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Hello everybody, it's minister tall23 back in the video. Before I get into this video I just want to do a quick sound check to make sure that the sound is working. Alright so it is working. Alright let's get into this video. So in this video I'm going to be talking about the subject of the rapture and what the scriptures say concerning the end times. This is a question which some people who are subscribed to this channel have asked me and which I've talked about in brief in videos that I've made in the past but I want to make a full video to clear up the issue to explain this doctrine and explain what the Bible says about the end times. So when is the rapture according to the scriptures? Is the rapture before the tribulation or is it after the tribulation? Many people believe in the doctrine of the pre-tribulation rapture that is that the rapture will take place before the tribulation and many of them are really dogmatic about it. But in reality it's simply not what the scriptures teach and I know that for some odd reason this is a really sensitive issue to a lot of people out there. My guess is because they're scared and they don't want to face the harsh reality that we might have to go through the tribulation. But today I'm going to prove to you from the Bible that is what is actually written in the scriptures using the King James Bible and not man's word, not theological jargon and nonsense based off of philosophy and no clear verse or passage. I'm going to use the scriptures and just show you what the Bible says. Instead of being offended about it or getting upset over this matter, how about you consider what the facts actually are and what the Bible actually says as presented today. I'm going to start off by laying out the biblical evidence that the rapture will take place actually after the tribulation and then after that I'm going to address the common arguments made for the pre-tribulation rapture. Now I have a lot of notes for this so this might be split into a two-part video. I think today I'm just going to talk about the main arguments for the post-tribulation rapture and tomorrow I'm going to talk about the objections made to that. So I ask that you desist from trying to argue in the chat in this video until I've gotten to the part addressing the scripture twisting of those who hold to the pre-trib rapture because I've made videos like this before or of this nature where I said that I believe that the rapture is after the tribulation and people post verses and they try to argue with me but like I said I'm going to address all the common objections in the following video so just wait for that because I don't want to go off on a rant today and you're not going to get your question answered if you ask a question in the chat that's trying to argue with me. So the first argument concerns the main passages about the rapture. Everybody agrees that 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 is the rapture. In fact that's where the word rapture comes from. You'll never find the word rapture used in the Bible but you will find the phrase caught up which in Latin is rapturo which is where we get the theological term of rapture. Everybody agrees that this following passage is a description of what is known as the rapture in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 14 and 17 it says for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again even so them also which believe in Jesus will God bring with him for this we say unto you by the word of the Lord that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with a voice of an archangel with the trump of God and the dead and Christ shall rise first then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. So here we see a description of an event which the Lord comes in the clouds with clouds of heaven a trumpet sounds the dead are raised followed by the rapture or process of being caught up into the air of all believers which are alive and remain. So every Christian who has ever fallen asleep in Christ every Christian who has ever died who is now in heaven will be raised first at this time of the rapture that's why it says them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him in verse 14 so the souls of the saved will be brought with Jesus that is coming and they're put into a new body that's raised up incorruptible and immortal as explained in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 then the changing of the alive believer will take place we're changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye as it says in 1 Corinthians 15 51 so that's basically what the rapture is now the question is when is it could happen in any moment or are there specific prophetic events which much must take place beforehand such as the tribulation does the tribulation begin with the rapture or does it end with the rapture well I believe the latter that it ends with the rapture because of what is written in Matthew chapter 24 it says in the after the tribulation of those days followed by a description of the rapture in verse 30 and very 31 how the issue is that those who hold to a pre tribulation pre tribulation rapture will say well that's not the rapture that's the second coming of Christ now what they'll do is make a distinction between these two events they say that the coming of Christ is a later event and not the rapture Jesus the sermon in Matthew 24 was prompted by the question of his disciples in verse 3 they said what shall be the sign of thy coming so Jesus answered the question of his disciples and he began to talk about the abomination of desolation the Great Tribulation the false Christ and the darkening of the Sun and moon and the stars falling to heaven falling from heaven prior to his coming in the clouds now according to the pre-tribbers this is not the rapture of first Thessalonians 4 instead according to them it's referring to what happens in Revelation chapter 19 when Jesus comes on the white horse at Armageddon they call that the second coming of Christ now there's a few problems with the with that interpretation first of all it clearly says in first Thessalonians chapter 4 of his verse 15 that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep so the event which is known as the rapture in first Thessalonians 4 is also called in that very same passage the coming of the Lord just as it is in Matthew 24 yet the pre-tribbers claimed that the rapture is not the same thing as a second coming that it's not the coming of Christ they say that revelation 19 is the second coming well not according to the Bible according to the Bible the descent of Christ from heaven and first Thessalonians 4 at the time of the rapture is the coming of the Lord so the first and main reason why the post-tribulation rapture is the truth as opposed to the pre-tribulation rapture is that first Thessalonians 4 and Matthew 24 are almost identical in their description while revelation 19 does not fit Matthew 24 at all as the pre-tribbers say it does let's read Matthew 24 it says in verse 29 to 31 immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the Sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heaven shall be shaken and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory and he shall send his angels with the great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other now I encourage you to write these scriptures down maybe on a note card or something like that or in some kind of table on on your computer or whatever and put them side by side first Thessalonians 4 14 to 17 Matthew 24 29 to 31 Revelation 19 11 to 21 and then also revelation 6 verse 12 to 17 which we'll talk about a bit later but anybody who isn't blinded by that which is crammed down their throat is going to conclude by a simple comparison of spiritual with spiritual as the scriptures tell us to do that the one passage out of those four which does not fit is revelation 19 if you think Matthew 24 is not the same event as first Thessalonians 4 then I have to conclude that you just don't know how to read because both of them are called the coming of the Lord both involve Jesus Christ descending from heaven both involve the blowing of a trumpet and both involve the gathering