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and as the play goes around before we read the scripture and have the preaching this morning we're actually gonna do something a little bit different we're gonna have a testimony from brother Chris Segura now as you know several months ago we had planned a soul-winning marathon in Johannesburg South Africa and it was just planned as a one-day thing it was just gonna be a quick one-off deal get in there do some soul-winning meet up with some faith forward listeners get out of there but I ended up being banned from South Africa and my flights were canceled I didn't get to go there well brother Chris Segura was able to go to South Africa and basically do the work that I would have done except that instead of being there for just one day we sent him there for two weeks and he had a couple of other workers from our church with him and so he was able to really accomplish a lot for the Lord in that time and we don't even have time honestly to talk about all the stuff that our church has been doing over the last few months because the whole service would just be announcements okay but I just wanted to highlight this one testimony of brother Chris Segura from South Africa we've got people right now down in Guyana we've had people in Botswana South Africa over the last several months we've had soul winners and preachers from our church train and sent out of this church all of traveling all over the world preaching in schools I mean just a couple days ago brother Charlie Jeffrey from our church many of you know him he just preached in a school to 668 students down in Guyana in a public high school so we've got really cool stuff going on all over the world for the glory of God and so at this time I want brother Chris Segura just to give a testimony about his trip to South Africa and what he was able to do for the Lord down there what God opened up for us down there over the past couple weeks oh man I don't even know where to begin but I'll try you know to cover as much as possible because I wanted to be a blessing for you guys in the encouragement but first thing I want to say is thank you to everybody literally I felt like it was a gift the privilege to go there and you know anything full-time like this as I've been a member of people were Baptist Church I just been faithful just going soul-winning do what I can tithing just do my part but you know what as I was over there I couldn't stop I think of you guys I was like man you know what this will not be possible if it weren't for the people just being faithful supporting us not just in this church but people throughout the world as I was over there I just couldn't just up you know thinking to myself like man I would never been able to do this in a million years you know it's just incredible what had happened but also you know just want to quickly talk about the beginning because we had no idea what was going to happen you know pastor briefed me and he was just saying look you could get deported the first day you could be the entire time I don't know but one thing that I want you to get in your head right now is that it's a very dangerous place a very dangerous place and you know what I've never had life insurance ever in my life until I decided to go over there I quickly just got life insurance I don't know why I'm just like how much babe half a million let's do it you know $27 a month let's do it hopefully my insurance company doesn't see this video you know but literally that's what it all began pastor just putting it in my head it's a dangerous place I figured okay I get it you know they're shooting stammies murders all of that wonderful stuff you know that keeps people from going out and serving God you know but that day when he briefed me the Sunday night when he briefed me you know he just started coming up with a plan look this is what I want you to do you know find the people that are close to the pastor that's going to be meeting us down there you know just get with them get with as many people find our listeners see who goes down there just do your part you know but don't get killed you know that was the big thing just don't get killed so what happened was we ended up just or at least you know I didn't expect that I thought I was going to be down there the entire time by myself I didn't know what was going to happen but God made it worked out amazingly where he sent me a couple people like pastor had mentioned and it was basically a four-man team the entire time down there you know was me the pastor that's down there and two other members and man you know what they were they were so awesome they were just the best you know I just I could not have been blessed by God you know this whole trip was a miracle you know since day one I didn't know what was going to happen all I knew I was going down there and I was just gonna have to figure it out as I went you know but I knew that I was going down there to win souls I figure you know what that's the primary reason I'm going down there try to do some soul winning so I arrived that night and praise God everything worked out not a hundred percent perfect it did lose my luggage of course you know it didn't show up you know but it was a bunch of Bibles flash drives that we wanted to give to the pastor to give to the members of his church you know but it was nighttime when I arrived and we just started driving and we're like okay cool he's gonna take me to the place where I'm staying and I noticed right away that he's just driving through Cape Town and he's running red lights and I'm thinking what in the world's going on so he's running red lights and I just had a camera kind of aimed at him started to record right away and he right away just explained look this is okay we can run these red lights as night because these areas are where they do a lot of car jackings so as soon as you stop you know you don't know who's