a second. So light travels one foot per nanosecond or approximately 186,000 miles per second. So does it matter the speed of Venus? Do I have to calculate in the speed of Venus with the speed of earth to figure out how fast that light's going to go? Or is it just going to go at 186,000 miles a second? Just go at the speed of light. So it's going to go at the speed of light. This is also known as speed C. Okay, so we're going to use that term a little bit throughout this broadcast. Speed C, okay, is one foot per nanosecond speed of light. So it's going to go at speed C, right? Yeah. So let's take a little break for a second. So we understand uniform motion because Venus is in uniform motion, just like the earth is in uniform motion. The laws of physics are going to apply on Venus, just like they're going to apply on earth. They're going to apply on a plane. They're going to apply on the ground. They're going to apply on a car, as long as these things are in uniform motion. So if the car slams on the brakes, I'm going to be like, whoa, because no longer is the motion uniform. Okay, so let's take a quick break from talking about that. We're going to take a little rabbit trail, and we're going to come back. So we've laid down points one and two, we're going to take a little rabbit trail and talk about the fact that the universe is expanding, okay? So there are actually some Bible verses that we could point to about the expanding universe. Like for example, Job 26 verse seven is one of the verses that I would point to about the expanding universe. Let me go ahead and turn there here. Or if we can just throw it on the screen, then I can just read it off the screen. But Job chapter 26 verse seven says, he stretches out the north over the empty place and hangeth the earth upon nothing, okay? So the great thing about this verse, he stretches out the north over the empty place. Empty place would be another word for space, right? If I say, hey, this apartment has a lot of space. It's empty. Yeah, it has a lot of like empty space, empty places to put things. So basically, he stretches out the north over the empty place and hangs the earth on nothing. So again, even though this is a very ancient book of Job, it is scientifically correct about the fact that the earth is hanging on nothing and that he stretches out the north over the empty place. Another great verse on this is Isaiah chapter number 40 verse 22, if you want to throw that on the screen, Isaiah chapter 40 verse 22, it is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, again, showing that, you know, God always knew the earth was round, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers, that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. So we see here that they're being stretched out like a curtain, they're being spread out like a tent to dwell in. So again, this is pointing to the fact that the universe is expanding, the heavens are being stretched out, the heavens are being spread out, the universe is expanding. Now the way that scientists can measure this is that they can measure whether objects in the sky are moving toward them or away from them based on something called the Doppler effect, right? So you know, what if they look up and they look at the spectrum of light coming from a certain star and it's red shifted? What does that mean if it's red shifted? It's moving away from us. And if it's blue shifted? Moving towards us. Right. So the wavelengths are it's either skewed toward the red end or the blue end, and that tells us whether it's moving from or away. Well, I think there's a good way to explain this is that like, for example, a lot of people have trouble understanding this. But like if you've ever been walking down the sidewalk, and you hear like an ambulance drive by you with the sirens on, uh huh, when it's coming up behind you, it will sound higher pitched than when it's driving away from you as it passes you, the pitch will drop dramatically Okay, simulate what that sounds like. All right, I'll do it. It's like, it's like, doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo Yeah, with this in mind, if you're ever going on the sidewalk, you'll and you hear one going by, you'll actually notice this difference. And that's what the Doppler effect is, is because what's coming towards you, the waves are being compressed in front of it. And as it moves away, the waves are being stretched out behind it, making it sound deeper or higher pitched. Yeah. And obviously, the red waves are longer, the longer wavelengths, the blue waves are the shorter blue. Same idea. We might talk about that later. But anyway, so so the bottom line is that, you know, the universe expanding the data, you know, when when they measure the movement of stars and galaxies and everything, they've measured it and it shows that it's expanding. That idea is compatible with the Bible because of the fact that God talks about spreading it out or stretching it out. Okay. Now, here's the thing. They've actually measured certain distant galaxies that are moving away from us at just incredible speeds. Okay. So let's take, for example, a galaxy that's moving away from Earth at like, you know, let's say 80 percent of the speed of light. Now, you might be like, how can anything be moving that fast? But here's the thing. It doesn't feel like it's moving that fast when you're there. It's just with respect to the Earth. Yeah. They would think that we're moving away that fast. Yeah, right. Exactly. Now, here we've got an illustration for this. Do you have the picture of the raisin bread that you can put on the screen? So this is a really popular explanation of this that a lot of people have used. And so I found this image online and this is a pretty popular way to explain the way the universe is expanding. So if we have raisin bread, let's say we put raisin bread in the oven and we bake it. Okay. And it expands. Right. So the little clocks on the screen, you can see the top one is at two o'clock. The bottom one's at three o'clock. So you know, we put it in the oven at two o'clock and then an hour later it has baked and it has risen and it expanded. Okay. So in one hour it expanded. Now, at the beginning, if you look at the top image at the beginning of making the raisin bread, each raisin is one centimeter apart. Okay. But then after we bake it for an hour, each raisin is three centimeters apart, right? Because they all expanded evenly. The whole thing expanded uniformly. So it went from being one centimeter apart to three centimeters apart. Well, here's the thing about that. So if you see the raisin that's labeled local raisin, that let's say that that's where you're measuring from. We'll call that raisin zero. So if we're at raisin zero, raisin one started out being one centimeter away. Now it's three centimeters away. So how fast did that raisin move over the course of that hour? Three centimeters in one hour, three centimeters an hour. Check your calculation there. Oh, two centimeters. My bad. That's okay. So two centimeters an hour, because it was one centimeter away. Now it's three. Now it's three centimeters away. An hour went by. So basically it moved at two centimeters per hour, right? Okay, let's throw the raisin image back on the screen if we can. So the first raisin moved at two centimeters an hour. Now the second raisin started out being two centimeters away. Now it is six centimeters away. So how fast did the second raisin move? Four centimeters an hour. Four centimeters an hour. Okay, the third raisin started out three centimeters away. Now how far away is it? Nine. Nine centimeters, right? So how fast did it travel over that hour? Six centimeters an hour. Okay, so notice all of the raisins, from their perspective, they all feel like they're moving the same speed. Am I right? Yeah. I mean, if you're raisin number one, you don't feel like, well, I'm going way slower than raisin three. Because all the raisins are just moving at the exact same speed, you know, as far as just from the center or from the side. The pan. Well, no, because even the no, just only from their own perspective. Yeah, yeah, we got we got to make sure we get our minds relatively thinking here. So if you're at that raisin, let's put it that way. If you're at that raisin, you know, you're not moving at incredible speeds. You're not the raisin three doesn't feel like it's moving faster than any other raisin. Yeah. Because to them, it's all the other raisins that are moving. So but from raisin zeros perspective, raisin three is moving much faster than raisin one because raisin one's moving at two centimeters an hour, raisin three is moving at six centimeters an hour. So it seems like wow, these raisins are moving at different speeds, but really the whole thing is just expanding uniformly. So basically, that's the way the universe is. So if the universe is expanding uniformly, okay, then basically stars that are closer to us are not going to seem like they're moving away that fast. Whereas galaxies that are very distant, are going to seem to be moving at incredible speeds because they're going to be like raisin 5000 or raisin 5 million or something. You know what I mean? As you're getting farther away, the speed relative to us is different. And remember, what have we been talking about this whole time, speed, movement, it's all relative, it's all relative to a reference point. So from the reference point of Earth, some super distant galaxy could be moving away from us at a speed 80% of the speed of light. But if you were, let's say you were on a planet in that galaxy, are you just moving at some incredible speed? It's just so wild. No, to you, you're not moving at all. Yeah, because you're stable. You're in uniform motion. It's just like if you're if you're raising three, nothing weird is happening. Whereas if you're raising zero, boy, raisin three is moving pretty fast. So if you're, let's put our basketball court on a planet in that galaxy that's moving away from us at 80% of the speed of light. Am I going to be able to play basketball or am I just gonna be like, whoa, just thrown against the wall because we're just moving at this incredible speed with respect to Earth. They'll still be able to play because you're not measuring it against Earth. Because I'm measuring it from my system. Yeah. I'm in, as long as I'm in a system in uniform motion, I'm on some planet revolving around some star in some distant galaxy. I'm on that program. Just like if I'm on the airplane, I'm on the airplanes program from in the car in the cars program. Yeah. You want to add anything else to that or is that? No, that's pretty much it. All right. So so I feel like we've pretty much nailed those down. Let me just make sure we got everything on points one and two. OK, so hopefully you understand points one and two. Let's do a quick review. Number one, being in motion or being at rest is relative. The statement alone, I'm moving or I'm at rest is meaningless unless you have a reference point. Right. Yeah. OK. Point number two, any place in uniform motion is as good a reference point as the next. OK. It's not like, well, you think you're at rest on that plane, but you're really going six hundred miles. No, I actually really am at rest on that plane. It's no less valid. The reality on the plane is no less valid than the reality on the ground. Am I right? Yeah. And it'd be like, well, I know you feel like you're at rest, you know, when you're when you're driving on the car at 70 miles an hour. I know you feel like you're at rest when you're moving, you know, in, you know, moving around in the compound on Venus or whatever. But you're actually moving with respect to Earth that, well, it's like, no, because it's all relative to the reference point. OK, so is the sun is the sun stationary or is it moving in relation to the galaxy? It's moving. So it's so basically the sun being at rest or moving is what it's relative. It's relative. OK, so here's again, you get these geocentric types and what do they say? They say, like, well, the Bible says that the sun and moon stood still. It's like, OK, so what? And they're like, see, that shows that they're moving. What's funny is that a lot of geocentric people, they think that we're denying that the sun's moving or something. Do you think the sun's moving? Yeah. Is the sun at rest? No. It's at rest. Yeah, it's both. It's both because it's moving through the rest of the galaxy. It's moving. But in relation just to itself, it's in uniform motion. It's at rest. Yeah, because it's in it's in uniform motion. It's steady. So it's from its own reference point. It's at rest. But here's the thing. The sun actually is rotating, first of all. Different parts of the sun rotate at different rates because it's made out of gas. So I believe that parts of the sun are rotating at around, you know, once every 25 days. Other parts are rotating like once every 30 days. And also, it orbits around the center of gravity between it and Jupiter, because Jupiter has so much pull on it that it actually is pulled by Jupiter, and Jupiter and the sun actually both orbit a center of gravity that's just outside of the sun. But anyway, I don't want to go too deep into that. But the sun, of course, the sun's moving, even in our solar system, the sun's moving. It's rotating, it's moving with respect to the Milky Way galaxy, the sun's moving in incredible speeds. So you know, I have no problem with the Bible saying that the sun and moon stood still. Because what's the reference point when the Bible says the sun and moon stood still in Joshua 10? The earth. The earth. Is the earth a valid reference point for talking about movement? Oh, yeah, it's in uniform motion. The earth's in uniform motion. So is it valid to say the sun went up, the sun went down? Is that valid? Yeah, because from our perspective, it is moving, not us. Exactly. Because we're in uniform motion. But wouldn't it be equally valid to say that the earth is moving around the sun? Yeah, in that case, the sun is the reference point. In that case, the sun's the reference point. So anyway, you got to get this through your head that that movement or being at rest is relative. So those are the first two points. Okay, now let's move on to the third point. Okay. And this is where the rubber really meets the road. Okay. But it's really point four, that's really going to trip people out. But we have to build up to it. Okay, so I know that this might seem a little bit basic what we're doing so far. But we got to build up to the to the hard stuff. Okay. Point number three is this, the speed of light is independent of the speed of its source. Okay, the speed of light is independent of the speed of its source. And what that means is that if you measure the speed of light from any frame of reference in uniform motion, if you're in uniform motion, and you measure the speed of light, the speed of light is constant. It's always going to be what speed? About 186,000 miles an hour, one foot per nanosecond, 186,000 miles per second, one foot per nanosecond, okay, and we call that speed C, speed C. So basically, light is always traveling at speed C, if I measure it from the plane, speed C from the earth, speed C, it's constant, okay. And it has nothing to do with the speed of the source of that light. So let's say light is coming to us from that galaxy that's moving away from us at 80% the speed of light. Is that light going to come toward us at like, say, C minus 80% of the speed of light, so 20% C, or is it coming at a speed C? Speed C, all of it. So this galaxy is moving away from us at incredible speed, the light leaves that galaxy, it travels toward us at speed C. Does it matter how fast the galaxy is going? No. With respect to us. No. Does it matter how fast the moon's moving for the light to get to us? No. So here is the key, folks. Don't miss point three. This is critical, okay, that the speed of light is constant, okay, with respect to any observer in uniform motion. Okay, now let me explain to you why this is so significant, why this is so interesting, okay. So let's use an illustration about driving down the road in a car, okay, so we're driving down the road in the car, and we're going 60 miles an hour down the road, and you're driving, I'm in the passenger seat, right? We're going 60 miles an hour, and I've got a gun in my lap, okay, so the gun's sitting in my lap, the gun's got bullets in it. How fast is the gun going? Sixty miles an hour in relation to the ground or in relation to you not moving at all. It's at rest, right? So the gun sitting in my lap is at rest. With respect to the car. Yeah. But with respect to the earth, it's going 60 miles an hour, okay. So let's say I take the gun and I fire it out the front window, okay. Now let's say that I'm firing a gun that shoots the bullet at 700 miles an hour. So if I'm on earth and I pull the trigger of that gun, it's going to accelerate the bullet to 700 miles per hour, okay. Now here's the thing, before I pulled the trigger, the bullet was already moving with respect to the earth at 60. So if I'm already moving with the bullet in respect to the earth at 60 miles an hour, and I pull the trigger, the bullet is going to leave the car, because the bullet goes from being at rest in the car to leaving the car at 700 miles an hour. So if the bullet leaves the car at 700 miles an hour, the car's already going 60, how fast is the bullet going with respect to the earth? Seven hundred and sixty miles an hour. Seven hundred and sixty miles an hour. What about if I turn around and I shoot the bullet out the back window? How fast is the bullet going with respect to the earth? Now it's only going 630 miles an hour. Or six hundred and... Six hundred and forty. Seven hundred minus six. Seven hundred minus six hundred and forty. Yeah, six hundred, yeah. He got it wrong, because we were talking about this the other day, we were doing it with 70 miles an hour. We were doing it with 70, we went to 60. We got that, when we were practicing for this, we did it with 70. So I'm just trying to mess you up here. If I was driving, it would be at 70. All right, let's pretend that you're going to follow the speed limit, okay. I know this is a hard thought experiment, but you got to work with me here. You're like, well I'm going 90, so let's see the bullet. So basically, you know, if you're driving in a car at 60, the bullet was already going 60 with respect to the earth before you even pulled the trigger. Now the gun isn't like, oh, wait a minute, I'm in a car. I think I'm going to accelerate this bullet at only 640 instead. Or is it just going to, the bullet is coming out the gun at 700. Because here's the thing. The gun being at rest in the car is just as if it were rest on earth. So if I pull the trigger, it's going to leave at 700, plus the 60 that it was already traveling, right? Yeah. Everything making sense? Yeah. Okay, so now let's talk about the headlights on the car. This is where point three becomes so interesting, because point three said that the speed of light is constant as measured by any observer in uniform motion. Now as a guy standing by the side of the road, is he in uniform motion? Yeah, with the earth. With the earth, yeah. So if he's just standing by the side of the road, he's in uniform motion, the earth is moving, or the earth is stable, depending on how you want to look at it, and he's there stable. Okay, what about me sitting in the car? Am I in uniform motion? Yes. Am I at rest? Yep. Is the guy on earth at rest? With respect to the earth, I'm at rest with respect to the car. So now instead of shooting a bullet, let's turn on the headlights. So if we turn on the headlights, how fast is the light coming out the headlights? Speed C. Speed C. Now is it speed C plus 60 miles an hour? No. No, because this is what point three says, this is what we're postulating here, is that the speed of light is constant with respect to any observer in uniform motion. That means that if I'm in the car, the light is leaving me at speed C. Not speed C plus or minus anything. Now you say, well, yeah, the bullet left you at speed C too, or excuse me, not speed C. It's 700 miles an hour. The bullet left you at 700 too. Like it's supposed to. Like it's supposed to. But here's the wild thing, okay? To the guy who's standing by the side of the road, the bullet changed from 700 to, well, it started at 60, so now it's 760. The light doesn't. The light is not traveling at speed C plus 60 to the observer by the side of the road. Did I explain that right? Yeah, it's still just speed C. Okay, what if I fire light out of the rear taillights, okay? The light is leaving at what speed? Still just speed C. So if I'm in the car with