of believers it baffles my mind how anybody could conclude that Matthew 24 29 to 31 is not the same thing as first Thessalonians 4 it's the exact same thing a trumpet sounds Jesus descends from heaven in the clouds and believers are gathered together into heaven it's the same exact thing where does it describe any of that in Revelation 19 Revelation 19 does not compare at all with Matthew 24 let's read the the passage in question here in verse 11 to verse 21 of Revelation 19 it says and I saw heaven opened and behold the white horse and he that sat upon him was called faithful and true and in righteousness he doth judge and make war his eyes were as a flame of fire and on his head were many crowns and he had a name written that no man knew but he himself and he was clothed with a fester dipped in blood and his name is called the Word of God and the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses clothed in fine linen white and clean and out of his mouth go with a sharp sword that with it he should smite the nations and he shall rule them with the rod of iron and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God and he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written King of Kings and Lord of Lords and I saw an angel standing in the Sun and he cried with a loud voice saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of captains and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of them that sit on them and of the flesh of all men both bond free and bond both small and great and I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse and against his army and the beast was taken and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him with which he deceived them that it received the mark of the beast and then that works of his image these both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone and the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse which sword proceeded out of his mouth and all the fowls were filled with their flesh now what are the similarities between Matthew 24 and Revelation 19 the only one is that Christ appears in heaven but pay attention to the other details does Matthew 24 talk about a trumpet yes does revelation 19 talk about a trumpet no does Matthew 24 talk about the gathering of the elect yes does revelation 19 no does Matthew 24 call the event the coming of the Lord yes does revelation 19 even use the word come or coming or cometh no except when the angel says unto the fowls to gather themselves unto the supper of the great God that's the only time the word appears in the whole chapter now reversely does revelation 19 talk about the destruction of the beast and the false prophet in the Battle of Armageddon yes does Matthew 24 no I mean you have to be completely blind to say that these two passages are talking about the same event there's no similarities at all they're not even close well first Thessalonians 4 and Matthew 24 are indeed parallel passages so the rapture or the coming of the Lord as it's also called in first Thessalonians 4 is the same thing as Matthew 24 so therefore the rapture takes place according to Matthew 24 29 immediately after the tribulation of those days but further questions may arise about what Matthew 24 is describing even though it's pretty clear already but I want to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the rapture is after the tribulation of those days remember the issue of the coming of the Lord that Matthew 24 is about the disciples question about the signs of his coming in verse 3 and Jesus finally answers their question by concluding with saying and they shall see this son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory now when does that take place after the tribulation and the pre-tribbers will say that they agree with that but simply conclude that this coming of the Lord is not the same thing as the rapture they'll say is revelation 19 with no evidence whatsoever besides the fact that there's no comparison between those two chapters at all there's numerous other issues first I'd like to point out that the coming of the Lord is referred to as an imminent event in the scriptures as well for example in James chapter 5 verse 7 8 it says be patient therefore brethren unto the coming of the Lord behold the husband when waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth and hath long patience for it until you receive the early and latter rain be also patient establish your hearts for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh now verses like this are used by pre-tribbers in order to defend the preacher rapture but hold on it says coming of the Lord the coming of the Lord draweth nigh so we see one of the examples many examples of the mental gymnastics that are used by pre-tribbers in a vain attempt to prove their doctrine they claim that revelation 19 is the second coming and Matthew 24 is also the second coming but it's not the rapture but the passage about the rapture in first Thessalonians 4 also calls it the coming of the Lord and here in James 5 it says that the coming of the Lord draweth nigh and they'll use this to say that the rapture can take place at any moment so the coming of the Lord Matthew 24 to 39 to 31 or 29 Matthew 24 29 to 31 according to them it's not the rapture but the coming of the Lord in first Thessalonians 4 that is the rapture and so is the coming of the Lord in James 5 it's mental gymnastics it's mind games it's word games okay they don't believe what the Bible actually says in this matter here's another problem it says in Matthew 24 verse 42 to 46 watch therefore for you know not what hour your Lord doth come but know this that if the good men of the house had known and what watch the thief would come he would have watched and would have suffered his house to be broken up therefore be he also ready for in such an hour as you think not the son of man cometh who then is a faithful and wise servant whom is Lord have made ruler his household to give the meat in due season plus it is that servant whom is Lord when he cometh shall find so doing now this is another passage used by pre-tribbers to defend the pre-tribulation rapture and this is again in Matthew 24 so just a few verses earlier when Jesus spoke about the coming of the Lord it's not the rapture according to them but then all of a sudden the coming of the Lord is the rapture just a few verses later it's the same chapter it's talking about the same thing but all of a sudden it's talking about the rapture so that's what I mean about mental gymnastics they just pick and choose which one is referring to the rapture and which ones referring to revelation 19 even if it's in the same chapter even though they're called the exact same thing it's the coming of the Son of Man the coming of the Lord it's the same exact event they'll say it's a different event when it's the same passage and it says the same thing about both of them that doesn't make any sense now the poster position is actually consistent the coming of the Lord is the rapture and it takes place immediately after the tribulation of those days as it says in Matthew 24 29 so even here in verse 42 and 46 it's still talking about the same event as it was a few verses earlier I'll talk about this passage and the some verses before that a little bit later when I get to the objections now another reason why I believe that the rapture takes place after the tribulation is again based on Matthew 24 the preachers will say oh that's talking to the Jews when it says the elect will be gathered it's not talking about Christian that's not talking about believers or the church so they distinguish between the rapture of the non-existent universal church and Israel or the Jews which they claim go through the tribulation while the Christians will not now it is written in Mark chapter 13 verse 20 this is a parallel passage in Matthew 24 and except that the Lord had shortened those days no flesh should be saved but for the elect's sake whom he hath chosen he has shortened the days so we know two things about the elect during the tribulation that they are on the earth during the tribulation that the tribulation is cut short for the elect's sake and also that the coming of the Lord in heaven gathers the elect together unto