in this area and there's big gangs in this area and that's what they're looking for somebody that's dumb enough to stop you know for longer than 30 seconds because they will take your car they will take your life they will steal it from you so I'm just like oh hey run them all you know that's fine with me just run as many just give me to my place I'm a little worn out just give me to where I'm staying so his name is Pastor Bogart you know he's a non-denominational pastor but it seems to be leaning more towards our our way of doing business which was great you know so I don't I don't know a whole lot of his history how it all started you know but he was definitely leaning towards our way of doing business especially with the door-to-door soul winning he had never really done that his church had no idea what that was about you know his assistant pastor mentioned after we talked to him that he had known a little bit about it but they were not doing it that was a thing their biggest way of getting people saved is through hunger pretty much they would just feed a lot of hungry people and just bring him in and try to get him a gospel or Crusades you know that's the best thing down there is Crusades where they just have I think a couple of days of just preaching people come in and they try to get him saved you know but he realized while he was down here and you know coming across pastor Anderson that they're missing out they're missing on a tremendous opportunity to get people safe and that's by door-to-door he realized that right away he's like you know what I've never really known much about door-to-door he came down there for a couple of weeks went soul winning and he was amazed he was amazed by our church especially the young kids he was shocked how he saw young kids going with their fathers going out door-to-door because he saw that that was the next generation and he felt like that's something he needs to take back to his church and get it started fast as possible you know but he didn't know where to begin that's why he was asking for help and pastor was gracious enough to send us down there so the first day that I you know that we had together you know we were just helping him out as much as possible just trying to get everything ready for Saturday because he was going to try to feed about a thousand people that are very poor starving in his area near his church so we're just having him get gather around all Cape Town he was getting a bunch of donations from this individual that individual but what I noticed or one of the the people that I ran into who knew about Pastor Anderson was a manager his name was Nico and Nico was a manager at a grocery store but it was a supermarket but he was in charge of the grocery department so he had never really known about Pastor Bogart at all but what had happened was I believe it was after Pastor Bogart started posting himself pretty much with Pastor Anderson on his Facebook that this listener who came across Pastor Anderson through TV because South Africa media you know that's what they were trying to do is keep Pastor Anderson from entering into the country and I don't know to what extent they had him on TV every day but they mentioned that they had him on TV a lot so that's how they came across Pastor Anderson is just by seeing him in the news so what had happened he just started looking into Pastor Anderson because this guy wasn't that brainwashed to just believe the media right out the go so he decided I'm going to check this guy out so of course he said I went to pastor's website started listening to the preaching and I realized that this guy was the real deal and with that he wanted to help out Pastor Bogart so he got a hold of Pastor Bogart says look I heard you've been uh you know affiliated with Pastor Anderson I've been listening to him on on this website and on on YouTube and I believe him because when he picked us up one time sure enough in his radio he's not playing music he's playing Pastor Anderson's sermon you know so he was either faking it really well or he was a you know hardcore listener Pastor Anderson because you know he couldn't really go to church on Sundays because he was a manager and they make him work Sundays but he did have a Sunday free later on and he did come to Pastor Bogart's church try to get some preaching you know so what I was amazed was that this guy just by you know listening to Pastor Anderson you know ended up down the road like helping Pastor Bogart out you know so in a way they were uniting through the preaching that was coming through this church which I thought was really amazing because you really don't know who's listening to Pastor Anderson or to what degree they take him you know serious but that was just one example so then Saturday comes along and we knew that Pastor Bogart was kind of targeted by the media especially even more because he was now paired up with Pastor Anderson to some degree so on Saturday I had no idea what's going on he just kept briefing us this is a dangerous area don't get separated don't go off on your own I know that back home you can just pick any street and just take off you know but this is not the area to do it at you know so he was making it very clear don't walk off stay together don't just do what you want to do check with me first not because I want to control you just because I want to make sure that you guys survive you know your next week or so here but he also mentioned that the media had somehow reported that they're going to keep an eye on him on Saturday so we had no idea what was going on you know so I'm just thinking in the back of my mind well you know what just be prepared to be arrested you know and that's kind of what I went over there with that mentality just get prepared to be arrested who knows what will happen maybe they'll keep me here longer to set an example out of me I just didn't know but I was just preparing for