respect to me, how fast is the light going? Speed C. How fast is it going if I'm flying overhead in an airplane and I look out the window and I look down at the light? You're in uniform motion, still speed C. So I'm in uniform motion in a plane, in the car, by the road, speed C. But here's the thing. So you see the difference between the bullet and the light? Yeah. It's different, isn't it? Yeah. Because the bullet, you have to add. You add its speed to the speed of the source in relation to the earth. Yeah. Whereas light, the speed of light from the perspective of any observer in uniform motion is independent of the speed of the source. The car is the source. Does its speed affect the speed of light? No. I'm standing by the side of the road, car's driving toward me. Does the speed of that car determine how fast the light's coming toward me? No. The light's coming toward me at? Speed C. Which is one foot per? Nanosecond. One foot per nanosecond. Okay. So basically this is the crux of point three. This is the key. Now you say, well, I don't know if I believe that the speed of light's constant. This has been one of the most tested and experimented things. When this was put out there in 1905, special relativity and this point was put out there that said that the speed of light is constant. This is something people have tested. It's been tested in a vacuum, right? Speed of light in a vacuum. Speed of light in a house, speed of light with a mouse, speed of light with a fox, speed of light in a box. Has this been tested like six ways to Sunday? Yeah. Many times. They'd want to test this and figure out more about it and just see if it's even true. People are into testing it. It's been tested for how long now? Almost over a hundred years now if you're counting from 1905. Yeah, 1905. It's 115 years. So for 115 years, this has been tested over and over and over again and proven to be true that the speed of light moving in a vacuum is 186,000 miles per second, one foot per nanosecond. Okay. So we understand that the speed of light is constant from any observer, unlike the bullet that we talked about. Okay. So now we were, okay, why did the lights go out? Was that like a dramatic effect? Because we're talking about, we're getting into the really difficult part of the broadcast. So we had a little bit of a lighting drop. Okay. Maybe I should get out a flashlight and start doing this like a ghost story because we're going to start getting into the creepy stuff now. All right. So I need the graphic of the airplane graphic. Paul, can he pull it up or do you have to go up there and pull it up? I just need the airplane graphic and that'll give you time to mess with the lights anyway. We'll keep this dramatic look. Yeah, this dramatic look works anyway, right? So I actually, you know, I went online searching for graphics to help explain special relativity and I couldn't really find any graphics that I liked. So I actually made my own graphic. So I just, I made this on Apple pages and you know, I would have drawn it, but I'm a terrible artist. I'm not brother Jimenez. So basically I put together this little graphic with just little clip arts and I think that this is going to help you at home understand special relativity. Okay. So what point are we on right now? The speed of light is the same. It's constant from the perspective of any observer in uniform motion. Okay. So let me explain this diagram to you. Okay. So at the starting time and we're going to, we're going to, we're just being simple here folks. So we're ignoring, you know, the altitude of the plane. We're, you know, we're ignoring all these things. Just think about the simple diagram in front of you. Okay. So at the starting time, I'm standing on the earth and there's an airplane coming toward me at 600 miles an hour and the airplane is a hundred feet away from me. Okay. So we're just using easy numbers. So the airplane's coming at me from a hundred feet away and this is the starting time. Okay. So you can see me, you see the airplane a hundred feet away and what those little markings in front of the plane are referring to is at that, at that moment, at that starting point, the lights come on, right? So there's a light on the front of the plane and boom, at that moment, the light comes on. Okay. So how long is it going to take for the light to get from the plane to me? Okay. Well, what's the speed of light in feet? One foot per nanosecond. One foot per nanosecond. Let's keep the graphic on the screen though, because we really need to take in this graphic. So the speed of light is one foot per nanosecond. So a hundred nanoseconds later, let's move down to the bottom part of the graphic there. Hundred nanoseconds later and we see where it says person's perspective light arrives. So we're up at that starting time, hundred nanoseconds go by and boom, the light from the plane arrives at me at that very moment and remember a nanosecond is a billionth of a second. So a hundred billionths of a second later, boom, the light arrives from my perspective. Now what you'll notice is above the plane, there's a little distance with a plus one. Do you notice how from the top picture to the middle picture, the plane moved forward a little bit? Now I've exaggerated the movement of the plane just to make it easy to understand, but remember the plane's going at 600 miles an hour. So if the plane's going 600 miles an hour, a hundred nanoseconds later, it moved forward just a hair, didn't it? It moved forward a hair, I exaggerate a little bit so you can see the distance. So you see the distance that the plane has moved forward. Okay, now let's forget about the person on the ground. Now we're in the plane, we're in the cockpit, right? I'm the pilot, you're the co-pilot, we're in the plane and we flip on the light at the starting time. A hundred nanoseconds later, how fast is the light departing from the plane from our perspective? One foot per nanosecond. Speed C, am I right? Yeah. So look, the light is moving at speed C. From the perspective of the guy on the ground, it's moving at speed C, so therefore a hundred nanoseconds later, the light arrives at his eyeballs. Easy enough to understand, right? Now look, when we're on the plane, that's our perspective. That's our uniform motion. That is our reference point and from our reference point, that light is not leaving us at the speed of light minus 600 miles an hour, is it? No. It's leaving us at speed C, period. So therefore, now if we're on the plane in uniform motion, isn't that as good as if we were at rest? Yeah. Right? Yeah. So there we are, we're in uniform motion. That's where we were at rest. If we're sitting on the plane, where should the light be in relation to us a hundred nanoseconds later? A hundred feet in front of us. A hundred feet in front of us because it's leaving us. Just like when I shot the gun, the bullet leaves us at 700 miles an hour, okay? The light leaves us at speed C. So the fact that we're moving forward, we're not catching up to the bullet, right? Because the bullet left our uniform motion, accelerated 700 miles an hour. And so that's why with the earth, it's going faster. But remember the speed of light's not like that. So put the graphic back on the screen, please. So okay, the bottom viewpoint from the plane's perspective, a hundred nanoseconds later, the light must be 100 feet from the plane, okay? So we see that the plane has moved forward that little hair that we're calling the plus one. So look where the light arrives a hundred nanoseconds later. You can see very clearly that the hundred seconds later, the light is not arriving at the person on the ground, but it's actually already past them, okay? So remember, from the person's perspective, because look, we both were in the same position at the starting point, right? Eyes on the ground, people in the plane, light leaves, a hundred feet later, but we have two different perspectives, a hundred feet, or excuse me, a hundred nanoseconds later, the light's arriving at the person from his perspective. But at the bottom of the screen is the plane's perspective. And from the plane's perspective, the light has actually traveled a little bit past the person. Now, I really hope that you at home that have been paying attention can see that there's something wrong with this picture. You can see an inherent contradiction here, right? I hope you can see the contradiction here between the perspective on the plane and the perspective on the ground. Go back to the graphic if you would. Folks, how can both of these things be true? Both of these pictures represent reality a hundred nanoseconds later. A hundred nanoseconds from the person's perspective, the light is just arriving at their face. But from the perspective of the plane, a hundred nanoseconds later, the light is already further. How can both of these things be true? And let me assure you at home, both of these things are true. How can they both be true when the two pictures seem to be contradicting each other? Let me explain to you how. Speed equals distance divided by time, right? So if our speed's in miles per hour, we take the number of miles, divide by the time, right? Sixty miles, one hour. That means I'm going 60 miles an hour, right? If I go 60 miles in one hour, distance divided by time, okay? So these things are locked into a ratio. Speed equals distance divided by time, okay? So is the speed of light, can we tweak that a little in order to make things work? Can we say, well, the speed of light's not really constant? No. The speed of light's constant. Yeah. Okay, so if we can't tweak the speed of light, if the speed of light's constant and things aren't adding up, son, something's gotta give. And you know what we're gonna have to tweak? What are we gonna have to tweak? The time. Time. Space and time will have to be tweaked. Go back to the graphic if you would. Here is how both of these things can be true. The person on the ground is experiencing time differently than the person on the plane. So that when 100 nanoseconds have gone by on the plane, look at the bottom image. When 100 nanoseconds have gone by on the plane, from the person on the ground's perspective, a little bit more than 100 nanoseconds have gone by. And that's why the light is a little bit further because they have passed through time at two different rates. The experience of time on the plane is different than the experience of time on the ground because the speed of light is constant. Now this would be so minuscule. You know, I've exaggerated it here for the picture. It would be just this immeasurably tiny difference. But the difference is there. Yeah. So we don't need the graphic anymore for now. So I hope everybody was paying attention because that's kind of a hard concept to grasp. If you can grasp that, the rest is all going to be easy for you, I think. Okay. So now let's do a little thought experiment, son. So instead of dealing with an airplane that's only going 600 miles an hour and these tiny little infinitesimal differences in time between the way you're experiencing time on the ground and the way you're experiencing time in the plane, let's just use some really huge numbers to really drive this point in so people can understand special relativity in a big way. So we're going to do some make-believe here in order to just drive this in. But this is how this works. This is fact. This has been tested and proven over and over again, and it's called time dilation, which means that when you're moving at a given speed, the faster you get and the closer you get to the speed of light, the more time is going to dilate. Just like even on the plane, there was that tiny bit of time dilation where time went by a little bit slower on the ground than it did on the plane, right? I think it would have been slower on the plane and then rush to the ground. It slows down for the... They experience less time on the plane. Because remember when... Yeah. When 100 nanoseconds pass on the ground, they've experienced some number less than 100 nanoseconds. You're right. And when 100 nanoseconds had gone by on the plane, it was a little more on Earth. So they're experiencing time a little bit slower in relation... On the ground. Yeah. And a little bit faster on the plane, if you want to look at it that way. But anyway, the point is that there's time dilation. The people on the plane are basically, they experience less time in the amount of time that the people on the ground experience. And it was just this tiny little hair of a difference that you can't even measure. So let's do a thought experiment where we talk about a big difference in time, okay? So let's say, just theoretically, we could make a spaceship that would travel at 80% of the speed of light, which is obviously incredible technology that's nowhere near what we have achieved or possibly ever even will achieve. I'm not saying that this will ever be achieved, okay? But I'm just saying, theoretically, let's say we could get on a spaceship that's going 80% of speed C, 80% of the speed of light, okay? If we were to get... And let's pretend for a minute that you and I are both identical twins, okay? So we're identical twins and we're both 40 years old. So we're a couple of 40-year-old guys, we're identical twins. You're gonna stay home, I'm gonna get on a spaceship, and I'm gonna fly to a distant star that's 10 light years away, okay? I'm gonna use that because that makes easy math. So just to explain to you at home what a light year is, okay? A light year is the distance that light travels in a year. So a light year is not a measure of time, a light year is a measure of distance. So if you're traveling at 186,000 miles per second, the distance that you would go if you did that for a year, that's called a light year. So something that's 10 light years away means that if you're traveling at the speed of light, it would take 10 years to get there, okay? So we're traveling at 80% of the speed of light and we're going somewhere 10 light years away, okay? So you're at home and I left, okay? So when I arrive at that star, how long have I been gone from your perspective? Ten years. Well, if I've been gone for 10 years, I'm not there yet because I'm only going 80% of the speed of light. Twelve years. A little more. Twelve and a half. Twelve and a half, there you go. Because here's the thing, if I'm moving at 80% of the speed of light, that means after 10 years, I'm only 80% of the way there. So I gotta go another two and a half years, right? So from your perspective, it's gonna take me 12 and a half years to arrive at this star that's 10 light years away, right? Let's say I just hang out for some short amount of time. I hang out for a couple weeks and then I head home. And obviously the return trip's gonna be the same distance, right? So when I get back, from your perspective, how long have I been gone for? Twenty-five years. Twenty-five years I've been gone. So how old are you now? You were 40 in the beginning. How old are you now? Sixty-five. So you're 65 years old now, but guess what, folks at home? I would only be 55 years old. I would be 55 years old because of the fact that I would have experienced, because I was traveling at such an incredible speed that I would only be experiencing time at 60% of the rate that he's experiencing it, relative to him. But here's the thing. Here's what I want the people at home to understand, though. It's not like I'm on the spacecraft and it's like, whoa. There's nothing actually changing from my perspective. Like hanging out on the plane, everything's gonna, or plane, good night. Hanging out on the spacecraft, isn't everything just gonna seem normal to me? Yeah. Why? Because you're in uniform motion. Because I'm in uniform motion. So if I'm in uniform motion, I'm traveling at a set speed. Time is gonna, let's say I'm wearing my watch. Is my watch gonna do anything weird or anything? No, you'll see it just taking one second. Is it gonna be like, doo doo doo doo doo, it's just changing, no, it's just gonna be. Taking it once a second. Yeah. I mean, is it gonna feel like 15 years to me? Yeah. Yeah, 15, it feels like 15 years, right? You don't have aged that much. And I only aged 15, my body thinks it's 15, it is 15. Yeah. Because my frame of reference on the ship is just as valid as your frame of reference at home. And so I have traveled to this distant star and it's only gonna take me seven and a half years to get there. And it's gonna take me seven and a half years back. So when I get back, now you're 65 years old and I'm only 55 years old and you're gonna look 10 years older than me. Yeah. Because of the fact that I only experienced 15 years while you experienced... 25. 25. Because I was moving at these different speeds. You stayed in uniform motion. I left and went this incredible speed and then traveled back. And so therefore, we have experienced time differently. So there's a mathematical formula to calculate the amount of time dilation you would experience. And I don't wanna go real deep on the math here, but I'll just super quick for the people who are super interested in this. It's called the Lorentz factor. And basically, what you would have to do is you would just take the speed that we're going in relationship to light, which is 0.8, because we're going 80% of the speed of light, 0.8. You square it, 0.64. Subtract from one, 0.36. Square root, 0.6. What's 0.6 as a fraction? Three-fifths. Three-fifths. So basically, we're only gonna experience three-fifths of the amount of time. So 12 and a half years is how much time went by back on Earth. On the ship, I'm only gonna experience 60% of that time. So for me, it's 60% of 12 and a half years or seven and a half years there, seven and a half years back. Total of 15 years traveled. Okay. So let me just check my notes here, make sure I'm not leaving anything out here. Okay. So let's say we went even faster. So remember, we can plug this into this Lorentz number where we basically can square it, subtract it from one, take the square root, reciprocal, and we can create this ratio to tell us. So what if we're going at 99% of the speed of light? Is there gonna be more time dilation? Oh, yeah. Way more. Okay. As we approach the speed of light... And folks, let me just emphasize something to you at home, is that nothing can go faster than the speed of light, nothing. And no object with mass can go the speed of light. So you can never go the speed of light and you could never go beyond the speed of light. The fastest that anything could ever hope to go that actually is an object with mass would be just below the speed of light. Like theoretically, you could get up to 50% of the speed of light, 80% of the speed of light, 90% of the speed of light, 99% of the speed of light. Well, here's the thing. As you get closer and closer to the speed of light, this time dilation is gonna become more dramatic. On the airplane, it's just this fraction of a nanosecond. When you're going 80... Because you're only going 600 miles an hour. Yeah. So 186,000 miles a second, 600 miles an hour, I mean, the speed of the airplane is nothing, literally like almost nothing compared to the speed of light, okay? So it's just this tiny fraction. But then you go 80% of the speed of light, now it's noticeable, 90%, 99% of the speed of light. Folks, if you plug in the numbers into the math, if you're traveling at 99% of the speed of light or 99.9% of the speed of light, basically, there'd be so much time dilation, you could go somewhere as fast as you want, basically. I mean, like let's say something's 100 light years away and you travel at like 99.99, whatever percent of the speed of light, some really incredibly high number, you could just get there in a few... A few minutes, you wouldn't even feel it hardly at all. Yeah, I mean, now you'd have to accelerate up to that and decelerate. But once you're at cruising speed, it could be a matter of weeks, months, days, hours, just depending on how close you are to the speed of light. Yeah. Now, if I went there and back, back home, 200 years have gone by. But on the ship, it just all depends on how fast you're going. Now here's the cool thing, okay? And point four is where we make the biblical tie in. We're gonna tie this in with the Bible now, we're gonna tie it in with scripture, okay? Is that when you are traveling at the speed of light, so let's say you're light and you're traveling at the speed of light, you would be experiencing no time at all. You would not be experiencing any time at all, right? Because the closer you get to the speed of light, there's more time dilation. Well, once you get all the way to the speed of light and it's just one minus one, one minus one, zero. So