him here it also defines clearly what the word elect means it's written of the elect's sake whom he hath chosen because that's what the word elect means chosen when we elect a president of the United States that means we choose him to be the president United States what are they chosen for well if we just look up every New Testament use of the word elect it's clear that the elect are saved people and nobody has a problem with that doctrine with that idea until we start discussing excatology then all of a sudden elect is no longer believers but all of a sudden it's just now the Jews but what does the Bible say it says in Romans 8 33 who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect it is God that justifieth those who are justified are those who are liked by God in the very next verse he states that Christ being risen again and being at the right hand of God and maketh intercession for us so no charge can be made against us because we are justified of God and made intercession for and he calls us the elect are the elect the unsaved Jews no just a few chapters later in the book of Romans it's written in chapter 11 verse 5 to 7 even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace and if by grace there is no more works otherwise grace is no more grace but if be of works there is no more grace otherwise work is no more work what then Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for but the election hath obtained it and the rest were blinded O'Hare the distinction is evident in Israel there is a remnant according to the election of grace verse 7 clearly says that Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for but the election hath obtained it so is Israel itself the election no the election is the remnant of Israel which believed and are thus given grace but the rest of the nation which rejected Christ were blinded according to the scriptures so they are not the elect here's another clear verse Colossians chapter 3 verse 12 put on therefore as the elect of God holy and beloved vows of mercies kindness humbleness of mind meekness longsuffering so he's calling the audience the elect of God and this is written to the church at Colossae so those are Gentile believers these are Christians not Jews first Thessalonians chapter 1 verse 3 to 4 remembering without seizing your work of faith and labor of love and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ and the sight of God and our Father knowing brethren beloved your election of God again he's writing to Gentile believers at a Gentile church in Thessalonica and saying unto them that they are the elect of God here's another clear verse Titus 1 1 Paul a servant of God and apostle of Jesus Christ according to the faith of God's elect and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness with somebody who does not believe the elect of God no the elect are believers people who have received grace from God through faith there's a Christians not Jews that's basic doctrine in the scriptures and there's many other examples of the word of elect in the Bible but I think you get the point the elect are Christians and Jesus clearly says in Matthew 24 that after the tribulation of those days that's when the Son of Man will descend from heaven and the angels will be sent to gather the elect not the Jews the Christians the elect Jesus clearly says also in mark 13 that the tribulation will be shortened for the elect's sake that means the elect are upon the earth why would he say that why would he say that if the elect had nothing to worry about if they would just be raptured up into heaven before the tribulation even began that doesn't make any sense because the event described in Matthew 24 29 to 31 is the rapture that's why it's the time when Jesus appears in the cloud to gather the saved the elect the believers in Christ just as it describes in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 when again the Lord descends from heaven with the trump of God and those dead in Christ and those which are alive and remain are caught up into heaven it's the same exact event so the next reason why I believe that the rapture is after the tribulation is because of that which is written within the book of Revelation in comparison once again to Matthew 24 Matthew 24 describes the Sun and the moon being darkened and the stars falling from heaven followed by the coming of Christ in the clouds in Revelation chapter 6 the Sun and the moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven and in the next chapter a great multitude appears in heaven which came out of great tribulation in Matthew 24 verse 29 it says immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the Sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the star shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken but what is taking place here well after the tribulation the Sun is darkened then the moon is darkened the false the stars fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken now just in case you missed it when does this take place it says immediately after the tribulation now remember the pre-tribbers claim that this is talking about revelation 19 and they claim based on no biblical evidence whatsoever that the tribulation lasts for seven years but the problem with that is that the only place in the book of Revelation where these events are described is in Revelation 6 before the long before the seven years are over says in Revelation 6 verse 12 to 17 and I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake and the Sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became his blood and the stars of heaven fell into the earth even as a fig tree cast at her untimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty wind and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain and island were moved out of their places and the kings of the earth and the great men and the rich men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bond man and every free man hid themselves in the dens of the rocks of the mountains and said to the mountains and rocks fall on us and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb for the great day of his wrath has come and who shall be able to stand so the exact same thing happens in Revelation 6 as is promised by Jesus in Matthew 24 the Sun and the moon are darkened the stars in heaven fall the heaven and the earth shake and all people of the earth run away in fear of the wrath of God to come saying hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne that would be an odd thing to say if Jesus doesn't appear for another few years or if he already did appear but we see exactly why they say this in the very next chapter in Revelation chapter 7 verse 9 to 14 after this I beheld and lo a great multitude which no man could number of all nations and kindreds and people and tongues stood before the throne and before the lamb clothed with white robes and palms in their hands and cried with a loud voice saying salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne and unto the lamb and all the angels stood round about the throne and about the elders and the four beasts and fell before the throne on their faces and worship God saying Amen blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be unto our God forever and ever Amen and one of the elders answered saying unto me what are these which are arrayed and white robes and whence came they and I said unto him sir thou knowest and he said to me these are they which came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb okay so what's the order here all the way back in Revelation 6 and 7 before the wrath of God is poured out upon the earth long before Armageddon long before Revelation 19 and the so-called second coming of the pre-tribbers the Sun and the moon are darkened the stars fall from heaven the people of the earth hide from the face of God and then in the next chapter all the sudden a great multitude which no man could number of all peoples suddenly appears in heaven which according to the elder in verse 14 are they which came out of great tribulation it says they've washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb so these are Christians these are people saved by the blood of Christ who came out of great