the worst as you can already see you know for me getting life insurance but that's another story you know so Saturday comes along and right away I mean people are gathering up to help feed the poor and we see police officers already walking around about five of them and we don't know they're there to arrest us we had already taken a little bit of footage you know a little bit of footage of our first day which was Friday so Saturday we didn't know that was it we didn't know that was you know game over is over they came and try to figure out try to find a reason it just kind of detained us or deport us so whatever video we had in the camera I'm not going to say who was there you guys can probably figure it out but you know she told me not to mention her name but this other person that came to help us we're just dumping all the video on her he's like take these SD cards and hide them so I don't know where she put them you know when she was there later I found out she hit him very well and you could talk to her where she hit it all right you know but it didn't turn out to be anything I think they just showed up in case something was going to happen I think they were there for our safety because later on a police captain showed up with another police officer and some children that are from the neighborhood just kind of helping us you know to to just feed people but what had happened is that we just got started talking to the police officer and we just kind of started double check and see just how bad this this place is and so one of the police officers we started to talk to her you know and she she ended up getting saved so which is why she was opening up more towards us but we started asking her about the area where Pastor Borga works you know how bad is this area and right away she said it is very bad this area is very bad and I was also wondering how two white guys are in this area and how did you guys get here without getting hurt because over in South Africa they either consider you white colored and black and I wasn't black I wasn't considered colored so they consider me white you know that's what they consider me and she told me look these gang members they know what they're doing you know it's like you can hide your money anywhere you want on your body but they know you have something on you a credit card cash something you know and they will not hesitate to just take advantage of you especially since you're feeding the poor which was true because this was on Saturday Friday we get enough meat to just kind of pass out to an area they call it Malawi camp it's a very poor area and so Pastor Borgaert you know said it over again just stay with me stay with me don't get separated you know so we go there and we're just passing out meat packets you know to to poor people after we gave them the gospel and what had happened was while we're passing out meat sure enough these four you know I guess you can call them thugs just start coming towards us you know and the other soul winner that was with us you know it could happen to me it could happen to anybody he just goes into so many moments starts witnessing the people but praise god he wasn't that dumb he realized what was going on because it started to surround him so he played it cool just kept witnessing and at that point Pastor Borgaert saw it and he said look go grab him right now that is very dangerous they're about to rob him so sure enough I'm just going up to him and said look man we gotta go let's just get out of here grab the guy and kind of left you know but sure enough just talking to this guy yeah that we're trying to rob him they're trying to pull out his phone you know they were saying hey you know what I'm interested in coming to the church you know what's your phone number give me your phone number let me call you see if it works but that's just what they do to get somebody to pull their phone and they steal it from you know but that was just kind of like the first step that you know it took for us to just realize okay this is kind of an issue now you know but what had happened later on you know on Saturday is that we fed a few people witness to about maybe three or four hundred people you know not really sure who got saved people obviously raised their hand wanted to get saved wanted to pray and that's got to save him so we did that you know so that's what ended up happening on on Saturday sunday the first sunday there you know pastor told me if i could preach i'm like sure so he just wanted me to kind of go over the gospel with his people and the thing i like about pastor bulgar is that pastor bulgar you know to me seems like someone that really cares you know because of the area that he's in you know not just that but what made me think as well is that the guy obviously is never going to live a lifestyle you know like the average pastor here in america you know his house you know it's a very modest house his church is a very modest church very modest people you know but what i was thinking is man this guy really does care about his people because he's winning day in and day out to work in a very rough area you know and even himself he's been a victim of crime as well they've broken into his vehicle many times you know but he still keeps staying faithful keith's trying to preach the gospel be the best pastor that he can but it made me wonder how many people here in america i'm not just talking about this church i'm just talking about throughout bible colleges and everything else how many of these people that want to be pastors will actually want to be a pastor if they were in his shoes you know i wonder how many will be will be just you know drawn away from just all the poverty and just the hard work that it takes to run the church and there were other pastors down there as well that we were able to do uh seminars you know a couple churches allowed us to do a soul winning seminar for his people