basically you get to a point where you are experiencing zero time. So basically, and again, no physical object can go that speed, folks. But if you're the photon, right? How much time is the photon experiencing? Now here's the thing, how long does it take for light to get from the sun to the earth from the earth's perspective? Eight minutes. Like eight minutes, 20 seconds or whatever. So it takes approximately eight minutes for light to arrive at us from the sun. But if you're the photon, how long does that trip take you? No time. It doesn't experience any time. Light doesn't experience any time. Folks, think about how profound this is. What does the Bible say? God is light. God is light. Now here's the thing. Which came first, God or light? God. Because God's the one who said, let there be light. So God created light to have his attribute of not experiencing time. Let's pull up second Peter chapter three, verse eight on the screen. God does not experience time. A beloved be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Now how can a day be the same thing to the Lord as a thousand years and vice versa? It's because God doesn't experience time. And who does he have that in common with? Light. See, here's the thing. The natural world teaches us about God. And basically God's glory is manifested in the natural world where he created light to share his attribute and to illustrate his attribute that just as light is experiencing no time because of time dilation, because of what we're learning here with special relativity was discovered in 1905, God isn't experiencing time. So he has that in common with light. No time goes by. Now go to the Psalm scripture if we could, because a lot of people when they see that a day is like a thousand years with the Lord and a thousand years is like a day, they would try to do some kind of a ratio there. But let me mess with your math here. It says in Psalm 94, a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past and as a watch in the night. Now a watch in the night is three hours. So it says a thousand years is like a day, but then it also says a thousand years like three hours. So basically what's that telling you? Time's irrelevant. That time is not a thing for God. God dwells outside of time. What physical thing on this earth also dwells outside of time? Light. Light. Because light is experiencing no time because it's moving at the speed of light. And according to special relativity, light is experiencing a time dilation of just, you know, it's that one minus one. It's basically there's no time passing. So it has that in common with God. Go to Romans chapter one. So think about how cool this is, how light is such a good illustration of God because light, the speed of light's constant. Isn't God constant? Because God said, I'm the Lord. I change not therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. So the speed of light being constant points us to this glorious aspect of God that he's constant and the fact that light experiences no time is pointing us to that attribute of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and God head so that they are without excuse. So the things that are made, the creation, they point us to God's divine attributes, right? The invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen his eternal power and God hood are illustrated by the natural world. So isn't it cool that, yeah, and look, we've all heard preachers, you know, over the years talk about how different things in nature point us to God and, and you know, they, they like to draw illustrations for the Trinity from nature and they might talk about how, you know, time has three aspects, past, present and future, you know, and they use that to illustrate the Trinity or they might use that, you know, the three states of matter, you know, and, and try to use that as just a loose illustration of the Trinity or, or whatever. You know, there's all these different illustrations that people could use, but here's the thing, even the most cutting edge science, you know, you get into the 20th century and you start making these, these amazing discoveries about the nature of space and time and how the speed of light is so constant that space and time will bend, but the speed of light is constant. Folks, that points us to God's glory because God is light. What is that? You know, it's not saying that he's literally light, just like Jesus isn't literally bread or literally a door. Why did Jesus say, I'm the bread of life? He has the attributes of bread. He's nourishing us. He's feeding us. Why does it say God is light? He has the attributes of light. One of those attributes is that light does not experience time, which is why the speed of light is constant, okay? And so God doesn't experience time and God is constant. So even these, you know, cutting edge 20th century discoveries made by Einstein in 1905 are just, again, compatible with the Bible, pointing us to the glorious nature of God. Is that awesome? Or what? Yeah. It's mind blowing, son. Give me more of a reaction than that, son. I want you to show me how blown your mind is right now. What do you, what are the implications of this? What do you think? Talk to me about like the time with the Bible. I mean, I think it's cool that just there's been like all these tie ins with the Bible hidden in science. Like even as we progress scientifically as humans, there's always more that we can learn and tie into the Bible. Like these hidden stuff, God's hidden stuff for us on a deeper level for us to find. So basically like, let's say we discover something in science 20 years from now. There could be some new biblical tie in with that. We're like, no, that was already in the Bible. Yeah. That concept was already there all along. Totally. Right. Yeah. I mean, you take the book of Leviticus written 3,500 years ago or so, and you know, the, you look at the sanitation principles in there way ahead of their time, if these just even just these verses in the poetic sections of, of Job and Psalms and everything, and, and they're compatible with the expanding universe. They're compatible with the speed of light. They're compatible with, you know, even, even, you know, more modern discoveries. I know we're, we're trying to stay in 1905 and previous, but what about, you know, the idea of whether light is a, is a wave or a particle, you know, particle or wave wave or particle. This is some scientists have wrestled with throughout the 20th century. Right? What does the Bible say as a way talks about the way where light dwells, where is the way where light dwells and as for darkness, what is the place thereof? So it shows this thing of light basically, you know, being in motion. Is it a thing? Is it not a thing? Is it moving? You know, the Bible's just right. Just everything, everything that you find in the Bible and in true science is going to be compatible because they're both, they're both true. Yeah. The physical world as we experience it is reality. Yeah. You think we're just in a simulation or this is just like all the matrix. There's a dream or something. Yeah, no, but you know, the physical world that we're dwelling in is real and the Bible's real. So shouldn't they both be compatible? Yeah. Are they? Yes, they are. Absolutely. Now here's what I kind of find mind blowing is just how so many Christians out there, they, they scoff at special relativity. They scoff at the speed of light. They scoff at these and they basically just act like, you know, they, they, they can't believe in it or they don't want to believe in it cause they're a Christian or, but folks, this stuff is just totally compatible with the Bible and it actually glorifies God more. It gives you a deeper understanding, deeper appreciation for both nature and the attributes of God. I think it's super cool. Yeah, definitely. So I hope that you at home understand special relativity. We did the best we could to break it down and to put it into these points of just, uh, you know, just kind of bite sized chunks. So at this point, you know, we're going to open this up for questions. We're going to take phone calls, we're going to take questions in the chat and we're going to try to help with any misunderstandings. You know, I know this is a lot to take in, especially for people who maybe haven't studied science. Those who've studied a lot of science are going to have an easier time, but folks don't, if you, if you're lost, don't feel bad because some of this is, is some kind of high level stuff for, for someone who's just a complete beginner at this. So don't worry about it. Don't feel bad. You might have to watch this a couple of times and, and, and digest it a little bit and let it sink in. But we're going to take questions. But here's the thing, folks at home, we're only going to take questions that have something to do with what we're actually talking about. So you know, we'll take your questions about uniform motion. We'll take your questions about, you know, being at rest, moving, speed of light, special relativity. We're not going to get into general relativity because we're, tonight we're going to party like it's 1905. We're only just trying to catch you up to 1905. We're not going to go beyond that understanding and get into, you know, any more controversial ideas or any wild new discoveries or anything. We want to just stick with what we're actually talking about and really, you know, if you want to ask any questions about science and the Bible, you know, we might even entertain some of those questions, but we'd rather that you focus on astronomy, that you focus on relativity, the speed of light, time dilation, length contraction, the stuff that we're actually talking about tonight about physics, the Bible, science, creation. We can talk, we can answer questions about apparent age, what we talked about a couple of weeks ago. And so, you know, we're going to open it up in the chat, the phone lines. Now here's the phone number to call. Tell me if I got this right, Paul, is it 480-519-4999? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So the phone number to call is 480-519-4999. You can also ask questions in the chat. Give us a call and brother Ramon's up there. You got a call? Yeah. We got Austin on the line. Hey, so my name's Austin. I'm from the Pastor Mark Marches Church in Rock Falls. I had a question. So a lot of times when people are talking about the flat earth and disclaimer, I'm not flat earther, but they talk about flat earth and they talk about every eye shall see him and the basically the earth that has to be a flat plane for every eye to see him. And you got to talking about how God is light. And that made me kind of think with that speed of light and it's constant and time is basically not a factor. How would that whole thing and everything you're talking about now play into the rapture and the second coming? Yeah. I mean that, that definitely could play a role for sure. Because because God dwells outside of time and, and, and basically this could also tie in with his omnipresence basically because of that, you know, because from his perspective, no time is passing. I mean, these are really deep philosophical questions that you'd really have to chew on. But as far as the idea of flat earthers saying, well, every all I can see him that the same flat earthers will also bring up, well, you know, Jesus was taken up into a high mountain and shown all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. That means it's a flat earth. But here, here's the thing about that is that the highest mountain in this world, how tall is it Solomon? About six miles. Yeah. So just roughly like six miles. Okay. Well in an airplane, you go up higher than the tallest mountain because the cruising altitude on airplanes like 35,000 feet. Okay. So it's an Everest, I think is only like what, 28,000 feet or something. Yeah, it sounds right. Something like that. So basically like when you go up on an airplane, do you see all the kingdoms of the whole world? When you go on Everest, do you see all the kings of the whole world? It's so dumb. It's like, I, I, it's ridiculous because obviously going that high. And by the way, the Bible says that he saw all the kingdoms of world in a moment of time. How can you see in all four cardinal directions in a moment of time? It's a miracle folks. It was a miraculous event that took place. And so it was a, thank you for the call. That was a great question just about, you know, Hey, at Christ's return, every eye shall see him. You know, just how basically time is not constant. The speed of light's constant, but space and time can do strange things when we start talking about the speed of light. So an interesting thought, I'll have to chew on that. All right. We got a text message here. Okay. So the question is, is general relativity biblical or is only special relativity biblical? I think both of them are totally compatible with the Bible. No problem. We're not talking about general relativity tonight, but, but I'm, you know, I'm, I believe in both. I believe that both are true. And you know, I'm just kind of tying in special relativity with the Bible. Cause here's the thing, special relativity is hard enough for the layman, non-scientist to wrap his mind around. So you know, it's already, you know, some, some people, it's a struggle to drag them into the 1600s, kicking and screaming, you know, we're just trying to get people to 1905. So we don't, that's why we don't want to go into general relativity, but yeah, general relativity is true as well. All right. Any other questions going on in the chat? Any phone calls, 480-519-4999? All right. We got a Mike from Denver. How you doing, Mike? Good. Pastor Anderson. Hey, I just want to say real quick because of you, I went on militarygetsaved.com, found a great church here in Colorado. So I appreciate you for that. Awesome. My question is when you're on the vehicle going a certain amount of speed, right? So you, you still feel like you're the same time on earth. Are you still, are you still feel the same or you still, you feel time differently? No, everything. No. When you, when you're on, when you're on the vehicle that's moving, whether it's the airplane or the spacecraft moving at 80% of the speed of light, everything's going to feel totally normal to you because you're in uniform motion. And so you're at rest with respect to that vehicle. So everything's totally normal for you. So going 80% of the speed of light, you still feel like you're 25 years difference or you feel 15 years. You're only experiencing, it's not forget what you feel. It's not just that you only feel 15 years, you actually experienced 15 years, 15 years go by on the plane or on the ship. 15 years go by on the ship while 25 years went by back home. So we want to make sure that we don't get the idea that things are feeling different on the plane or that, uh, you know, time is different on the plane. It's just that when you're on the plane, you're at rest. And so 15 years really went by for you. That's your reality on the plane. Does that make sense? Are you still there? Oh, no, he's off the line. So that was a good question though, because I think a lot of people are also wondering both on the earth and on the spaceship, you feel just normal. You don't feel any different on one or the other, but just in one of them, you experienced 15 years and on earth you experienced 25 years, but to either one of us, we would feel normal the entire time. One of us just experienced more time than the other. Yeah. And, and, and again, you know, if we go to the 1600s principle on this, basically if I'm on the airplane, whether the plane, as long as there's no turbulence, as long as it's a smooth ride and we're in uniform motion, that plane could be going a thousand miles an hour or 500 miles an hour. It will feel the same. In fact, if you put down all the shades, there is no way for you to figure out how fast you're going. If you put down the shades and you're in uniform motion, there is nothing that you can do. There's no way that you can measure your speed. I mean, unless you're using like GPS satellites or something, but I'm saying like, as far as you're feeling on the plane, or if you had some measuring device or something, because you're at rest with respect to that, you're in a system that's at rest, you're in uniform motion or uniform motion and being at rest or just as good as one another is another way of putting it. So you're on the plane. That's your normal. You're at rest. You're in uniform motion. And so it doesn't matter whether you're going 2000 miles an hour, 500 miles an hour, 80% of the speed of light, time's going to feel the same. Everything's going to feel the same. You're just there. All right, Pastor, we got Richard from Florida. Hey, Richard. Hey, Pastor. This is Rich Long. I actually go to revival, Baptist Church, and I was fascinated by what you're saying. And I just wanted to point out that you gave the example of the twins once traveling at 80% speed of light and time is traveling at means of passing 60% the normal rate. Well, also there's a length contraction, the same Lorenz factor. So from their perspective, the distance star is actually closer. And so from there, that's why for them, it seems normal because they're traveling back and forth at 60% the distance. That is a great point. The only reason I hadn't brought it up is because I was like, I didn't want to freak people out too much, but you're absolutely right. But here's the amazing application though. So you mentioned that from the perspective of light, there's no time. If you're traveling at the speed of light, there's no time. Right. Imagine that you're getting really close to the speed of light, the entire universe contracts to almost nothing. So there's no distance either. There's no distance either. So light experiences no space. So it's on my presence in that sense. It's on my presence. Exactly. Yeah. Wow. Good point. That's awesome. Well, cool, man. Thank you for bringing that up. I didn't want to bring it up too soon because I was just talking to Solomon about this and Solomon's known about special relativity for a long time. That's why he's here is because he's into this subject. He studied it as a kid. He knew a lot about it. He's actually talked to me about it in the past and stuff, and he was bringing it up to me and telling me about it. But what's interesting is I was just talking to him about this a week ago. He hadn't really heard about the length contraction. He knew all about the time dilation, but he didn't know about the length contraction. And I was explaining to him, well, if you're traveling at 80% of the speed of light and you only traveled for seven and a half years, you only went six light years. So basically that star that's 10 light years away when you're traveling at 80% of the speed of light is only six light years away. It took him about 15 or 20 minutes to process it. He was astonished for about 15 minutes and then it clicked with him and then he got it. So that's why I'm glad you brought that up because that is a thing because if you change the speed, if you change the time, you got to change the distance too. So light experiences all space and all time. It's outside of space and time. Just like God. And so what you're saying about just like God. That's so cool. Yeah. It's just amazing. All right. Thank you, Lester. Great call. Thank you. Good to hear from you, buddy. This is a great presentation. Amen. Thank you. Well, that was an excellent call. Oh, yeah. Because we got into the other subjects, there's time dilation and then there's length contraction. And they're both happening at the same factor, the Lorentz factor. It's the same formula, folks. Point six of the time. Point six. Why? Because speed equals time over. All right. Excuse me. Speed equals distance over time. So speed equals distance over time. If we change the whatever we do to the top of the fraction, we got to do the bottom. Whatever we do to the bottom, we got to do the top. So if we if we affect the time by point six, we got to affect the distance by point six. Folks, if you're at home, don't worry too much about the length contraction because you might just trim that years to hear. Let him hear. Either that than here. Let him hear. All right. So let's take we have another call. Text. What's going on in the chat? Anything interesting? Oh, what do you what do you think about all we're getting the next? Yeah, I haven't. It's going over my head. I'm not really listening. Yeah, he Paul, whenever Paul films anything, he has to go back and watch it later. Because he can't walk and chew gum at the same time because he's he's keeping all the cameras