tribulation right after the signs in heaven which Christ promised would take place after the tribulation this is the same event as Matthew 24 revelation 19 has nothing to do with Matthew 24 but revelation 6 does and this is again after the tribulation this is after the four seals of conquests and war and famine and death and the fifth seal in which the martyrs cry to have their blood avenged upon the earth just put Matthew 24 and revelation 6 side by side and tell me that it's not the same thing the events line up perfectly and once again prove that the rapture and the second coming of Christ are the same thing and they take place after the tribulation in Revelation 6 and 7 now the next piece of evidence is from a statement in Luke 21 which is a parallel to Matthew 24 in Luke 21 it indicates that the redemption of the believers is at the time of Christ's second coming it says in Luke 21 verse 27 to 28 and then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory and when these things begin to come to pass then look up and lift up your heads for your redemption draweth nigh so Christ says the Son of man is coming in the clouds with power and great glory when is this after the tribulation according to mark 13 and Matthew 24 he then instructs his disciples look up and lift your heads for your redemption draweth nigh but then they'll again say oh well that's just talking to the deuce but hold on we already proved earlier that the subject of the chapter is not the Jews but the elect which are saved people not Jews believe that's believers in Christ but even if you just look at the audience to whom Jesus is speaking in Matthew 24 verse 3 if you read that verse the disciples are the ones who ask him privately it says that they came up to him and what and they asked what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world so they asked him that question well the disciples weren't all Jews or even Israelites in fact Simon's Elodie is according to Matthew 10 for and mark 3 verse 18 was a Canaanite not a Jew he says your redemption draweth nigh when speaking to his disciples which includes a believer who isn't an Israelite not only that but he says at the end of mark chapter 13 which is again a parallel passage to Matthew 24 in Luke 21 doesn't verse 37 and what I say unto you so he's speaking to the disciples what I say unto you these disciples here I say unto all watch so is Jesus just speaking to a certain group of people no he's commanding all to watch and to be ready for his coming even if we just look at the phrase redemption as it says in Luke 21 it reveals what is being spoken of here we already know that we have been redeemed in the spirit when we got sake as it's written in whom we have redemption through his blood even the forgiveness of sins as it says in Colossians 1 14 and Ephesians 1 7 so we've already been redeemed when our sins are forgiven through the blood of Christ but then there's also something that we are waiting for the day of redemption or the redemption of our bodies it's written in Romans 8 23 and not only they but ourselves also which have the first fruits of the spirit even we ourselves grown within ourselves waiting for the adoption to wit the redemption of our body in Ephesians 1 13 it says in whom also after that you believe you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise verse 14 which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchase possession unto the praise of his glory Ephesians 4 30 and grieve not the Holy Spirit of God whereby you're sealed unto the day of redemption but what are we waiting for in our bodies is the redemption of our bodies at the day of redemption that is what Jesus is speaking about in Luke chapter 21 the only reference to a future redemption we've already been redeemed in soul and spirit at our salvation but there's a future redemption of the body which is guaranteed unto us by the earnest of the spirit which is within us according to Jesus the redemption of the body takes place at his second coming again which is after the tribulation of those days that is the day of redemption at the second coming in Matthew 24 immediately after the tribulation of those days that's when we're given a new body so Jesus is speaking to all believers who shall be redeemed and given a new incorruptible body as it described in 1st Corinthians chapter 15 he says that this draws nigh only when they see the sign of the Son of Man in heaven that's Luke 21 Matthew 24 mark 13 after the tribulation now the next point I want to make is concerning the secret tribulation rapture necessarily necessarily believe that it's a secret event but many undoubtedly do and that's contradicted by this clear statement in the Bible in Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 behold he cometh with clouds and every eye shall see him and they also which pierced him and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him even so amen was Christ just going to come in secret and believers are just gonna disappear like that no he's coming in the clouds just as first Thessalonians 4 clearly says describes him descending from heaven and every eye shall see him again the same event is Matthew 24 29 to 31 which you've already proved is not revelation 19 it doesn't describe every eye being Jesus I'm on the white horse in Revelation 19 there's no comparison to any event about or any scripture about the rapture or the second coming or anything like that in Revelation 19 it's a completely separate event it has nothing to do with the rapture has nothing to do with the second coming nothing to do with the coming of the Lord or anything like that it's something entirely different so the next piece of evidence I think is very strong against the pre-tribulation rapture is concerning the day of the Lord the day of the Lord begins at the rapture according to 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 and the Old Testament prophecies in many places show that the Sun and the moon would be darkened before the day of the Lord says in 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 1 to 2 but of the times of the seasons brethren you have no need that I write unto you for yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh of the thief in the night now any preacher would agree that this is talking about the rapture in fact this is one of the verses that they try to use to defend their doctrine they'll say well it comes as a thief in the night and that means it can take place at any moment which is the wrong way to interpret it as we'll see in the following video but it's generally agreed that this is referring to the rapture because this is right after the description of the four then when he's done speaking about the rapture he says of the times and seasons brethren you have no need that I write unto you so he's saying you don't have a need for me to tell you of the of the time which the rapture will be in verse 2 for yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night here he is equating with what he just wrote about the rapture in 1st Thessalonians 4 with the day of the Lord okay well the Bible always when referring to the day of the Lord describes exactly what Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 the day of the Lord is preceded in Scripture by darkness and itself is the beginning of the wrath of God it's written in Joel 2 31 the Sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and terrible day of the Lord come and then that's quoted in Acts 2 20 the Sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before that great and notable day of the Lord come so according to the Bible what is the sign that the day of the Lord is about to come the Sun being darkened the moon being turned into blood okay so we know what comes before the day of the Lord but what is the day of the Lord itself what does that term mean well in Isaiah chapter 13 verse 6 to 11 it explains it it says how will ye for the day of the Lord is at hand it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty therefore shall all hands be faint and every man's heart shall melt and they shall be afraid pangs and sorrow shall be shall take hold of them they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth they shall be amazed one at another their