and another pastor allowed me to preach technically allowed me to preach he just told me to go out there and just say something but i kind of took over the sermon and let the guest preacher he ended up preaching for like 10 minutes he was supposed to preach for 30 minutes i ended up taking 20 minutes but the guy probably forgave me by now i don't know you know but i'm just trying to cover as much as possible but it was just a huge miracle you know from beginning to end only because everything that pastor told me to do guy made it very easy pastor said go over there find his assistant pastor try to get him motivated encourage him and that wasn't hard at all as soon as he figured out who it was he was all about soul winning all about going door to door you know all about saving souls one-on-one individually you know he was all about it his wife you know that's the thing about a pastor if your wife's not in it's going to be very difficult to accomplish anything but praise god pastor bulgar's wife i mean they're like one team one dream literally you know they're just as motivated to do more step it up to the next you know level the thing about her she's a full-time nurse you know so on our saturday the second saturday is when we're actually going to go soul winning door to door for at least an hour hour and a half as much as we can even the police told us don't stay in one area too long you know it's not like america you can't just be in one house for 20 minutes they'll target you right away and then you'll be basically you know hurt pretty soon so that's kind of our goal just stay in the house or stay 10 minutes with one person and move on but i like her his wife's dedication because she ended up working on on friday night from 7 pm all the way to 7 am you know so we're trying to convince her just to go get some sleep but she wouldn't have it she's like no i want to go out for the first time ever door to door with my church you know i don't care what it takes i'm all right i can stay up a little longer so she's never gone door to door ever but she was able to pair up with another member you know of this church and they were able to go out so many and she liked it and what had happened was um i had i had preached on sunday the first sunday on just being ready it was just a message called the greatest day of my life and it was really just about being ready to preach the gospel you know getting yourself prepared not just getting yourself prepared but also just staying ready you know because just as much as you need to prepare and get ready and become a good soul winner i was just mentioning that it's almost just as much work to stay ready and be a good soul winner and i have mentioned how i lost an opportunity to just witness to about 45 students you know one time you know i blew it because i wasn't ready to preach the gospel you know but then i mentioned an opportunity that came up down the road once i was a better soul winner where i got an opportunity to witness to somebody you know that was dying of cancer you know somebody had called me saying hey this person's not going to make it they're going to die anytime can you come again the gospel i was able to go you know and give them the gospel and i was just telling people look this can happen anytime this can happen you know in your life somebody you just never know you know and then what happened was um that day i believe or a little bit after that there was a community worker that had called us you know and basically asked us if we can go meet a man who was dying of stage four cancer you know and she said look i will really love you guys to just come and give him the gospel you know witness to him so i went there and he was on his deathbed pretty much and i gave him the gospel as best i could but lucky enough pastor bogart you know he was helping me out as well you know speaking africans trying to get him saved so i don't know you know what what was going on when they were talking africans but at the end of it all pastor bogart told me look he believes what you told him and he wants to pray to get saved so we ended up praying with this man to get saved and that was a big blessing you know but what was amazing was that you know it was just opportunity after opportunity you know where people kept saying we want you to come here but we really couldn't do much because we were limited you know to what we can do we still have to kind of help pastor bogart to accomplish what he wanted to accomplish you know but uh i don't even know how much to cover we just ended up to kind of just highlight we got about individually 75 people saved individually one-on-one we were counting but we wouldn't be surprised more people got saved because we must have witnessed to at least 600 people you know it was about you know 500 people on a saturday we went to another pastor's church he had about 40 people and another pastor church he had about 60 people obviously pastor bogart's church in just different groups here and there so about 600 people got the gospel and even in prison you know it was just really awesome how an idea will come up and god would just allow it to work out and we weren't even planning to go to the prisons when we flew over there but the pastor we're just talking to him said how hard is it to get into the prisons he's like i don't know he's like you guys want to try the prisons i'm like sure so he emailed somebody they asked for our passport numbers we email it back to them and they're like you guys are clear for tomorrow to come in at 10 a.m and preach in the prisons so we're like wow that's amazing so we went there and this is just how much of a miracle it was because what happened was one of our members forgot their passport and they told us you must bring your passport so we're thinking all right man you're gonna be happy you're gonna have to just wait in the vehicle but then pastor bogart is like well