going. He's messing with the sound. And obviously, for a subject like this, you got to be tuned in, like you got to be 100% tuned in. And so those that are at home, you know, if you're trying to multitask too much, you know, you're not going to get it. And by the way, if you're just tuning into the broadcast right now, do yourself a favor and rewind to the beginning, because jumping into something like this midstream, you might hear some weird things and you might freak out and think that we're like talking about time travel or something when we're not. So you know, you kind of got to go back and listen to the beginning, folks and listen to it from the beginning. All right, Pastor. We got another caller here. Hello? Yes. Hey, how you doing? Pretty good. I'm here. So my question is, in the Old Testament, when I forgot his name, but God let's see the angels around him to see that he's not alone in the battle. Mm hmm. My question is how, you know, we can see certain colors of, you know, the way the wavelength, light, and we can't see the microwave, why microwaves ultraviolet light and all that. Right. My question is, are like the angels and all that, like in a different frequency, like radio waves and all that we can't see, but they're there and they exist. Well, that's an interesting question. But but here's the thing about that is that even though we can only see a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum, there are all kinds of instruments that can measure the other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. So if they were to say a different frequency, they'd be being picked up on all the scientific devices, like infrared goggles or something. Yeah. Or you'd be seeing it's a it's a good question. Yeah. But you'd be you'd be seeing them with like a radio telescope or right. And in fact, Ramon, I don't know if you're able to just Google image electromagnetic spectrum and pull up the electromagnetic spectrum, because here's an here's an important point that we want to make to Solomon is that when we we talk about the speed of light, it's not just light that travels at the speed of light. It's everything on the electromagnetic spectrum. Right. Yeah. So basically any waves on the electromagnetic spectrum are going to travel at the speed of light. So that would also include radio waves. That would also include microwaves, infrared rays, ultraviolet, gamma cosmic rays. Right. Exactly. So let's hopefully we can pull up a picture of the electromagnetic spectrum. But while it's pulling up, I'm just going to explain it verbally. But if you can pull up, just go to Google Images and search electromagnetic spectrum and leave it on the screen. And I'll tell you which image is the right one. If you want to just throw it on the screen where I can see it. OK, just just go ahead and grab that first image. That should work. And just if you can find a way to maximize that somehow. So scroll, scroll down. Right. Right. Like it. Right. Click it and put like view image. You get bigger. There we go. Bigger, bigger. Is that as big as it gets? I don't know if you can. You can only get the. OK, that's fine. We're going to we're going to go with what we got here. OK. So the electromagnetic spectrum basically has one small part of it. That's the visible light. OK. And the electromagnetic spectrum has is a frequency, has the longer waves on the right there. OK. And then the shorter wavelength, higher frequency to the right now, as you can see, there's like a little rainbow in the middle of the spectrum. That rainbow is the is the spectrum of visible light. I learned this as a kid, as Roy G. Biv, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. Unlike the sodomite flag with their only six colors, actual rainbow has seven colors. Roy G. Biv. Right. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. Did you learn it that way? No, I just learned it with six colors. What in the world? You didn't learn Roy G. Biv? No, I heard about it when I was older. Yeah, you learn what? Did you learn Roy G. Biv? No, I'm just kidding. No, I never learned any acronyms. All right. So pull up the spectrum again, if you could, please. There we go. So electric. Well, I don't like that picture. That one's no bueno. Go back to the other one. Because we wanted to show the rainbow only being the visible light spectrum. So while you're looking for it, Roy G. Biv, right? Yeah. So here's the thing. Biv is the visible spectrum, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. But then just outside of what we can see, you have infrared on the Roy side, right? Infrared and ultraviolet. So these are invisible forms of light, right? So you got infrared is a slightly longer wavelength, lower frequency, and it's not visible. That's infrared. And then as we move to the right to higher frequencies, we go from violet to ultraviolet. That's why you need the seven color. You got to have the Roy G. Biv. So basically beyond ultraviolet, you get to x-rays and then you get to gamma rays. So now you're getting even higher frequency. Well, as you move to the left, you go from infrared to microwaves to radio waves. So radio waves are moving at the speed of light as well because all of this stuff is on the electromagnetic spectrum, whether it's radio waves, microwaves, and think about like TV. TV is on the spectrum because TV, you know, remember, good night, remember, you're only 18 years old. You at home. Do you remember when the TV used to have two dials on it, VHF and UHF, all right, very high frequency and ultra high frequency is what that stood for. And those are just different wavelengths, cell phones, 5G, you know, microwave, x-ray, all this stuff's on the electromagnetic spectrum. It's all traveling at the speed of light. Okay. Now, a lot of people who scoff at the moon landing would say like, well, how can they talk to the astronauts on the moon with no delay? There should be a delay on that call. Well, here's the thing. Radio waves are going to transmit from the moon to the earth at the speed of light. And at the speed of light, it takes about one and a quarter seconds for light from the moon to come to earth or for radio waves from the moon to come to the earth. So basically round trip would be two and a half seconds. So basically if someone on the moon communicates via radio waves, we're going to get that signal one and a quarter seconds later. So that's the delay, one and a quarter seconds. That's why you can talk to people literally on the other side of the world. Right? I mean, you could video Skype with people on the other side of the world. There's not some delay that you're waiting. Why? No, because it's, you know, speed of light, speed of light. And obviously that's not radio waves, but anyway, because it's the internet is satellite. But it's all, it's all on the electromagnetic spectrum in one way or the other. Yeah. Nothing's going faster than the speed of light. You know, and light itself is just the subset of the electromagnetic spectrum. They're all equally electromagnetic waves that move at the speed. See basically like radio waves are just like, they're almost like light that we can't see. They're just not special to us cause we can't see them. Yeah. But if we put on special goggles, we could see what, which one you want infrared goggles, infrared goggles or x-rays. Yeah. So basically, um, yeah, that, that's good stuff. Electromagnetic spectrum. So basically if, if, if these spiritual things were going on in another part of the electromagnetic spectrum, then they'd be picked up on equipment, you know, and folks, we need to understand that things like angels, demons, God, these are happening not in the physical realm. These are happening in the spiritual realm. So we need to keep these two separate. God, when we say God is light, we're not saying that God is literally light or that light is literally God. Don't misunderstand us folks. We're saying light has the attributes of God. God wanted to manifest himself through nature. So when God said, let there be light and there was light, he created light to share his attribute of not experiencing time. Okay. That's what we're saying. We don't want you to get the wrong idea that, that God is somehow a part of the physical universe and he's just operating on some other wavelength or something I got wrong. God is a spirit. Okay. God is a spiritual realm with angels and demons and so forth. And that is not to be conflated with the physical realm, just like the soul. Our soul doesn't have mass and energy and it's, you know, our soul is, it's not physical. It's something that's in a different realm. All right. Good stuff. You got something else to say? So I was going to say just in conclusion, no, when, when Elijah, when Elijah or the Elijah Elijah servant servant servant is showing that stuff, it was completely supernatural. It was not like he was opening his eyes to some other part of the spectrum or anything. Right. Just the short answer. It's a good question though. Yeah. All right. What else we got? Anything else from the control room? Any calls? We're, we're setting someone up right now. Okay. Coolness. All right. So I, what time is it? Let's see how we're see how we're doing on time. How long? Oh, eight 30. So we're doing good on time. Super long to explain things. I was, I was hoping it would take about an hour and then we could take calls for a while. So we've already done a bunch of questions. We're an hour and a half in, hopefully the people at home have a grasp and look, if you're not grasping something, you may have to just watch it again. Or you can call in, you can call in, you can, you can ask in the chat. To me, this is so cool. And it's just, the Bible is just, once again, just right on in tune with special relativity. So what a, what a, what a, what a fascinating thing about our world and, and, and let's talk about some of the experiments that have been done to prove this because this has been around for 115 years. And lots of scientists have been interested in testing this because, because it's so weird. Like people would want to test it, right? Oh yeah. You want to talk about some of the experiments? Yeah. Like for example, while back and I don't know if I have all the details, I think I have them right there. Yeah. Go ahead and go ahead and grab that. Uh, are you, are you going to talk about the experiment where they, they get on the airplanes with a clock, but just talk about it from that one. Just talk about it from memory. Yeah. So you didn't print it a while back in 1971 they stuck a bunch of cesium atomic clocks on commercial planes and they had some on the ground as well. So they synchronized them all and they flew them around the world in two different directions and they were able to measure the time dilation and I don't have all the numbers in front of me right now, but they actually vindicated both special relativity and general relativity. The outcome was not predicted just using special relativity because they were leaving the ground and moving away from gravity. General relativity is brought in as well for sure. But the point is they, they, they left with basically accurate clocks in the world that were all synchronized, they flew around the world in two different directions and when they compared notes, the time it shifted by the amount that they, by the amount they predicted. So yeah, it's definitely been proven in actual practical experiments. And by the way, that same experiment was recreated on the 25 year anniversary in 1996 with much even more accurate clocks, you know, even better technology, even to a greater degree of accuracy. And guess what? Again, it matched the predictions of special relativity and general relativity. And so this has been proven a whole bunch of different ways. That's just one example. Well, I've got another thing right here in front of me about the GPS satellites because I mean when they put the satellites in orbit, we use GPS every day, we have it on your phone or whatever to tell where you are and for it to be that accurate to where it knows exactly where you are in the world. I mean, today it could like, I have an app that sees how far I walk, it can like see when I walk up a driveway or something. Yeah. Now when it's that accurate, it has to take into account both general and special relativity. And so it has all these numbers here, explains about how they orbit at an altitude of about 20,000 kilometers from the ground, moving at about 14,000 kilometers an hour, orbits about every 12 hours. And each one has on it an atomic clock that's basically accurate down to one nanosecond. So nanoseconds matter. Oh, yeah. When you're that high up moving that fast, measuring that relatively small amount of movement. So what if the GPS satellites ignored special relativity and said, it's just a theory, we don't believe in it, what would happen to the accuracy of the GPS results? It actually explains right here, it says that if these effects were not properly taken into account, it would be basically the navigational, it detecting where you are, it would be wrong after about two minutes. And the errors would accumulate to 10 kilometers a day. So the longer it's in orbit, it would literally be stacking up by 10 kilometers a day, because it's not, it seems like it's small, but when you're moving that fast, yeah, at that kind of a high nanoseconds for that long, those kind of nanoseconds definitely matter. Because it explains, it has to be precise down to about 20 to 30 nanoseconds at all times to be able to get functional, because it has to measure a light ping from your phone to it and back again, to be able to detect where you are. So it has to be extremely accurate. And if special relativity wasn't a thing, they wouldn't have to program this in, in general relativity as well. But the point is, again, this is a practical application of relativity, they actually have to factor this in. So this isn't just some wild-eyed theory, this is proven science from 115 years ago that affects our everyday lives, where these GPS satellites, the only way they can stay accurate because, you know, we've all heard of nanotechnology, yeah, nano means one billionth. And when you're dealing with billionths of a second, those kind of things are gonna matter. Time dilation is a thing, folks. And so therefore, you know, did you hear, he said in one day, it could get like 10 kilometers off? So today, it sees me, today it's calibrated, I'm in Phoenix, right? And I'm at a certain point in Phoenix, tomorrow it's got me 10 kilometers away from where I'm actually, how am I gonna even drive? It thinks I'm literally in another town, you know, and give it a few days, give it a few weeks or months, it's gonna think I'm in another state, you know, it's not gonna work. So special relativity is something that's, you know, in use in technology that we use every single day. Oh, yeah. All right, Pastor, we got another caller here, Carrie. Carrie, how you doing? Hey, I'm doing well, I'm doing the program. So one question that was kind of bugging me, and I knew that I was gonna have some trouble sleeping if I didn't ask it. So when you were discussing your illustration of the guy hanging out on Earth, in his controlled environment, and the astronaut moving at 80%, the speed of light, right? My question is, how would you hypothesize a phone call going the entire time? You know, how would their shared experience be affected? Do you think that it would sound faster on the person on, you know, would the point of reference with the person on Earth, hear the phone call faster? Or with the person in the spaceship going 80% the speed of light? Here's the person, you know, kind of like, okay, yeah, I got the question. I got it. I'm gonna let it was Jerry. I'm gonna let I totally understand your question. It's a good question. I'm gonna I'm gonna let Solomon take a shot at that first go go Solomon. Yeah, so the person on Earth would hear the person on the spaceship. They would sound slow, because for them less less time is passing. So a year on Earth isn't as long in their perception. So you could imagine that in relation to the Earth time, their time is being almost stretched out to where 12 and a half years pass on Earth, only seven and a half years pass on the on the spaceship. So they'd sound like they'd be sounding like they're at like 60% speed to the person on the Earth. And then the person on the other side a little bit faster than Oh, yeah, because they are having more time pass for them than the guy in the spaceship. So the guy in the spaceship, you're right in relation to the Earth, he would be moving in slow motion, but he wouldn't notice it for him. Only that much time is passing when you're on the Earth. Everything's normal. When you're on the ship. Everything's normal. But if you tried to like communicate between the two, yeah, well, if you think about it, let's say you're doing a Skype video call, where and let's say the webcams doing 30 frames a second. Well, that's 30 frames a second on the spaceship. But one second on the spaceship is going to be a longer period of time on Earth. So the guy on Earth would be getting maybe, I don't know, 20 frames per second, maybe more or less. I'm not the exact math. But the point is, he would see the video as being slower and more drawn out because the frames are coming slower. So yes, to the guy on the Earth, the guy in the spaceship sounds slow to the guy in the spaceship. The guy on the Earth sounds fast. All right, very good. We're ready for another question. Anything in the chat? We'll just throw them through. Just don't do. Yeah, just just hit us with what this is. How you doing? What? Oh, hey. How are you doing, Steven? Good. Oh, hey, my question is, in your opinion, what is the one like a scientific fact or a historical fact that you find the Bible just completely proves? And it's like the most awesome fact that could make any atheist in awe? Well, here's the thing. You know, atheists are not going to be in awe with anything just because typically they just they hate God and they pretty much just, you know, don't want to believe in him. So there's nothing in the Bible that's going to be a smoking gun that's going to just make them believe, because I want to strongly emphasize what I always emphasize, that it's the gospel of Jesus Christ that is the power of God unto salvation. God has chosen the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. And so, you know, I don't believe that a scientific fact from the Bible is ever going to convert an atheist or convert a non-believer. I think it's going to be the power of the gospel that's going to convert the unbeliever. But just how about just cool scientific facts, though? Let's answer the question, though. What are just the most just the coolest things where the Bible knew first, the Bible was right first? I think one of the biggest ones for me is just like Leviticus chapter 15, the sanitation law. Yeah. Because if you think about how even a couple hundred years ago, the doctors are like washing their hands and standing water, spreading germs, whereas the Bible talks about how you have to wash in running water. If someone sick is on the bed, you got to wash the bed. You got to wash the chair. You got to go wash your body running water. I mean, the sanitation is way ahead of its time. Oh, yeah. I think that's amazing. Obviously, he sits upon the circle of the earth. So the Bible, you know, in approximately the eighth century B.C. is talking about the fact that the earth is round. Job, which was probably written sometime between, you know, 1500 B.C. and 1000 B.C. says that he hangs the earth on nothing when a lot of people in ancient Greece and other places still thought the earth was flat. The Bible already knew that he hangs the earth on nothing. It's the circle of the earth. You know, God, this thing about the speed of light, I think is super cool. But, you know, it takes a little while to explain. Yeah, it took us a while to explain. What do you think? But it's worth it. Can you think of anything else? Any other just kind of cool things where the Bible knew first and science had to catch up with the Bible? I mean, I asked the question, I was already thinking about the germ theory thing. So you kind of took that one. All right. That's kind of the big one. I mean, take me to think of some of the other ones. Yeah, because the Bible's right on with germ theory. The Bible's right on with with cosmology, earth hanging on nothing the way where the light dwelleth. You know, God is light. I mean, there's just so many cool things. You know, I would. The Bible is correct, scientifically correct 100% of the time, you know. And there are other things from, you