faces shall be as flames behold the day of the Lord cometh cruel both with wrath and fierce anger to lay the land desolate and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it for the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light the Sun shall be darkened and is going forth and the moon shall not cause her light to shine and I will punish the world for their evil and the wicked for their iniquity and I will cause the arrogance of the proud to seeds and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible I will make a man more precious and fine gold even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir therefore I will shake the heavens and the earth shall remove out of her place in the wrath of the Lord of hosts and the day of his fierce anger first of all I want to point out that this again mentions the sign of the Sun and the moon being darkened and it even says I will shake the heavens like Jesus says in Matthew 24 29 that the powers of the heaven shall be shaken but then it gives us a very clear description of what the day of the Lord itself is it's the day of God's wrath and judgment I mean you can't read that that passage there and not understand that the day of the Lord is the day of God's wrath when God punishes the world for their iniquity when God pours out his wrath and his fiery indignation and destroys the wicked of the world that is the day of the Lord according to the Bible here's another clear scripture about that Zephaniah chapter 1 verse 14 to 15 as the great day of the Lord is near it is near and hasteth greatly even the voice of the day of the Lord the mighty man shall cry there bitterly that day is a day of wrath a day of trouble and distress a day of waste and desolation a day of darkness and gloominess a day of clouds and thick darkness what is the day of the Lord it's the day of wrath of trouble distress waste ness desolation darkness gloominess again it's God's wrath so here's another scripture second Peter chapter 3 verse 10 the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night just like first Thessalonians 5 2 in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat the earth also in the works that are there in shall be burned up so you compare that with first Thessalonians 5 when it also says that the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night the preachers agree with that because there's no doubt that first Thessalonians 5 2 the day of the Lord refers to what it just spoke about the rapture and according to second Peter 3 this is the day in which the heavens shall pass away and that which is in the earth will be burned up with fire with these scriptures in mind does it then make any sense to say that the rapture can take place at any moment and there's no sign preceding it no because according to the Bible the order is the Sun and the moon are darkened the the moon is turned into blood the day of the Lord comes and then God's wrath is poured out upon the earth they have it completely differently they say oh well today of the Lord and then just a period of time and then then the tribulation it's they say it's the day of the Lord then it's the tribulation then it's the Sun and the moon being darkened and then it's something else I don't know exactly what they say is after that but according to the Bible when is the Sun darkened and the moon turned to blood and as it says in second Peter 3 the heavens pass away on revelation 6 that's at the time of the sixth seal as we've read already in after 6 verse 12 to 14 it says and I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake and the Sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became his blood and the stars of heaven fell into the earth and as a fig tree cast with her untimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty wind and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain and island were moved out of their places for all the signs and the rest of Bible prophecy are fulfilled at this moment this is when the day of the Lord begins another sign of its consistency is the fact that just a few verses earlier or later at rather in Revelation 6 it literally says for the great day of his wrath has come and who shall be able to stand verse 17 but after that we see the multitude appear in heaven which came out of Greek tribulation in Revelation 7 and then a revelation 8 the seventh seal is broken there's silence in heaven for half an hour then the seven angels begin to sound their seven trumpets and God's wrath begins fire rains down from heaven the waters are turned into blood and into bitterness the sky is darkened further locust from hell ascend to torture the people of the earth etc this is this as written in the book of Revelation is exactly what is described in the book of Isaiah in the book of Joel the Sun is darkened the moon is turned to blood the stars fall from heaven then is the day of the Lord also called the day of his wrath that is when it begins and God begins to punish the wicked the rapture which is the day of the Lord takes place after Revelation 6 which is again as mentioned earlier a parallel to Matthew 24 when Jesus said immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the Sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the star shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken again exactly as described in Isaiah and Joel and Revelation 6 and second Peter 3 and all these other scriptures about the day of the Lord again that which comes as a thief in the night is the day of the Lord but the day of the Lord is preceded by the Sun being darkened and the moon being turned to blood and that event also is preceded by the tribulation according to Jesus because he said immediately after the tribulation of the days that is when those signs will appear so according to the Bible the rapture as mentioned in the book of first Thessalonians takes place after the tribulation because the day of the Lord takes place after the tribulation there's another proof second Thessalonians chapter 2 it warns that the Antichrist must come before the coming of Jesus Christ and are gathering together unto him it says in second Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 1 to 4 now I beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him that you be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled neither by spirit nor by word nor by letter as from us is that the day of Christ is at hand let no man deceive you by any means for that date shall not come except there come a falling away first and the man of sin be revealed the son of perdition who opposeth and exulteth himself above all that is called God for that is worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God showing himself that he is God according to verse 1 the subject is the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ and are gathering together unto him so this isn't talking about some made-up hypothetical unscriptural version of the second coming which is separate from the rapture this is talking about the gathering of the saints of the believers unto Christ which again with first Thessalonians 4 in mind is the rapture when Jesus Christ descends from heaven the dead in Christ rise and then we which are alive and remain are also caught up to meet them with the Lord in the air there's two things which we should point out about second Thessalonians chapter 2 first of all in verse 2 it says not to be deceived by anybody and not to be troubled by the idea that the day of Christ is at hand now the phrase at hand means near or imminent that is not going to happen at any moment which is exactly what the pre-tribbers believe they say that Christ could return before this day is over they could say he could return this minute or in ten seconds with no preceding signs whatsoever that would be the day of Christ being at hand it's imminent it's it's nearing us it's very close like we can just happen any day now can happen any moment now now we've already shown that the day of the Lord is preceded by the Sun and the moon being darkened which will not take place until after the tribulation and now we have further proof of that here in verse 3 it says let no man deceive you so don't let the pre-tribbers deceive you and I'm sure a lot of