let's see if god just allows him to go in and sure enough they just allowed him to go in without his passport so when we went into the prisons you know they just opened it up to anybody you know they just opened it up to anybody but only about 20 men came in the room the other ones were just kind of outside just checking it out you know and sure enough we just you know were able to just preach to them and about seven of them weren't 100 sure they were going to heaven you know but i already went to the gospel step by step and then at the end of it all we just told them look if you want to be saved right now just go ahead and stay standing the rest of you can sit down you know and we ended up just praying with about seven of them you know and they basically i mean it was pretty amazing because once we were done praying with them you know these were men that weren't sure and i just kind of threw it out there and i said look you know if anybody's 100 sure now you know that if you die you go to heaven you know is there anybody here that just wants to tell us why just go ahead and do so and there was like this old man one of the prisoners he just raised his hand he said look because we believe that's what the guy said you know so that kind of made our day you know because he was one of the ones that wasn't sure then afterwards we just said hey why would you be going to heaven he said because i believe and that's really great you know so i got about three minutes left but other than that i think if you know i want to just finish it up by saying look thank you to you guys literally you know just thank you you know you guys made it happen i'm sure brother gary knows what i'm talking about just being able to do a full time and just concentrating on souls the entire time we wouldn't be able to do that if it weren't for these people and not just these people but anybody that helps out pastor anderson and just donates to the cause to get people saved i'm just like wow i'm just so grateful that people were were faithful and it was what it was you know we were banned from south africa you know but i don't know i think we made a greater difference down the road i really do believe that you know but other than that thank you for the pastor anderson for sending me there you know i didn't know if you're sending me here because you wanted me to get killed or because you really cared about me real quick you you needed there's a couple more stories that you need tell about tell about how you got to witness to the crime boss and also tell about how those guys were coming toward your car to bust out your window and they ended up getting the guy behind you okay so we were still kind of naive how bad the area was so we ended up going to dinner with um one of the local i mean he's not he used to be a pastor now he's more like just a guy who owns a business and helps out pastors his name is uh we call him brother johnny so brother johnny took us to dinner but he wanted to take us to the fanciest place he could afford so he took us to you know this place that was i mean it was really nice so i just he was sitting next to me i just started talking to him and i was saying look just how bad is this area let me just get an idea how bad is it oh it's really bad like really bad is what he tells me so everybody says that but i'm wondering like can i just go out knock doors i'm more trying to figure out like what kind of area he's working in and if it's a good idea for us just to go out soul winning for a couple hours so she would just cut it in 30 minutes or not so i'm trying to like plan with this guy and he's like look if you really want to get an idea an idea just how bad it is you know he said look you know there's gangs out here etc etc you know but if you want to talk to someone that really knows it in case you don't believe your pastor he's like you need to go talk to a gang leader that's what he says a gang leader and i'm like a what he's like there's this guy you know that you know we just happen to know and and he basically just kind of said look if you want to get the real deal get a better idea get some camera footage you can take home you know if anybody knows how bad this area is it's just a crime boss or whatever so i'm like okay you know i'm like go for it you know it's like you know how easy can you set it up he's like well let me find out so i don't know i guess he called somebody that knew somebody knew somebody knew this guy he called him he's like all right he can be here tomorrow at 10 a.m pastor bulgar was not for it at all you know pastor boy is like that is not a good idea at all you know i am not happy about it whatsoever you know this guy went to prison he just got out of prison he went to prison for 10 years for rape and murder you know and now you're going to interview him he's like i'm not happy about this idea at all but if you guys want to do it go ahead you know do what you have to do and he's like i just i just don't want nothing to do with him you know i just have no idea what he's really doing he is still suspected you know of of just being involved you know with crime in cape town you know but he is like their biggest criminal that they've had in a while and he was he's in charge or was in charge you know because he never told us he was still in charge of it but even the government thinks he still is you know they they said this this guy was in charge of the deadliest gang you know right now in cape town the biggest and the deadliest you know so i don't know i'm not happy about meeting the guy but you know whatever so we're like hey you know what i don't care if it's a guy on the street or anybody if there's an opportunity to get somebody saved i'll take it you know but let's do it so you know what's what it was the next day we go to the restaurant and i guess they have spoken with a pastor that got a hold of them someone that he's really close with you know