know, I don't know as much about the zoology and biology side. I spend more time studying like the astronomy and the physics and chemistry and stuff like that. But, you know, from the zoology side, you know, the Bible does talk about like ants and it talks about a lot of animals that actually talk about that because it talks about go to the ant, consider her ways. And I mean, the Bible knew even back then that the ants that work are all female because there's a queen and then the workers, the drones do not work with the males. So and it's the same thing for a beehive. Yeah. All the females do the work and the males are they just mate and then they die. So that's cool, right? Yeah. So it knew that it's supposed to use a female pronoun there, which is especially cool because the Bible normally uses male pronouns when it's referring to men or just mixed genders. Generic. The generic pronoun is masculine and it uses feminine. Yeah. It knew that it's feminine, that it's female ants they're talking about. Yeah. And I'm sure if we thought about the animals in the Bible, we'd probably think of a bunch of examples where the Bible was zoologically correct. And how about just folks, you know, I want to just again emphasize how cool First Chronicles chapter 16 verse 30 is, you know, in the sixteen hundreds, this verse would really click when Galileo explains his theory of relativity, you know, the ancient relativity of the sixteen hundreds. Fear before him all the earth, the world also shall be stable that it be not moved. So it's not that the earth isn't moving. It's that it's stable in uniform motion. It's not being moved. It's not being acted upon by an outside force. It's in uniform motion. It's stable. It's not being moved. That is such a great description. Like you couldn't word it any better than First Chronicles 16 30 does. Yeah, it's great. All right. How are we doing on questions? Yeah. So we've got Daniel on the line. Hey, how's it going Pastor Anderson? I have a question. So you know how the faster you go on Earth, theoretically, or like in space, how the more time passes by, the faster you go. So let's say I want to enjoy this Friday as long as possible. The best way to do that is sitting still, right? That is, well, I mean, that's, that's, it's a funny joke, but here's the thing. Whether you're traveling at 99% of the speed of light or whether you're at rest with respect to the Earth, you're still going to experience the same Friday. Like it's still going to feel like 24 hours no matter where you're at, but you're going to come back at like a couple of work weeks have passed and you're going to be fired. So and again, you know, I want to just, just to help reinforce, I'm just going to quickly go over again our points of this broadcast that we covered in detail earlier. Point number one, being in motion or being at rest is relative. So you know, it doesn't matter, folks, whether you're moving, whether you're, and when we say that, we mean moving in uniform motion. You got to be in uniform motion. If you're accelerating in any way, all bets are off. That's why special relativity, by the way, is called special relativity is because here's what the, we should probably explain what the special means. The special means it's in a special situation called being in uniform motion. That's when this applies. Otherwise, you got to get into general relativity. When you're just talking about in general, how are things relative? But special relativity, we're talking uniform motion. And so whether I'm in uniform motion on a spaceship going 99% of the speed of light or if I'm on relative motion on an airplane going 600 miles per hour, it's going to feel the same. Nothing will feel different. And it's not like, well, but you're really going because wherever you are is what's really happening. Yeah. And when they say that really doing is referencing just an even greater point of reference. Like say, oh, you're on the plane. Yeah, you're at rest, but you're really going 600 miles an hour where you're still referencing it. Yeah. But you're really moving around the sun at X, Y, and even the sun is really moving around the center of the galaxy. And then the galaxy is really moving at whatever the speed that they found. Are any of those more real than the other? No, they're just more zoomed out. So what was point two? Any frame of reference is as good as the next. They're all just as real. Yeah. It's not like time is not as real over here. It's all real. It's just different perspectives. Yeah. That's all. There's no real clock in the universe like this is the real time, Greenwich, England. And that's the real time, folks. You say, well, what, what, what time has gone on? None. So the, you know, the time is relative period. And so is space. It's the speed of light. That's constant. So. All right. What do we got hit us? Anything from the chat? We're just going to put them through what's going on in the chat, put something through No screening. You're live. Oh, man. Hi. Hey, how you doing? Hi, I'm good. Okay. So my question is, there's the first Bible that says no man could see God's face at any time and live. And I was just wondering like that statement in relation to all the stuff that you're talking about, about the speed of light and God's qualities being like light. And so just to like, just comparing those, you know, that I'm sure I'm not sure. I'm not sure what verse that is in the Bible. But yeah. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. I appreciate the question. Thank you for asking. Basically, what you're referring to is back in the book of Exodus, when Moses is on Mount Sinai, and he wants to see God's glory, and God tells him no man shall see my face and live. And you'll also find throughout the Old Testament, whenever they do see God, they're scared that they're going to die. Because they don't realize that what they actually saw was the Son of God, Jesus Christ in a pre, you know, in an Old Testament appearance of Christ, a Christophany, okay. So no man could see my face and live. I personally don't think that that ties in with this discussion, because of the fact that I think that that's on a different plane or a different level, because God is not actually light. It's just he has the attributes of light. And it was obvious that the caller understands that. But I can't really see how that would tie in with this. I think it's just that God supernatural. I think it's just that, here's the way I've always interpreted no man can see my face and live is that basically God's glory is just so overwhelming. It would be like looking directly into the sun times a billion or something, you know, just like if you looked into the sun, you'd go blind. Or what if you got right up to the sun and checked it out. And let's say you got to the level of the corona of the sun, and it's 15 million degrees on the 15 million Kelvin. Right. Yeah. So you're you're at like 15 million Kelvin in the corona of the sun. You're just going to be consumed. And I feel like that's what God's getting out with that is that he's just so glorious and powerful that you just be wiped out. If you're confronted, like you can't handle it. No man can't be confronted with the God of the universe. It's just going to just obliterate him to smithereens. But I don't know if it really I don't think that ties in with special relativity unless you can think of something that I'm no, I wouldn't really be about that. Yeah. All right. Cool. Thank you for the call. Good question. Yeah, just let's just do Wild West. Just put them through. No screening. All right. It's Josh from Pennsylvania. Hey, Josh, how you doing? Doing good. How are you? Great. I just had a question. Hebrews chapter 11, verse three says, Through faith, we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Is that is that in relation to Genesis, verse one? In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth, and the earth was without form, and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Is that talking about, are those two related? Yeah. Yeah. Through faith, we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Yeah. I think that that's talking about the ex nihilo aspect of God's creation, that he created the earth from nothing. Is that what you're getting at, or? We had another question, a text message here. Okay. I think what I think that means is that it's ex nihilo creation, the things that are made were not made of things which do appear. Basically, he created it out of nothing, he created it ex nihilo. Those two scriptures are certainly related. That's what we're talking about. Yep. Amen. All right. So, dear Pastor Anderson, why do you feel comfortable that now is the time to say the Bible is compatible with science? Pastors at one time argued for a past eternal universe and earth when those . . . Well, here's the thing. Why do you believe that now is the time? Folks, I've always believed that the Bible has been compatible with science. I've never said anything to the contrary to that. And if there's any so-called science that's not compatible with the Bible, it's science falsely so-called. And folks, this is such an easy philosophical truth to wrap your mind around the fact that if the physical world that we're experiencing is real, and if the Bible is true, they both have to match. Reality and the Bible must match, and if they don't match, then one of them isn't true. Yeah, but it's not like the Bible contradicts relativity at any point. No. In fact, it actually is a really cool tie-in. Of course. The Bible confirms . . . The Bible's like, hey, good job, Einstein, catching up with where I've been at since eternity past, catching up with this book that was written thousands of years ago. So the bottom line is that I have always said that the Bible is compatible with science. In fact, every church I've ever gone to . . . Because he's like, well, preachers in the past, said X, Y, and Z. Every church that I've ever gone to in my 38 years on this earth has gotten up and said, science is compatible with the Bible. The Bible's compatible with science. Why? Because, look, if something I read in the Bible and reality don't match, I must be misunderstanding one of the two, or one of the two isn't real. I know reality's real, and I know the Bible's real. So they must match, and they do over and over again. It's so easy to make them jive because they're both true. They're both real. Have you ever heard a Bible preacher say that the Bible's not compatible with science and we need to reject science? No, never. Have you ever even heard of that? No, because sometimes the point at some individual scientific conclusion and say this doesn't agree with the Bible, like say evolution, but they don't as a whole just say science and the Bible are not compatible. They all will say that. So what would they say about evolution then? Well, they would say it's unscientific, which it is. They'd say it's science falsely so-called. But every Christian, every preacher- Well, not every Christian, but every preacher. Every preacher worth their salt. Every preacher that we've ever listened to, right? Any well-informed Christian as well would know that science and the Bible have to be in agreement because science is just studying the observable universe. And didn't the Bible tell us that the natural world's going to point us to God's- Yeah. Godhood? Yeah. So there you go. So yeah, science and the Bible are totally compatible. Now here's the thing. If something in science seems to contradict something in the Bible, we might be misunderstanding the Bible or we might be misunderstanding the science or it might be science falsely so-called. There are a lot of different options to deal with there. But folks, just because I'm talking more about science over the last few weeks, it doesn't mean like this is some new thing. Now all of a sudden, we've always believed in science, give me a break. And so has every church I've ever gone to in my life. What's up? This is great. I agree with you. And we got another text message here. Would time reverse if you went faster than the speed of light? You can't do that. You can't go faster than the speed of light. Exactly. So no, you cannot go faster than the speed of light. So no, we do not believe in time travel. No such thing as time travel. So you're not gonna go back in time by exceeding the speed of light. Nothing can exceed the speed of light. Okay. Because remember, as our astute caller, Richard Long brought up, that he said that, you know, when you're going at the speed of light, the distance becomes zero. Remember? Yeah. Because of the Lorentz factor being applied to both time and distance. How do you go faster than that? It's not even logical. It's a non sequitur. So that question has no meaningful answer to that question. The answer to your question is one divided by zero. All right, let's move on. It's one to the infinity power. All right, let's move on. Still one. No, it's not. No. That's what I used to think. I'll have to check that out later. One to the infinity power is undefined. Some people have made the case for it actually being one, but most of the time in math, it's considered to be undefined. You'd think one to anything is one, right? Yeah. I mean, I'll have to research that later. But one to the infinity is undefined, just like you'd be tempted to think infinity over infinity is, you'd be tempted to think that that's a one, because anything over itself is one. But infinity over infinity is undefined. All right, Pastor, we got a Wild West here. All right, you're on the air. How you doing? Hey, Pastor Anderson. I wanted to ask your, I hear you talk about the flat earth and kind of diss some of their thoughts sometimes. But when I read the Bible, it makes a lot of sense to me. You know what I mean? We all know gravity is just a theory. Evolution's a theory. You know, we know Einstein was a weirdo. Gravity and evolution don't belong in the same sentence. Listen, man. Okay. If you're a flat earther, you're either a complete idiot, or you're an atheist pretending to be a Christian, trying to make the Bible look stupid, or both. Okay. And I will go on the record right now. Anyone who is a flat earther is either a complete idiot, or they're an infiltrator. Because look, in the 1980s, when I was growing up, people talked about the Bible teaching a flat earth. Only atheists talked about that. No Christian ever said that in the 80s or 90s. They were accusing the Bible, the Bible teaches flat earth. But in reality, the Bible said he hangs the earth on nothing. The Bible says he sits upon the circle of the earth. And so all throughout the Bible, it's never a flat earth. It's always cosmologically and scientifically correct. It was atheists that would try to throw that railing accusation. Now they don't have to accuse us of it anymore. Well, now when I hear these so-called fake Christians claiming that the Bible teaches a flat earth, you know what I think? I think they're just atheists pretending to be Christians trolling. And that's why, by the way, let me say this about the flat earthers. On YouTube, you know, you just get all these comments from flat earthers. A lot of those are fake accounts, they're robotic accounts, they're troll accounts. And here's a little piece of evidence on that. A while back, YouTube removed a bunch of fake troll accounts in one day. And so everybody's subscriber count went down a little bit. So I had like at the time, a hundred and some thousand subscribers. And so I lost like maybe several hundred subscribers or a thousand subscribers or something. So so I lost less than 1% of my subscribers. So like 99% plus of my subscribers were real. But Tyler Doka, the flat earther on that same day, he lost like a third of his subscribers because it was like there's so many fake troll accounts. And that's why whenever you try to reason with a flat earther, they never will even engage with you. Like you'll bring up a point and then they'll just change the subject to something else. You disprove them on one thing, they just change the subject. It's they're like an intellectual reprobate. It's impossible to talk to them, impossible to reason with them. And so flat earthers out there, I don't care who you are, you are a complete idiot. Pastor Anderson says you are a fool. You're a complete idiot. And you know what? I'm just doing what your parents should have done a lot. You know, your parents, when you were younger, your parents, when you brought up something that stupid should have given you a spanking for being such an idiot because the thought of foolishness is sin. And so, you know, you know, we're having to take you to the woodshed verbally because your parents failed to raise you right. That's why you're a flat earther. They didn't raise you right. OK, that's what I'm talking about. Oh, and don't don't call in either if you're flat earther. You're talking about relativity and actual astronomy. Now, I will say this. The geocentricity people are dead wrong. They were debunked 400 years ago in the 1600s. But geocentric callers are welcome because you can actually reason with the geocentricity people. You know, they just need to learn more about astronomy. They need to learn more about physics. They need to learn more about science. But you know what? I'm not saying that they're infiltrators or complete idiots or atheists posing as Christians. But I will say that about the flat earthers. So geocentric is welcome to call in. Flat earthers, if you call in, I'm going to rip you a new one. All right. All right. We got a sick Solomon on you. He'll rip you. No, I'm just kidding. Solomon. Calm down. All right. We got Josiah on the line. Josiah Wittenberger? No. Hey Josiah, how are you doing? Oh, pretty good. My question was about how light can be sped up and slowed down. I heard about it a long time ago. Just your thoughts on that. Okay. So here's the thing. Light can certainly not be sped up because nothing can travel above speed C. Now there is a way for light to be slowed down, quote unquote. That's only if it's going through some kind of a material. Like let's say light is moving through a ton of water or something, then obviously it's going to be affected by that. So when we talk about the speed of light being constant, we're technically talking about the speed of light in a vacuum being constant. And it's true that the speed of light is constant with respect to any observer in uniform motion. But yes, waves of the electromagnetic spectrum could be slowed down through a material like water, for example. But it can't be sped up. And it's, yeah. Does that answer your question? He's off. We got another question here. Good question though. That was important. Do you have any thoughts you want to share on that or no Solomon? No. But you agree with that? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. All right. All right. We got Troy on the line. Troy, how you doing? Hello. Hey, very good. Thank you. Great show. And I have a question. Since the world is only 6,300 years old, according to the age of the Bible, and light is at this constant, and do you believe that we only see what the light shows us from the stars? Like past light? I believe that when we look at the star Alpha Centauri, we're basically seeing what Alpha Centauri looked like approximately four years ago, because Alpha Centauri is about four light years away. So to look into the sky is to look into the past in that sense. Okay. So since we do agree on that, do you believe that there's galaxies that are 100,000 light years away? Yes. Do you believe that there's galaxies if it's only 6,300 years in the past? That's a great question. It's because of the fact that God created the earth with an apparent age. Our entire last broadcast a couple weeks ago was answering that exact question. And basically, what it is is that when God created the earth, he created a mature earth, a mature universe, just like Adam in the Garden of Eden, he didn't create a fetus, he didn't create a baby, he created a fully grown adult man, you know, that would look like he's in the prime of life or in the middle of his lifespan. Well, our solar system was created, basically to look like it's in the middle of its lifespan, you know, astronomers, secular astronomers would tell you that the lifespan of our sun is about 10 billion years, and that we're about 4.6 billion years in with 5.4 billion years to go. And so God basically created our solar system in the middle of its life. So basically, our solar system appears to be 4.6 billion years old, our universe appears to be 14 billion years old, but that's because God created it ex nihilo, from nothing, approximately 6400 years ago, but he created it as an old universe or an old earth, just like he created an old Adam, old trees, he didn't put little saplings in the garden, he created old trees. So basically, you know, God created all of these heavenly bodies in motion, and they all seem older than they are. And it's sort of like he just dropped us into the middle of the story, he entered the middle of a story and created life, created Adam, Eve, the animals and so forth on Earth, but the universe looks as if it's been around. So basically, if I look at a distant star, like he's bringing up, that's, you know, 100 million light years away, okay, and you say, well, things haven't been around for 100 million light years. Yeah, but in God's mind, they have, there's a backstory there. So yeah, you're looking at what that star would have looked like 100 million years ago, even though it was only created 6400 years ago, there's a backstory there. And you know, I could go on and on about that and do a better job of explaining that. But I already did last week, two weeks ago. So to that caller, if you really want to know about the subject, go watch the stream called astronomy creation in the Bible from two weeks ago. And we deal with that starlight problem. And I think you'll find it very compelling. And I think that you will find my answer satisfying. I hope you will. Indeed. All right. We got Josh from California. Josh, how are you doing? Doing great. Hey, Pastor Anderson and Solomon, I'll mention him since no one's talked about him, but my question is, on the new heaven or the new earth, when that happens, do you think that the laws of the universe, you know, things like gravity or just how the universe works, do you think that could change when the new earth is created, you know, maybe different gravity or different rules, things like that? Well, it's it's hard for us to speculate about these things because of the fact that it's so far removed from our current situation. So many things are going to happen in between. And because the Bible talks so little about the new heaven and the new earth. So there's not a lot of data from the Bible. But I will give you my opinion, I'll give you my speculation. I believe that the laws of physics are still going to be in place in the new heaven and the new earth. You know, the laws of physics are so beautiful. And God has created the laws of nature to operate on such beautiful principles and the math behind it's beautiful, the science behind it's beautiful. And so, you know, I believe that many of these things are perfect, so they're not going to change. So I do believe that those laws of physics will probably and again, this is just me speculating because the Bible doesn't talk about this. I would speculate that yeah, they are going to going to apply. But obviously, you know, it's going to we're going to last forever. So any kind of a scientific theory that talks about an end of the solar system or an end of the universe, God's not going to allow the solar system in the universe to just keep heading toward that cliff. Because of the fact that the earth abideth forever, according to the Bible, the earth will abide forever. And so God is going to in the new heaven and the new earth, obviously, they're going to be supernatural things that happen that will set us on on a new program, where we will be able to exist eternally, perpetually, but I do believe that we will be on this planet and that we will be in this reality. So but part of that speculation, because the Bible doesn't give us a whole lot of information in Revelation 21 and 22. And the pertinent passages in Isaiah or whatever, anything you want to add to that, son? Just one thing about like, for example, the second law of thermodynamics, that says that everything just tends to decay. So like you were saying about the solar system winding down and stuff, certain laws like that could be tweaked or even removed, just because our entire universe in the new heaven and the earth is not going to be decaying. So the rules like that aren't going to apply as much. And also, I could also imagine that even with laws such as gravity, there might still be some kind of like a supernatural way to tweak that, or where like there's still gravity, you can still set something down on the shelf, but then you'd be able to supernaturally fly or do whatever. Like, like he was saying, there's not a lot of the Bible talks about that. But it could be some kind of a thing where the laws of physics apply, but can be optionally suspended. Or maybe God, I think that God's just going to tweak a few things because like, think about how he tweaked the DNA of man, where basically before the flood, you have people living much longer, and then he tweaked their DNA. And you can tell he did it through the DNA, because of the fact that the ages start going down gradually. It's not like just after the flood, whoa, we're living way shorter. It's like, it goes from like 900 to 400 to 200. And it winds down until it settles in at the new age. And also, you know, felines used to be herbivore. All the animals were originally created as an herbivore. But obviously now felines can, they can only live off meat. It's impossible to feed a cat a vegetarian diet. You can't do it. You cannot feed it a vegan diet. Like people have tried it and they killed their cat. These weird libtards tried to like give it a vegan diet. Now dogs could eat a vegan diet theoretically and survive. They won't be healthy though if you have seen pictures of them. Hey, neither will people. Yeah, no, seriously. But I've seen it was like, like leftists slamming other leftists for it's like some dog, like fed it a vegan diet, like all its hair is falling out and stuff. It's insane actually. But a cat, oh, it cannot, it doesn't have the enzymes to digest anything except animal material. Yeah. So, but, but, but God obviously changed its DNA. So I do believe that most of the laws of nature are going to stay the same in the new heaven and new earth, my speculation, but he'll make some tweaks. Like you said, you know, about the decay and so forth. So yeah. Good stuff. What about the chat? Any, any, any good questions coming from the chat or what's the word on the street in the chat? All right. We got a caller here, Nick, or we can just go to the caller. Nick, how you doing? That's usually pretty wild. Hey, how you doing? I'm doing great. I appreciate all the time you've put in and raising such a good son. Thank you. Um, um, just, I was wondering, cause I looked into the subject about two way speed of light. I've had this argument with atheists and my father who was really into astronomy also, but Jason Lyle, he proposed that maybe that speed of light, and I'm not too, you could just elaborate for me, but is that a constant in just one direction? And that's what he was elaborating on is possibly the re the way back. Yeah. Separate. Here's the thing about that. Um, you know, that's, that's something that, that people try to bring out and I feel like Jason Lyle in this case, other young earth creationists are, are just, you know, they're kind of just grasping at straws at that point in my opinion, and I don't think that it's necessary. I think that the apparent age argument makes it totally unnecessary to try to resist the speed of light being constant and try to come up with this, whoa, you know, what about the one way speed of light or whatever? There have been a lot of experiments, again, you can look this up on online experiments, uh, testing the one way speed of light and, and, and the thing is, you know, uh, they're, they're obviously, it's not as easy to prove as the two way speed of light, but it has still been proven with a lot of experiments that the one way speed of light is the same constant. Uh, it's just not as, uh, satisfying of proof for some people. But I, I feel like a lot of the young earth creationists are just grasping at straws because they want to, uh, and I'm not saying this about Jason Lyle because I'm not that familiar with him, but just in general, they just really want to prove that the, that the universe is only 6,300 years old when, you know, I don't believe you can prove that because I believe that God created an old universe 6,300 years ago, X knee hello out of nothing. So that's why I don't like the term young earth creationism because I don't believe God created a young earth. I believe he created an old earth. He just created it 6,300 years ago. Yeah. Just like he didn't create a young Adam. He created a fully mature Adam. Hey man. All right. We got a question from the chat. Uh, we got a question here since we're talking about time dilation, can pass an Anderson Solomon comment on their view of UFOs. Are they real demonic, governmental, et cetera? Um, well, here's the thing, a UFO is an unidentified flying object and I think that people have seen objects that were flying that they couldn't identify. So in that sense, I do believe in UFOs and there are all kinds of reasonable explanations for UFOs, weather balloons, lenticular clouds, fighter jets, experimental aircraft, people's imagination, people's imaginations, campfire stories, because often times you talk to these people, they didn't see it. It's, it's, they're really trustworthy friends who told them about it. They're the ones who said there's all kinds of realistic explanations that do not involve aliens or even some kind of crazy government experiments. As far as in terms of relativity, I mean, I don't really know what the tie in is. Do UFOs exist? Yeah. Are they aliens? Probably not. I know. Here's the thing. Isn't the term unidentified relative? Cause unidentified to whom? Yeah. You know, because, cause you might, here's the, okay. So we were, Solomon and I were backpacking a couple of weeks ago and when Solomon and I were backpacking, all of a sudden this bright light appeared in the sky and it was kind of freaky. You know, we're out in the middle of the desert and all of a sudden there's this bright light moving towards us and it seemed like it was really close to us and it was, we were freaking out. We were like, whoa, what is that? You know, we were laughing, but we were, we were kind of tripping out at this bright light. It was just an airplane or another one that was just a weird perspective. So here's the thing. I figured out it was an airplane. Let's say I figured it out. It was an airplane 10 seconds before he did for those 10 seconds. It's a UFO to him, but not to me. I've identified it. Yeah. It's an airplane. I don't believe in aliens. I don't believe in spaceships. I don't believe. Oh, that's the demons moving around and stuff because I already said, I believe God, angels, demons are in another nonphysical realm. So I don't believe it. So in general I would say I don't believe in UFOs. Okay. Yeah. Would be the short answer. But as Solomon said, I do believe that people saw a flying object that they couldn't. I identify. So you want to add something? No, not really. No. That's about it. All right. If, if you're into UFOs, you know, George Nori comes on in a few hours. Hey, I got, I got a personal question. Okay. Um, have you ever heard of that like idea where like you can actually see stars behind the sun? Have you ever heard anything about that? Well, see stars behind the sun. I mean, the problem with, with trying to see stars when the sun is there is that the sun's light is so bright that you end up not being able to see anything else because that's why you can only see stars when the sun goes down because you just calculate where the stars would be because the sun basically is so bright, it's going to drown everything else out. So I'm not really sure what you're referring to. I guess the idea is that you can, because like that the, that the gravity of the sun somehow bends the light, um, I'm not familiar with that, but I think you're definitely going beyond 1905. As soon as you start talking about gravity bending, uh, then, then at that point you're onto general relativity and tonight we're going to party like it's 1905. So that's as far as we're going to take, uh, our, our science. We're just, you know, like I said, even getting people to the 1600s can be a challenge. So 1905 is a very ambitious goal for tonight. Maybe someday we'll do a general relativity. Someday we'll get you to 1995, you know, maybe get you to 2005. Sounds good. You know, 20 years from now, we'll do the dark matter stream. All right. All right. We got one here. I'm not sure if it makes sense, but how can atheists and mainstream scientists believe in the big bang when nothing can go faster than the speed of light? Well they say that it's like the first off creationists have often pointed that that as a whole in their, in the arguments of the big bang, but they look at it as the space itself expanding. So it's not really traveling faster than the speed of light cause things have to travel through space and it's the space itself that is growing. But then it asks the question that begs the question growing in relation to what they don't really even understand itself. It's center I guess, but, but, but no, but if he, if he kept it, everything's relative. It's kind of a brain bender that even they will say that's a brain. Well, they don't even understand exactly what went down. But what about their, do you know about their thing on inflation? Now refresh my memory about how like at the beginning it moved at this incredible speed and then it went to a more normal speed. Yeah. Well they basically expanded itself and that like allows it because yeah, nothing can move faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, but the vacuum is still in space, three dimension. Yeah. But here's the thing. Again, that's, that's a little bit outside the scope of this broadcast. That's it. But, but, but here's, here's the big, let's talk about the elephant in the room with the big bang. Here's why the big bang makes no sense is because basically what they're saying is that the universe created itself from nothing, that it created itself without God. That's what's stupid about the big bang. Okay. The stupid thing about the big bang is, is just thinking that all this energy existed. Where did it come from? The big bang doesn't explain any, if the big bang's the origin, it doesn't really explain anything is where'd the energy come from? Where did the laws of physics come from? All of this had to have a creator. And so God in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. Okay. Now here's the thing. If you wanted to turn back the astronomical clock and that basically theoretically, hypothetically, if you wound it back, it all kind of went back to a single point of nothingness. To me, that would just point to, you know, the fact that it's ex nihilo, that God created the world out of nothing. They don't want to admit that. So they're like, well, it wasn't really nothing. It's just like a super small point, smaller than a single proton or whatever, you know, but, but why don't we just go a little smaller? Because God created it from nothing. God provided the energy. God provided the matter and God provided the laws of physics and the laws of nature. And just to be clear, I do not believe that the big bang happened. Okay. I don't believe that there's any such thing as 14 billion years ago, because I believe that God created the whole universe approximately 6,300 years ago, but that he created the whole universe 6,300 years ago, with an apparent age, where it looks like it's about 14 billion years old, and where our solar system looks like it's about 4.6 billion years old, even though it's not. And that was the whole subject of the last broadcast. If you listen to the whole last broadcast, we went into that for hours. And here's what's interesting. Isn't it interesting how, if we think of Adam being created in the prime of life, kind of like right in the middle of a lifespan, isn't it interesting that astronomers, in their theory, are saying, hey, the solar system is 4.6 billion years old, it has a lifespan of 10 billion years. So it's basically right in its prime of life, in a sense, because God created it to look like it's that old, because it's in that prime of life, as it were. That's where he chose to place it. And I would love to just go off on apparent age and explain all that again. But I don't want to be redundant with our last broadcast. So I would just refer you back to the last broadcast. That was an important concept about apparent age. And that answers these questions. All right, we got one that's kind of space related. So from South Carolina, besides God saying that it is so our heaven and hell eternal because they reside outside of time. And where do you think the lake of fire is in reference to space? Well, you know, I believe that heaven and hell are in a different realm, in the sense that I think that I don't believe that they are on the same realm as we are like when we talk about God, you know, being in heaven. Again, I believe that God and angels and demons, you know, there's another realm kind of like a sci fi, almost like in like a different dimension. Yeah, to use that you could use that term, they're in a different dimension. But if you want to if you want to kind of geek out on it, you could you could use that term. But yeah, they're they're in a different I like the word realm, because realm it means like kingdom. Yeah. And so it's it's kind of like a different realm. There's the spiritual realm. And there's the physical realm. So yeah, but you know what, that reminds me of another point that I'd like to make. Maybe you guys can cue up a phone call, while I think about another point. Think about this Solomon. So you know, we talked about earlier the the raisin bread. Yeah. The raisins that are far away moving at incredible speeds. So that basically, there are galaxies that are moving away from us, you know, that have been measured to be moving away from us at 80% of the speed of light. Okay. So think about this, Solomon, no one's ever found an end to the universe. Yeah. Okay. And it just goes on and on and on. Just billions of galaxies with billions of stars just goes on. Think about this, son. Let's just make a hypothesis here, right? That basically, the furthest stuff from us is moving at the speed of light. Okay? Because you know, if it keeps getting further away, it keeps moving faster, because the universe is expanding, then theoretically, let's just do a thought experiment, right? The furthest item is moving away from us at the speed of light. That means it would be impossible for us ever to reach the end of the universe, because the end of the universe is moving away from us at the speed of light. And since we can never travel faster than the speed of light, we could never catch up to it. So you could never reach the end of the universe, because the end of the universe keeps moving, if there is an end. Yeah. Which I do believe that theoretically, there is an end, because I believe it's expanding. And it has a boundary that no one could ever reach. Because the boundaries of the universe are moving away from us at the speed of light. And since you can't go faster than that, you can never reach the boundary. Thoughts? That makes perfect sense. So that's cool to think about though, right? Like why? And again, the Bible's right again. The Bible said that the number of stars in the sky, he compared it to the number of sand on the seashore. You could pick up a secular, worldly astronomy book, and you know what it's going to say? The number of stars in the universe could be comparable to, it's for sure at least as much as the grains of sand on the seashore. When, you know, without a telescope, you can only see a few thousand stars. On the clearest, best night, you're only going to see thousands of stars. But yet science now tells us that there are billions times billions, and even beyond that, because they don't know. They can't find the end. That's compatible with the Bible's teaching about the sand on the seashore. Yeah. So. All right. So we got one in the chat here. What do you think about black holes, asks America First. Well, that's taken us beyond 1905. So we're trying to stay within 1905. You want to just give a few thoughts on black holes though? Yeah, sure. So first off, I do believe that they exist. Yes. Sometimes people have an issue with, do you as a creationist believe that black holes exist? People who are into the big bang and that kind of stuff, they use them to, I don't know, further their theories. But the Christians that have a problem with it, isn't it kind of a different style of creationism? It's not our style of just the apparent age and just accepting what mainstream science teaches unless it directly contradicts the