them are being honest I'm sure a lot of them are not teaching the doctrine for the sake of lying but they've simply been deceived themselves by the doctrine being spread around in churches and colleges and things like that over the last century but regardless of who it is regardless of whether they have good intentions or not whether they mean well or not do not let anybody deceive you for that day shall not come now what day are we talking about the day of Christ what it just says in the previous verse the day of Christ the day when the Lord Jesus Christ comes and we are gathered together unto him as it says in verse 2 that day the day of the rapture it says shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition who opposed and exult himself of all that is called God or that is worshiped but he as God sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God the Antichrist or the Beast or the man of sin must be revealed and he must sit in the temple of God proclaiming himself to be God before the day of Christ comes that hasn't happened yet so Christ will not return in five minutes when will this take place according to the scriptures first we all understand that there's going to be a seven-year period which is commonly called Daniel's 70th week before the millennium and the reason why it's called that is because of the prophecy in Daniel chapter 9 verse 27 doesn't he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week and the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to seize and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate even until the consummation and that determined shall be poured out or poured upon the desolate in the middle of this week this period of seven years two halves of a time times and half a time this is when the abomination of desolation and the taking of the sacrifice away happens this is in the middle of the week the midst of the week three and a half years into the seven-year covenant of the Antichrist if you study out Jesus's end-time sermon in Matthew 24 mark 13 and Luke 21 Jesus warns that before the abomination of desolation Jerusalem will be surrounded by armies he says in Luke 21 verse 20 to 24 and when you shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies then know that the desolation thereof is nigh then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains and let them which are in the midst of it to part out and let not let not them that are in the countries enter there unto for these be the days of vengeance that all things which are written may be fulfilled but woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days for there shall be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people and they shall fall by the edge of the sword and shall be led away captive into all nations and Jerusalem shall be trodden down to the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled okay so before the abomination desolation because he says it draweth nigh Jerusalem is surrounded by armies which then take the city and then the city is trodden down by the Gentiles now the parallel to this is a revelation 11 it's written in Revelation 11 verse 2 but the court which is without the temple leave out and measure it not for it is given unto the Gentiles and the holy city shall they tread underfoot forty in two months and then it says in Revelation 13 5 and there was given unto him that's talking about the dragon or not the dragon the beast it was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months this verse here in Revelation 13 it's talking about the beast that he is in power for 42 months the dragon gives him all power and authority and he is in power for 42 months the same period of time that the city of Jerusalem is trodden down of Gentiles so what happens is the beast invades Judea they surround Jerusalem with his armies he takes Jerusalem and then at that time at the midst of the week then is the abomination of desolation that's the time when the beast enters into the temple and that's when he declares himself to be God it's in the midst of the week according to Jesus when the abomination desolation happens he says in Matthew 24 verse 21 to 22 for then shall be great tribulation so when the abomination desolation takes place then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time nor no nor ever shall be and except those days shall be shortened they shall no flesh be saved but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened if we take the order of prophetic events in the Bible it goes first Jerusalem is sound surrounded by these armies and then the abomination desolation is set up the beast sits in the temple of God and shows himself to be God and that is the time when the great tribulation begins then according to 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 which we already saw not only are only after that time is the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ and are gathering together unto him this event in the midst of the week needs to happen first not it doesn't happen before that okay it's after the midst of the week not prior to some fake seven-year tribulation which is never spoken of in the scriptures so once again we see that is guaranteed in the Bible that until we see the Antichrist sitting in his throne in the third temple which hasn't even been built yet the day of the Lord and the gathering together of Christians will not take place what's another piece of evidence well revelation chapter 13 verse 7 describes a war against the Saints by the Beast it's pretty clear I mean it says in Revelation 13 7 and it was given unto him to make war with the Saints and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindreds and tongues and nations to say we're not going to face tribulation is absurd it says that we will face persecution according to the scriptures will the Saints be attacked and will they be killed by the beast absolutely that's what it says not only does he make war with the Saints but he also overcomes them it's not just all well the Saints have been gone already for three and a half years at this point that doesn't make any sense he's making war against the Saints which means the Saints are there still and before you come out with the nonsense of all well that's just talking about the Jews again that's like the word elect the word saint is never used to refer to the Jews it's used to refer to Christians to believers the Bible defines what a saint is in 1st Corinthians 1 to unto the Church of God which is at Corinth to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus called to be Saints with all that in every place call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ our Lord or Jesus Christ our Lord both theirs and ours so the Saints are those which have called on the name of the of the Lord Jesus Christ so that's everybody regardless of their nation who is a Christian they are a saint that's why even the Gentiles of Corinth are called Saints and so also are the Ephesians in Ephesians chapter 1 verse 1 and even if we look at the context of the book of Revelation here it becomes clear who the Saints are it says just a few verses later he that leadeth into captivity shall be shall go into captivity he that kilt with the sword must be killed with the sword here is the patience and the faith of the Saints in verse 10 notice also what three in the next chapter revelation 14 12 here is the patience of the Saints here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus this is right after talking about the mark of the beast and the judgment upon those who take the mark of the beast that they will go to the lake of fire but according to Revelation 13 those whose names are written in the book of life do not take the mark of the beast and that's why they are killed Herod defines these Saints these Saints who are attacked and persecuted by the Beast as those who have the faith of Jesus so these are Christians they're not Jews they're Christians Saints now are Christians and Saints then are Christians these are people who have the faith of Jesus they exist at the time upon this earth at the time of the tribulation and the beast shall make war with them and overcome them that's what the Bible says now the book of Daniel prophecies also