Bible. And there's nothing in the Bible that disproves or contradicts black holes. As far as what they are, an oversimplified version is just collapsed, extremely dense matter. When a star gets too big, it dies and all the matter is just compacted to just insanely tight levels. High density. Super high density. And the gravitational pull is so great that nothing, not even light can escape it. And that's more general relativity stuff where it's bending light and can in fact completely pull light into itself. But the point is, it's just extremely dense objects in the universe. And yeah, there's no reason why they shouldn't exist. They were predicted long before they were detected and then eventually recently photographed. So the math added up even before they started finding examples of them in the universe. And they would make sense in explaining a lot of things like, for example, our planets orbit the sun, which is a star, but our sun as one of the many stars in the galaxy is theorized to orbit a black hole at the center of the galaxy, which would make sense because it'll take a pretty big object to completely hold a galaxy together. Yeah. And a lot of galaxies are theorized to have black holes at their center. So yeah, there's no... What's the issue? Like I said, there's no issue. Like I said before, they were predicted on paper before they were even detected or found. Yeah. And black holes aren't really necessarily, they don't really have to be as weird as people have made them out to be, right? Yeah. They act like they could be portals to other parts of the universe. So there's movies involving all kinds of like, if you go inside, it's like a tesseract inside and you're seeing all this weird stuff. That's some wilder theories. Yeah. Just on the most basic level, just taking like a really just basic simplified classical approach, it's just really, really, really compressed matter that has an extremely high gravitational pull. It's just dense. There's no stuff into it. Nothing could leave it. And it just... It's a big black hole. And here's the thing. Black holes don't necessarily have any more or less matter than anything else. It's the density that makes the black hole. You could have a really small black hole or you could have a big black hole. And if you had a smaller black hole, a smaller relatively, if you had a smaller black hole, it's not going to just have some crazy amount of gravity. Like for example, if you took the earth, if all of a sudden the earth, all the matter in the earth were to be compressed to the size of a black hole, right? Sun. No, let's take the earth. Okay. Let's just say the earth were just compressed down to black hole density, right? If the earth were theoretically in a moment compressed down to black hole density, the moon would just keep orbiting the same way. The moon wouldn't just be like, whoa, it gets sucked in because of the extreme gravity of the black hole. Because the same amount of mass is there, it just got smaller and denser. Yeah. But it would be a very, very small black hole. Right. You'd measure the size of it in just like miles by the 10. I think it would be even smaller than that. Don't quote us on this because we're just doing this off the top of our head. I think if you compress the matter in the earth down to the density of a black hole, I think it'd be like a tennis ball or something. I don't know. Man, that would be crazy. I don't know though. There is an equation. I'm not sure. The term for it is like the Schwarzhold radius or whatever, where if you compress an amount of matter to this radius, black hole. And look, it might sound crazy, it might sound crazy, but here's why folks. Let's explain the fact that atoms are mostly empty space. So let's say I were to make a model of an atom where the nucleus of the atom, and again, I'm doing this off the top of my head, so forgive me if I get the numbers a little wrong. But if you made the nucleus of an atom like the size of a tennis ball, then the electron would be like hundreds of yards away or something. I think it'd be like super far. If you made the nucleus like a basketball here, the electron I think is like either tennis ball or a marble, and it's somewhere in California. No, no, no. It would be way smaller than that. The electron is way smaller than the nucleus. I'm saying compared to the basketball. No, if the basketball is the nucleus, the electron's like a speck. I mean, electrons are tiny. It's a tiny problem. Yeah, it's pretty small. We did not bone up on this. It would be like, yeah, we need to bone up on those exact relative distances. But it'd be like- There's a lot of empty space. An atom is basically like a baseball stadium with a baseball sitting in the middle of it, and the baseball's the nucleus, and the electrons are on the edge of the stadium, basically. That's really rough. Don't quote us on that. But basically, that gives you an idea that everything in atoms and in matter is filled with empty space, just like space itself. If you look at our solar system, our solar system's just empty space. You look at the asteroid belt, has millions of asteroids in the asteroid belt, but yet if you were to fly through it in a spaceship, you wouldn't be dodging asteroids and stuff. You would actually probably not even go past an asteroid. Not even one, because even though there are millions of them, it's so huge. There's so much empty space. If you fly through the asteroid belt, the probability is you're going to cruise through and you're not even going to see an asteroid. You're not even going to pass one. In fact, when they send up probes and stuff and they want to actually get photographs of, say, Ceres, you're familiar with the asteroid Ceres, if they want to get a photograph of Ceres, they have to make a point to go to it or coincide with it. Because if they didn't do any math or calculations and they just sent up a probe, they're not going to get a picture of any asteroid. That's what the probability would be, son. Because the universe is just filled with empty space, the source is a bunch of empty space, and on the atomic level, the atom is mainly empty space. So what's happening in a black hole is that basically all that empty space between the protons and the electrons is all getting crammed down to just this incredible density. That's where the empty space is coming from, right? With the empty space is going, that's where just the ability to cram what would seem like tons of solid matter into a small of a space because there's actually a lot of empty space. There's a lot of empty space to work with in every single atom. Every single atom is like 99.99999% empty space. Also you just ruined a lot of space movie scenes. Really? The asteroid thing. How? Oh yeah, like some kind of a Star Wars or something, you're like, where'd the asteroid feel? You're dodging all this stuff. But literally, the asteroid field wouldn't be like that. If you went through the Kuiper belt, the Oort cloud, the asteroid belt, you know what? You're going to be lucky to even see one asteroid way off in the distance, let alone just be like dodging them and stuff. But I've heard people bring that up, like, well, you know, if you travel beyond the asteroid belt, how are you going to get through that belt? You're going to get, you're going to get nailed. No, you're not. Unless you just have really bad luck, and then you're just like, you're just cruising to slam into the one asteroid that's anywhere near you. So all right, what do we got? We got Lindsay on the line. Let's do it. Wendy. Wendy, sorry. Hi, plaster. Hey, how you doing? Hi, plaster. Is this La Dominicana? Yes. All right. How you doing, Wendy? I have a question. I know you say about the body and the soul. You talked in the in the live, you said something about about the solving another round, right? How can you and help to you said in heaven and hell will be in another round, right? How can help being a center to I kind of just want to know, like, I don't know how my question will be. Yeah, I think I think I understand exactly what you're asking. You're asking, you know, if heaven and hell are in another realm, then why does the Bible talk about hell beneath us hell in the heart of the earth? And it talks about, you know, heaven, you could say as being, you know, beyond the farthest star. So I do believe in those locations. But it's just they're in a they're in a parallel realm. So So, for example, just like angels are on this earth, I believe that they're angels guardian angels, I believe there are demons. You can be demon possessed. So that means that that demon is physically located in that person. It's just operating on another realm, basically, but it's still there. Okay. So like, it's, you know, if someone's demon possessed, that demon is inside that person. If someone is, you know, helped out by their guardian angel, their guardian angels really there, just like where Elisha tells the servant, you know, we've got help from the Lord, and then he opens his eyes, and he can see all the heavenly hosts and everything. So these things are actually in those locations. They're just on a different realm. Okay. So So when the Bible says that hell that hell is in the heart of your and folks, I don't believe it's a coincidence that what's at the center of the earth, you know, the core, the mantle, folks at the center of the earth, the temperatures are incredibly hot, right? Thousands and thousands of degrees at the center of the earth. That's no coincidence. That's pointing us to the fact that hell is there. And God basically has created it that way, again, to manifest the nature of hell. He's, you know, he's created the planet that way to show us what hell is like, where we can see, okay, it's this place of fire, bottomless pit, because at the center, there'd be, you know, no gravity in that sense. So but here's the thing. It's not if hell were in the physical realm, anything that's down there would just instantly be burnt up, annihilated, melted down to nothing. Okay. So obviously, yeah, hell is a real place in the heart of the earth, just like angels are real, just like God is real. It's not that they're not real, it's just that they're in another realm. So hell is really in the heart of the earth. Hell is really in the center of the earth. It's just operating on a different realm. Okay. Which makes perfect sense. Otherwise, people just burn up and it'd be over pretty fast. Okay. And the same thing with heaven. You know, heaven is located out there. But it is in another realm. It's on another plane. I don't want to say another wavelength, because then people try to stick it on the electromagnetic spectrum where it doesn't belong. But it is, you know, another realm, another dimension, another plane, you know, however you want to put it. Good question, though. I was actually thinking about that earlier in the broadcast, so I'm glad I'm glad somebody asked that. It's good. I have a question in the chat from Josh Lunsford. He says, why do you think the universe is expanding? Do you think God is actively creating more right now? Or did he set up the universe up to expand by itself? He is absolutely not creating anything new, X-knee-hello, you know, on the edges. It's basically the only thing that's expanding about it is that the objects that are the furthest away are moving away from us at speeds at or approaching the speed of light. So it's the same matter and energy and objects that have been here all along. It's just that they're getting further. It's like back to the raisin bread. No raisins are added. You know, when you started baking the raisin bread, the same amount of raisins were in that bread as an hour later when you pull it out of the oven. So using that illustration, the stars are the raisins. The bread is basically the empty space, right? And so the universe is expanding. He's not like keeps making new things. It's just that the things that he already made are getting far. So basically there is a finite number of stars. Yeah. Wouldn't you agree so? Yeah, I would. And I think he created that just I think he created to expand. And the way I would see it, I think it could almost be like he wanted to just theoretically create a universe we would never outgrow. That has no boundaries. Not that we'd probably even get to the nearest star any time at all. But just in theory, we could never outgrow our universe, we could never reach the edge of it. Yes. So if the universe were not expanding, let's say the universe were not expanding, and there's a finite number of stars, then it would have an end, it would have an edge, there'd be a boundary. But because of the fact that the boundaries of the universe, quote unquote, are moving away from us at speeds at or speeds at or approaching the speed of light, that boundary is de facto, might as well not even be there, because you can't ever get there. You can't reach the boundary, so might as well not be there. So de facto, the universe is endless in that sense. But yet at the same time there, I do believe that there is a finite number of stars. I believe that God counts all the stars and he knows them all by name. That's what the Bible says. And just like there's a finite number of grains of sand on the seashore. We can't count them. We can't count the stars. It's a good point about that he knows all their names. Yeah, it's a finite number, they all have names. But in a sense, the universe is endless, because the end can never be reached or observed because it keeps moving. It's moving away from us faster than we could ever get there. That's a really cool thought. I like that. All right, so I got this one question here. Have you heard of the gospel being presented in the night sky by or through the constellations? Yes, I've heard about that. And I think that when you read up on that, the concept of the gospel and the stars, I think a lot of that is just, you could look up at the stars and you definitely see the shapes of objects. And some of the shapes are kind of a stretch and some of them, I mean, they really do look like something. Like for example, you know, in here in Tempe, every single night, I can very clearly see Canis Major, the great dog. And I mean, it really looks like a dog to me. But then again, that idea was put in my head before I ever looked at it. So I think that, you know, it's kind of one of those things where you got the Virgin Virgo. So you're just kind of kind of automatically jump in your mind to the Virgin Mary. When you hear about Leo the lion, you're going to jump to the Lion of the tribe of Judah. When you think about, you know, Draco, you're going to obviously think about the dragon, you're going to think about Satan and stuff. So I, you know, I think it's fun to basically take the star constellations and, you know, use them to tell a Bible story just just like, you know, a Sunday school teacher would use flannel graph to tell you a Bible story. You could use the stars and tell a Bible story. But do I think that, you know, the gospels in the stars and we just if we just look at the stars, we're going to get the gospel. No, you got to get the gospel through the word of God. It's going to have to be through the word, not just through you can never look at the sky and get saved. You can never just look at the sky and be like, oh, whoa, Jesus rose from the dead. Wow. Oh, man, he's born of a virgin. Well, it's all right there. Yeah. And the thing is, I mean, God created the stars, but he didn't come up with the constellations. A bunch of people looked at the stars and kind of just, well, well, hold on a second, though. Hold on a second, though. I think when he made it, he purposely made it so that there would be constellations. I mean, I could imagine that, but I mean, we might not necessarily be thinking that they are what you might not be. And I mean, it could just be pretty arbitrary because I for the longest time, even though I liked space, I never really studied the constellations as much. And to me, a few of them are pretty clear. The Big Dipper. It looks like a dipper. It's not a question. How about the big dog? The dog to the little dog is kind of a joke, but the big dog looks good. Some of these constellations, they're just kind of made up and they don't really look like their namesake, like Google air pump, if you want to know more about this. Just Google it. Google the constellation air pump. But seriously. Or how about Aries? The Ram? It's just like a line with a little line. If you had an untrained eye, just look at the night sky. It's a lot of really random stars and you could really put a lot of them together into new images. Like you could make up your own constellations. Some of them are really solid. Like Orion, you can't really mess with that one as much. But some of them are dimmer stars or they're a bunch of neck and close to each other. And I feel like many of them, if not all of them, were just people just drawing pictures in the stars and then other people making a connection to Bible stories about the lion or a virgin. Because the Bible talks about everything, so you can easily make it fit. So we tend to think that it's just more like, hey, this is a fun way to give the gospel. But I will say this. You know, the Bible mentions some of the constellations, which is pretty interesting. Like, for example, let's talk about the constellations that are mentioned. Arcturus. Well, Arcturus, I'm not 100 percent convinced. I've studied this and tried to figure out, is Arcturus referring to the star Arcturus or is it referring to the bear constellation? It's hard to say. It would be almost more just the star, the star in modern times. When you say Arcturus, you're talking about one star. It's a it's a star that appears reddish, by the way. So in Tempe, Arizona, around evening time right now, one reddish star you're going to see is Betelgeuse in the constellation Orion. And on the opposite side, you'll see that shortly after sunset in the west and then in the east, you'll see Arcturus as a red star in the east. Arcturus is part of the constellation Boötes, or the herdsman. It's hard to see the herdsman from Tempe because of the light pollution, but you can see the star Arcturus. But it's coming from the ancient Greek word arkos, which means bear, where we get the word arctic. It's where bears live. Yeah. Arctic Circle, the one with bears, OK, Antarctic, the opposite of the one with the bears. So the polar bears are in the North Pole. So basically, Arcturus, it is related to the word bear in the Greek, and so therefore it could be referring to Ursa Major, the bear constellation, which contains the Big Dipper, or it could be referring to the star Arcturus. I'm not 100 percent convinced which one the Bible is actually referring to there. But the Hebrew word is, I believe the Hebrew word for Arcturus, I want to say it's Aish. So for what that's worth, and then there's, what else is mentioned in the Bible? I believe it mentions Orion. Orion, yeah. Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades or loose the bands of Orion? So Orion is mentioned in the Bible. The Hebrew word is kasil, which usually the Hebrew word kasil means fool, but it can also mean like a brute, and it can also mean like a giant. So it's like this big, kind of a big, this big hunter, like ooga booga hunter, you know. He's just kind of a, so yeah, that's what it's called in Hebrew, kasil. That's Orion, the hunter, kind of the big burly brute giant. It doesn't necessarily mean he's dumb. It's not saying he's dumb. I'm just telling you how, where the, how these words are connected. You know, you can, you can picture a big brute and you can see how a giant and an idiot could eventually like mean the same thing. I don't think that was politically correct. I'm just saying, you know, you can see, you know, like Andre the giant just doesn't really come off as, you know, understanding special relativity. But anyway, I'm just saying, I'm not saying he's, maybe he's real smart. I don't know. But I'm just telling you the etymology of the, the Hebrew word underlying the constellation Orion. And then another constellation mentioned Pleiades. The Hebrew word is kima, which means like a pile or a heap. And that makes sense because it's basically like a cluster. The seven sisters, the seven stars. So that, that cluster or that heap, kima. So the Bible mentions Pleiades, Orion, Arcturus. I think that's it. Right? I can't think of any other. Yeah. I think that those are the three constellation. So it's either two constellations and a star or it's three constellations. So but you know, the great bear, you know, if you wanted to call that or maybe it used to be called Arcturus, we don't know for sure, but Ursa Major, the great bear, you know, for a bear, it kind of has an incredibly long tail. So that's not really anatomically correct. So it could really be a different animal with a long tail. But you know, what's interesting though, is that all over the world, even though you could really look at it and make it any four legged beast, and especially if you picked one with a longer tail, it'd probably make more sense. But yet the native Americans, Aborigines, Australia, Europe, Middle East, China, all over the world. It's considered in many. Now, there are other interpretations for it. But the bear motif is found all over the world. So it goes back to the Tower of Babel. The oldest like a beaver in the sky or something has to be a cool animal. Yeah, but there are some kind of beaver like animals up there, aren't there? I mean, aren't some of the constellations named after I mean, but that one's too cool to be a beaver. It's a pretty cool one. Most of them are animals of some serious flavor, like a dragon or a crab or a scorpion. Yeah, it's well. The Great Bear is the number one most famous constellation. Yeah. Because it's the one thing everybody identifies the Big Dipper and the Big Dipper is part of the Great Bear. And like I said, it's the it's one constellation that it's all over the globe. Yeah. That it's considered a bear. So it's pretty interesting. All right. We got a caller here. Jake. Hey. How you doing, Jake? Can you guys hear me? Yep. Jake, we can hear you. Yeah. Actually, I'm under shade, actually, but, you know, I had a question about the speed of light. OK. I really don't understand how well you guys can hear me, right? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Go for it. OK. I really don't understand how the nothing faster than light will work, but the reason people say that you can't move faster than light is because we're made of math. And when we move, we produce energy. The faster you move, more energy you need. So the reason they say you can't move faster than light is because you need infinite energy. But what that that makes no sense to me because the speed of light is limited. Light only moves at one hundred and eighty six thousand miles per second. So why do you need infinite energy to move at a limited speed? So that whole nothing faster than light will make no sense. Well, here's the thing. You know, you're you're giving a certain explanation for why things can't move at beyond the speed of light. There are other explanations for why things can't move at or beyond the speed of light that you might find more satisfying. So let me give you some other explanations of why nothing can move at or beyond the speed of light that might be more satisfying to you, hopefully. How about the fact that if we plug in the the speed to the Lorentz factor equation and calculate the time dilation, something that's traveling at the speed of light is not experiencing any time at all. So how can you go faster than that? If we plug in the Lorentz factor for the length contraction traveling at the speed of light, you know, you're experiencing no distance. How can you go faster than instantly being there and you've gone zero distance? You can't. How can you go beyond that? It doesn't make any sense. And obviously, you know, when you're accelerating to the speed of light, it keeps taking more and more energy to get there. So that's what you're bringing up, the fact that it takes more and more energy and eventually you just need this infinite or incredible amount of energy. But if you don't find that satisfying, then just think about it from the Lorentz factor perspective. Solomon, what do you got? I was going to bring up from with the same thing that because of the time dilation, there are other limiting factors besides just the energy that would stop you from breaking the speed of light. Pretty much what you just brought up. All right, cool. So hopefully you find that to be a more satisfying answer. And there are other answers. I mean, that people have. There's a lot of material that you could read or look into on this where people have explained all the different theoretical reasons why you can't surpass the speed of light. Here's the thing. You only have to accept one of them. If there's one proof of this is why you can't exceed the speed of light, it only takes one and there are several. But pick the one you like and it still proves the same thing. Speed of light is the upper limit. All right. We got Rico from Cali. You're on Rico. Rico. Hi, I'll go pass your answer. Going good. Hey, I'll be going pass your answer. It's going great. Doing good. Doing good. So I have a question though. I'm actually a Christian. I'm a believer. But a lot of people bring up the argument where they say God created the sun on one day and then created light on another day. So I'm like that's I don't know how to counter that. I don't know how to respond to that. So I'm kind of stuck. Okay. So let me let me let me see if I can help out with this. And again, this is probably another question that we did a better job of answering maybe a couple weeks ago where we went into great detail on a parent age and the astronomy creation in the Bible broadcast. But let me put it to you this way, because we address that issue a lot in that broadcast. But let me put it to you this way. Let's say I'm writing a book, right? And in chapter one of the book, I introduce a character called Solomon. Okay. So I introduced Solomon Anderson in chapter one of the book. And then Solomon's having different adventures in chapter two and chapter three. He's meeting different characters, interacting with different characters. And then let's say in chapter four of the book, Solomon goes and visits his dad, Pastor Anderson, and he goes to Thanksgiving with Pastor Anderson. And we're introduced to his brothers and sisters and his mom and dad. Well, here's the thing. Obviously, Solomon is the product of his mom and dad. But yet, the author didn't create mom and dad until chapter four of the book. He created the character Solomon in chapter one of the book. He created mom and dad in chapter four, even though Solomon's a product of mom and dad. Okay. So basically, when God created the heaven and the earth on day one, he hasn't created the sun, moon and stars yet. Okay. So he creates the earth on day one. He creates the atmosphere and the water on day two. On day three, he creates the dry land and the plant life. And then on day four, he creates the sun, moon and stars. And you say, well, then how can the earth be traveling around the sun if the sun's not created till day four? And that's the same thing of saying like, well, how in the world could these people in or forget chapter four. Let's say it's four books in a series and we don't meet Solomon's parents until book four of the series. Well, how can Solomon have been produced by these people that weren't even created until book four? That's basically the same question you're asking when you say, well, how can, you know, the light exists before the sun when the sun is what produced the light? Well, the parents are what produced Solomon, but they're not created till book four of the series. So you know, God is creating things in a sequence in Genesis one. And that is the literal. I believe that it's a literal account. I believe literally on day one, that's what God created. He literally created that on day two, literally created on day three. But when he's all done with everything, everything's interrelated. Just like when the seven book series comes out, you could relate, Oh, Solomon, well, that's Pastor Anderson's son, even if they're just fictional characters. So do you see what I'm saying? Solomon? Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. While we're on the subject of books, actually, I got a really good question from the chat Oh, it's, um, like, what books would you recommend, or references or textbooks that you use studying the subject? You know, I don't, I don't really want to recommend a particular book, I don't really have a particular book that I would recommend. I've read lots of books on the subject. And I've listened to lectures, and I've, you know, done some of that I've listened to, there's an audio program on the great courses, where you can listen to an audio lecture on I believe it's called Einstein's relativity and the quantum revolution. So that's, that's pretty good. And obviously, you know, you're never going to agree with every word of anything. Any book is going to have things that are not right. So you know, I don't, I don't want to point to a particular book. Here's something that's funny, though. So when I was growing up, I used to go to my grandparents house a lot. And we loved going up to our grandparents house. And you know, there's just certain things that you remember when you're a kid. And in my grandparents house, this is my my grandpa's name was Dick Tackaberry is a retired police lieutenant from LAPD. And they lived up in the woods, we'd go to their house, it was so fun, we go play in the woods, hang out. Well, when you went to their bathroom, it was always funny that on the back of the toilet, for like the whole 20 years of me growing up going to their house, there was a book on Einstein's theory of relativity sitting on the back of the toilet. And I always thought that was so funny that that was the reading material at their house. So I actually as a kid tried to read that book a bunch of times. And at the time, I kind of just went over my head. But you know what, that's when the seeds were planted for the theory of relativity in my in my young mind. But anyway, yeah, I used to look at that book. I just thought that was funny that it was sitting on the back of the toilet. But I think it's, it's getting kind of late. We're kind of winding down here, I think. Because any last questions? Anything else? Yeah, actually. Let's. Oops. Sorry. All right. So I got a question here from Jared. He's actually from Phoenix. All right. Jared, how you doing? Doing good. How y'all doing? Great. So my question is, and I missed part of the show, but I did catch the beginning, I missed some of the calls. But when you put the diagram up that you created with the airplane, right, and then the observer. Uh huh. So I was with you all all the way till the end. Okay. Where from the planes, from the planes perspective, after the nanosecond, or whatever that time duration that we had, that the light had traveled past the observer. Okay, cool. Let's explain that one more time. So do you have an exact issue or do you want me to just explain it again? I think I do. I know where it's not computing with me. Where is it not computing with you? So if the light is traveling at a constant rate and it leaves the airplane at that point that you started, that's the point where it leaves. It's going to travel a certain distance, you know, and it doesn't depend on where you're observing it from. It's going to be at a certain place in a certain time after that nanosecond. Well that's, see that's... Whether you're observing it from... But that's where you're wrong, because here's the thing. The speed, this is the special relativity in a nutshell. If we could just put, if we wanted to write special relativity on the back of a postage stamp, this is what we would write. The speed of light is constant with respect to any observer in uniform motion, regardless of the speed of the source of the light. So let's throw the diagram back up there and see if we can help with this objection here. So here's the diagram, okay? So what he's saying is, hey look, 100 nanoseconds later, that light leaves the plane, it's in a certain spot. Whereas the diagram shows from the person's perspective, you know, it's there at his face, but from the plane's perspective it's a little further. Now here's the thing, let's say for a moment that we were going to go with what Jared's saying and say, nope, after 100 nanoseconds, that's where it's at. And let's put the beam of light on the, let's say the bottom picture, we put the light appearing at the person's face just like in the one above it. Let's say both of them showed the same thing. Well then that would mean that there would be less than 100 feet between the plane and where the light arrived 100 nanoseconds later. So the problem with your logic is that if the light is just getting to the person's face 100 nanoseconds later from the plane's perspective, then that would mean that it traveled only 100 feet minus that little bit of distance, less than 100 feet, and if it traveled less than 100 feet in 100 nanoseconds, then it wasn't going one foot per nanosecond. Then it wasn't traveling at the speed of light, it was traveling at less than the speed of light. And here's the thing, it had, the speed of light has to be constant from the plane's perspective and from the observer's perspective. So here's the thing, if I'm on the plane 100 nanoseconds later, that light has to be 100 feet from me. And if it's not 100 feet from me, it was not traveling at one foot per nanosecond with respect to me, and it has to be traveling at one foot per nanosecond with respect to me. You want to take a stab at it? Diagram back up, please. I think what's really important to understand when you're trying to process this is that the bottom two things are not happening at the same time. It says 100 nanoseconds later, but the top one is 100 nanoseconds for the person later, and the bottom is 100 nanoseconds for the plane later, and the 100 nanoseconds from the person's perspective happens before 100 nanoseconds later from the plane's perspective. So when that guy sees the light in the top picture, the plane's only had, say, 90, 95, however many nanoseconds. Well, no, no, no. It's Sun. Whoa. Whoa there, buddy. This is more than 99. This is 99.999. It's a fraction less. Okay. Yeah. It'd be way smaller. You're right. But the point is the plane has not experienced all 100 nanoseconds from its perspective when the person has. The two bottom images are not happening simultaneously. It's 100 nanoseconds from each observer. That's a great point. I'm really glad you brought that up, Solomon, because I think that's going to help a lot of people. Yeah, because I think a lot of people are getting hung up on that because it shows us this big line where it's like before, after, but 100 nanoseconds later, there is no one definition of what 100 nanoseconds is. You just nailed it. It's defined. You just nailed the chart. So I'm really glad that Solomon said that because I think that it's really going to help. So if you put it back on the screen, these two, the two bottom events are not happening at the same time. That's actually listed in chronological order if you look at it. Yeah, because 100 nanoseconds later for the person is different than 100 nanoseconds later for the plane. The light's in two different places because two different amounts of time have gone by. Does that help, Jared? Yeah, that helps. That's where the time dilation. Yeah, it's a different time. Yeah, exactly. It's a different time than is the light in action. I mean, the light actually exists at a certain point in time from like a third party observer. If I was observing this event take place as I see it on the diagram. Yeah, but there's no, no, no, because there's no such, there's no such third party observer place where you could objectively look at this. Wherever you look at it, you're looking at it from a certain perspective. And if you look at it from the plane's perspective, you're going to get a different result than looking at it from on the ground from the person. So your mind is rebelling against this basically go and put the diagram back on the screen. But basically your mind's rebelling against this because you're like, well, yeah, but which one's true? Like which one's the real one? And that's why at the beginning of this broadcast, I hammered points one and two that every location where you're moving or every, every frame of reference where you're moving in uniform motion is equally valid. So it's not that the person's perspective is the real hundred nanoseconds or the plane. They're both just as real. And if you say, well, what about just from a third party person looking at the chart that doesn't exist. Every perspective is in uniform motion and they're going to have a unique perspective. And so there is no absolute, yeah, but what is it? What time was it really? Where was it really doesn't exist. It's all relative. Now, I will say one thing. You're right that the light can't be in two different places at once. But what it is is that, yeah, the light is only one given place at once. But at that point, then your time readings are going to be different. Like I was saying where you're right, the light isn't both at the person's face and behind it at the same time when it's at the person's face, the person's clock says a hundred nanoseconds of past, but the plane's clock says less than a hundred nanoseconds of past. Whereas when the light only one place, once it's measured behind the person's head from whatever hypothetical third party, whatever the plane's clock would say a hundred nanoseconds, the person's clock says more than a hundred nanoseconds, a hair more again, those two images are not happening simultaneously. You're right. The light can only exist in one place. Those two images are assuming the same amount of measured time from each location. From each perspective? Yeah, from each perspective, which would therefore render two different locations of the light. All right. Let's check with Jared. Once you're on the- Jared, how are you feeling? Are you grasping it? Yeah, that seems like the piece of information that was missing is that it's two different. I was thinking that those two bottom lines were happening at the same time. Well that's a great question. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly. Yeah. No, I'm glad you brought this up because I bet a lot of people at home were struggling with the same thing. So that's a perfect question. All right. Cool. Thanks for giving me your feedback. Good answer, Solomon. You actually saved us on that one. Good job. All right. Well, you know what? I'm glad that we didn't shut down the broadcast before that question because I bet a lot of people probably needed that and I'm glad that Solomon explained it in a different way than I did. Because, you know, different people understand things in a different way. So that's why it's good that both Solomon and I are here. We can kind of give different perspectives and stuff. So I think we're ready to call it a day. Is there any last burning question that we need to address? I think that was the burning question that we needed to address. Good place to end. I mean, we have a caller if you want to just take it. Okay. This is the last of the Mohicans. Final call. How you doing? Last question. In this day and age, how do you stay true to your values regarding morality? Because when you turn on YouTube, even when you turn on something like YouTube, you go to a trending page, it's sin, sin, sin, sin. It's all garbage. I mean, even recommending videos that you can click on is something to do with sin and generous garbage. So how do you avoid stuff like that? Even looking at stuff like that, how do you avoid the temptations in this day and age? Because virtually everywhere you look, it's not good. Well, basically, you know what, obviously, that's the challenge of the Christian life. That's the million dollar question. You know, here's a good starting place. Don't go to the trending plays on YouTube because so much junk is garbage. But anyway, that's got nothing to do with astronomy, nothing to do with relativity. We didn't scream that call. Nothing to do with the speed of light, nothing to do with anything. But you know, in another context, it would have been a great question. Just, you know, hey, how do you stay pure? How do you keep your mind pure? How do you live a moral life? You know what? God said that He didn't want to take us out of the world, but He wanted to keep us from the evil. So you know what? We've just got to walk in the Spirit and you'll not fulfill the lust of the flesh. You got to read your Bible, you got to pray, you got to go to church, you got to put on the new man. And all right, whoa, we just experienced some strange phenomenon there. All right, God bless you. Thank you so much for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed the broadcast that, you know, you may have to go back and re-listen to some of this because it was pretty dense with material. Thank you, Solomon, for contributing so well. God bless you at home and have a great day. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you.