that the Saints will go through the tribulation offering further proof that the Christians will not be gone before the tribulation happens now speaking of the Antichrist in Daniel chapter 7 also called the little horn in this chapter it says in verse 25 he shall speak great words against the Most High and shall wear out the Saints of the Most High and think to change times and laws and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time so again during this time and times the dividing of a time so I'd be three and a half years the Saints will be worn out by the little horn it's simply not true to say that we're not going to face persecution here's another clear verse in the book of Daniel which shows the same thing down chapter 12 verse 1 and at that time shall Michael stand up the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation even at that same time and at that time thy people shall be delivered everyone that shall be found written in the book so again we know from the context that this is the time of the end as it says in verse 40 of the last chapter and then in verse 2 of Daniel 12 it talks about the resurrection so here we have a verse about a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation even at that same time and at that time of the trouble is the time of the end or which is at the time of the end according to Daniel 11 40 is when the people shall be delivered it defines these people as everyone that shall be found written in the book so again this is saved people believers in Christ the statement in verse 1 is very similar to that which was said by Jesus in Matthew 24 verse 21 for then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time no nor ever shall be and except those days shall be shortened there should no flesh be saved but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened when Daniel 12 it's a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation and Jesus says it's a time of great tribulation such as never was since the beginning of the world to this time it's the same thing a time of trouble unlike anything in the past Daniel 12 says the people written the book are the ones who are going to be delivered while Jesus says that the elect will be saved speaking of fleshly deliverance and not spiritual salvation by the shortening of these days so it's talking about the same thing in a case the word elect wasn't clear enough Daniel shows us that the same people who are delivered out of the tribulation are the people who are written in the book of life these are saved Christians not Jews not unbelievers these are Christians we're still here on this earth we're gonna go through the tribulation Oh absolutely Christians will be on this earth during the tribulation they will not be raptured out of here before the tribulation the Bible tells us that they will be persecuted and be overcome by the Beast but they shall be delivered by the shortening of those days at the coming of Christ after the tribulation according to Matthew 24 29 these are still not convinced here's probably the smoking gun I think that this is the best evidence so far on the case all these other scriptures aren't clear enough in Revelation chapter 20 verse 4 to 6 it says and I saw thrones and they sat upon them and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God and which had not worshipped the beast neither his image neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years but the rest of the dead if not again until a thousand years were finished this is the first resurrection blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection on such the second death hath no power but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign within a thousand years now it's already evident that the pre-tribbers are not very good at counting because in their theology the third time that Christ comes is called the second coming they don't count the rapture or even though first Thessalonians 4 clearly calls it the coming of the Lord but that's not really that big of a deal because the term second coming is not a term that's actually used in the Bible so we can let that slide is just a strange decision by the architects of the pre-tribulation rapture but the Bible does use the term first resurrection now I believe what the Bible says the Bible says first resurrection I'm not going to twist it and say well it's really the second resurrection no it says the first resurrection that means it's the first that means there was no resurrection before it and there will be one after it that's what first means the first Thessalonians chapter 4 the resurrection the rapture take place at the same event in fact the resurrection is even before the rapture when the they which are alive remain are caught up first Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 16 to 17 it says for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel with the trouble of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first then which we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord but the rapture first the dead in Christ rise and then we which are alive and remain are caught up with them so the dead and alive in Christ are brought into heaven but according to Revelation 20 who is a part of the first resurrection it says in verse 4 I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God and which had not worshiped the beast neither neither his image neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years but the rest of the dead live not again until the thousand years were finished this is the first resurrection so what is the first resurrection what it just talked about those who were beheaded for not taking the mark of the beast and not worshipping the beast meaning that they were dead they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years now how could the resurrection take place before the tribulation if those who are part of the resurrection went through the tribulation they were beheaded by the Antichrist right that's what the Bible says here which means they were on the earth during the time of the beast and the Great Tribulation but then it also says that they were part of the first resurrection again first means first if those who were dead due to the Antichrist are alive because of the first resurrection then the first resurrection which is the rapture takes place after the tribulation otherwise these verses would make absolutely no sense the resurrection and the rapture are not before the tribulation they are not before the man of sin they were after and that's how those who are killed during the tribulation are raised at the first resurrection it's not that difficult to understand the next piece of evidence I want to present is an answer to the question did the Apostles think that the rapture was imminent because a lot of verses used to support the preacher rapture were spoken to the disciples the Apostles knew full well that Christ had said or what Christ had said about no man knowing the day or the hour for example which we'll talk about in the next video so does that mean that John and Peter and the other apostles just expected to Jesus to return at any moment that they believe in an imminent rapture with no preceding signs well no and here's why it's written in John chapter 21 verse 18 to 19 fairly verily I say unto thee when thou wast young thou girdest thyself and walkest whither thou wouldest when thou shalt be old thou shalt stretch forth thy hands and another shall gird thee and carry thee whether thou wouldest not this spake he signifying by what death he should glorify God and when he had spoken this he sayeth unto him follow me here Jesus predicts the death of Peter he's speaking this to at least two disciples here John and Peter but then also if we read the context if you go back to verse two of John Thomas Nathaniel James and two other disciples are also present with Jesus when he said this this is when they when they're at the Sea of Galilee the shore of the Sea of Galilee and they're eating with Jesus so he said that Simon Peter will die now we know concerning the rapture in 1st Corinthians 15 it says we shall not all sleep and 1st Thessalonians 4 it explains that at the rapture there are some who are alive and remain which will be raptured now if Jesus promised that Peter would die that means that Peter would not be raptured which means that there's no way that the rapture could take place before Peter died so here we have another reason to reject the idea that there's no signs or no prophecies to be fulfilled before the rapture that it could just take place in five seconds the Apostles as long as they knew Peter was alive we're sure that Jesus wasn't going to come because if he did then Peter wouldn't have died and then Jesus would have lied and it's impossible for God to lie the Bible says so the preacher rapture is not biblical the Bible teaches very clearly that the rapture will take place after the tribulation we ought to study what the scriptures say instead of just believing whatever somebody tells you our authority is the scriptures the Bible regardless of who says what or how often it's repeated if it's not in the Bible we ought to not believe it a part of the confusion concerning this rapture is because of the existence of other false doctrines which distort people's views on end times prophecy and one of those doctrines is the is the universal church it's funny that a Baptist will get up and say we believe in the local autonomous church and not in the universal church but then whenever they talk about Bible prophecy they say that God is going to rapture the church what church there's not just one church and God is going to rapture people regardless of whether or not they're in a church which just means local congregation the same pastors will also say you need to be baptized in order to become a member of a local church and I agree with that we see that in the book of Acts so does that mean that if you're not baptized you're not going to get raptured no all you have to do to get raptured is believe you have to be saved according to 1st Thessalonians 4 so it's not the church is going to be raptured at all because there's no such thing as the church there our church is so they don't believe that at all they don't believe that only baptized people are going to be raptured it's all just confusion because they're getting a doctrine from a corrupt source they're getting it from dispensationalist Protestants they're getting it from people like C.I. Scofield and John Nelson Darby who were not Baptist and not from the Bible so just as a summary of why I believe strongly that the rapture will take place after the tribulation in case you haven't been paying attention 1st Thessalonians 4 and Matthew 24 almost almost identical in description while Revelation 19 does not fit Matthew 24 at all Matthew 24 describes the gathering of the elect the Bible always refers to believers as the elect Matthew 24 describes the Sun and the moon being darkened followed by the coming of Christ in the clouds Revelation 6 the Sun and the moon are darkened and the next chapter a great multitude appears in heaven which come out of great tribulation Luke 21 indicates that the redemption of the believers is at the time of Christ's second coming Mark 13 indicates that the prophecy and warning that Jesus is giving is to all believers and not just a certain group of people the scriptures reveal the coming of Christ as an event which every eye shall see him the day of the Lord begins at the rapture according to 1st Thessalonians 5 and the Old Testament prophecies in many places say that the Sun and the moon would be darkened and the stars would fall from heaven before the day of the Lord 2nd Thessalonians 2 warns that the Antichrist must come before the coming of Jesus Christ and are gathering together unto him Revelation chapter 13 verse 7 describes a war against the Saints by the Beast Daniel prophecies also that the people of God shall go through a time of great trouble Revelation 20 with its first resurrection proves that the people who are raised up in the first resurrection are people who were in the tribulation who had their heads dropped off by the Beast and Peter knew that it couldn't be imminent Jesus prophesied that he would die and that he would not be raptured up and also that there's no such thing as the church or the universal church so it's a corrupt source a little leaveneth the whole up and lastly I guess the the main and the best argument is that there's just no no verse no clear verse on the pre-tribulation rapture in the Bible it's completely made up it's from theology books and not from the scriptures now they might think that it's in the Bible and they'll use verses to support the doctrine and that's what I'm going to go into next how long is this video okay an hour so yeah I'll just do it tomorrow they'll use verses to support their doctrine and that's what I'm going to talk about tomorrow the verses that they use to defend the preacher rapture and these verses involve a lot of mental gymnastics and mind games and double standards and contradictions etc we've already seen some of them such as with James chapter 5 we've already seen an amazing amount of proof at the preacher relation rapture is wrong I think that besides just a simple comparison spiritual with spiritual in Matthew 24 and 1st Thessalonians 4 anybody who reads it with an unbiased view will understand that they're talking about the same event the description is the same but besides that Revelation 20 and 1st Thessalonians 5 2 in my opinion are the strongest proofs that there's no possible way that the rapture is before the tribulation sorry but if you're a Christian if you're saved you're going to have to go through persecution maybe if you weren't so weak on preaching the truth and going soul-winning and things like that you'd have experience with facing persecution and trials already but unfortunately a lot of churches are filled with unfaithful and easily frightened people who can't fathom the idea that they would be beheaded for standing up to the truth or standing up for the truth but unfortunately that's what's going to happen all right so I got some comments here oh that's pretty much the end of the video it seems like somebody Isaiah Ryder and truck hope you're all well you've had a rough time lately yeah that was a hope you're keeping okay yeah I'm doing I'm doing good thank you for checking how do we know that the rapture 200 years ago all who is he who leadeth he who leadeth that's not the Holy Spirit I believe that that is because that's what Schofield says and there's no evidence of that in the whole chapter I don't think I think the spirit is only mentioned one time in the whole book of 2nd and it's after that verse now anybody who knows anything about grammar knows that if you say he you have to mention somebody beforehand and the only person mentioned beforehand is the man of sin there's a video I had I can't remember what video it was if you comment on this video I'll try and find the video I'll try to send it to you it's not in the video itself but there is a guy who replied or who commented and he asked that same question and I explained it so if you want to understand that I have a little explanation and a reply reply to one of those persons comments so probably guillotine yeah okay first resurrection always sold for me too all right so thank you buddy for watching again there's part two tomorrow where I'm going to talk about the objections because there's a lot of verses which people will use and just so you kind of get an idea maybe you might think of another verse that I haven't listed here that I could probably take some notes on before I get to making the video there's Matthew 24 36 there's first Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 2 first Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 9 first Thessalonians 3 13 Revelation 3 10 Revelation 4 1 the argument about the tribulation being for the Jews and the 144,000 Jews Jeremiah 30 verse 7 and first Peter 4 7 those are the verses which I've heard used to defend the preacher rapture I've really not heard any other ones besides those but if you can think of another one I'd appreciate if you could comment that so thank you buddy for watching again stay tuned for the objections because you know I'm gonna prove thoroughly that this is the right position from the Bible I don't want to leave any stone unturned so thank you buddy for watching and goodbye God bless you