and he just came and right away i think pastor boca told him look this might be in a documentary you know they want to record do an interview with him and he's like that is a terrible idea he's like i need to meet with you guys so then this guy meets with us it was another pastor you know he also used to be a gang leader and he said look this guy's coming you cannot record this guy at all you know so were you planning to record him i'm like yeah i was planning to record him you know it's like you cannot record him he can't do interviews it doesn't matter what type of media he's not allowed to do any interviews with any media you know whatsoever because here's what this is going to happen if he ends up going back to prison if he gets a provova a parole violation whatsoever he may take it out on pastor bulgar if he was the reason why he went back to prison you know so then at that point i'm thinking okay maybe this is not a good idea you know it's like okay whatever let's just see what happens so then what had happened was um he kind of quickly gave us a history of him and he was saying yeah you know what this had happened you know he still has like people that want to kill him so don't be too you know concerned if if he just doesn't feel you guys when you guys meet because you know his brother you know they were trying to kill him but it took it on his brother his brother was burned alive you know so they poured gasoline on him and it burned him alive kind of trying to kill him and he still has other gangs that are in the area that basically want him dead just kind of like as a trophy they want his head you know so we're like okay no big deal you know it's like whatever you know i just don't know what to think about it but this guy ended up showing up but first he's sending a guy to kind of scope out the area you know so he sends it a guy to scope out the area he ends up grabbing the manual orders for him i guess he called him saying it was clear and the guy was whatever just comes in and he just sits down with us you know and i at that point i don't know i wish we had it on camera but he was definitely suspicious he was looking at all of us and we didn't know this but they just invited him to just eat breakfast they didn't tell him that there was going to be americans there you know so now he shows up and he's like who the heck are you guys so he sits down and he's just kind of like you know it's just supposed to me and you what are these guys doing here and so i just kind of try to open up to the guy and just explain to him you know what's going on and i just told him look where you know i'm an evangelist from america i'm from faithful word pathos church you know my pastor stephen you know l anderson is the one that basically brought us here this i can remember and then that's where he kind of stops he's like wait a minute these guys are from the church of pastor stephen l anderson the one that they banned and he's just kind of like what's up you know so it's kind of like that it's like what's up you know you know so then he opens up like he went from being serious like what in the world so it's like he's the guy this guy whatever you know and he's like oh what's up then he opened up it's like yeah bring me my dinner you know let's see let's see what's going on you know so we were waiting for the dinner to come up and he's like look we're just here basically you know pastor borgard invited us and we just want to have you know an opportunity or not even anything we say look this is what we're doing you know we're just going around trying to get south african safe we don't care who they are poor rich middle-class gang members it doesn't matter you know he cares about the poor he cares about the hungry he cares about people you know so that's what we're here you know and pretty much all we're basically here to do is just give the gospel and this is how we good how we're doing i have my tablet there and so i'm just giving them you know all the verses that we use and it was funny because the other soul winner that was with us from our church you know he took a picture of me you know right when i was talking about that it's eternal and i'm not sure if he posted it by my tablet i used it for soul winning but it was a really funny picture because i'm here i'm talking to a crime boss you know here i'm talking to a crime leader and then i have my tablet like this and the picture and i didn't know he was taking pictures and all you see on my tablet because i blew it up nice and big and it says gift on it so i'm just like this talking to him it says the word gift you know so i get to that point and he was looking at me very serious every verse that i went through he was basically looking at it and i didn't pray with the guy but i went all the way to the end and i was confirming with him it's like look do you believe this this what you believe and that guy's looking at me it's like that's what i believe so tell me what this will you believe let me show you what romans 10 9 10 10 and 10 13 basically say and it says and if you do that you'll be saved and that's what i told him and you're safe you're safe forever and i don't know if he believed it before he started talking to me but this is the last thing that he basically told me and this kind of got into a conversation and started to eat but it looks at me and he says you know what being born again is forever that's what the guy says you know it's a one-time thing and he kind of looked up like like more relaxed you know kind of like yeah you know you just confirmed it for for me you know but i don't know if the guy got saved or not you know but he was he was just kind of trying to you know also give us the heads up like guys look i don't go to church you know i don't go to church right now because it's very difficult especially the environment the life that i live you know i have to kind of constantly watch what i'm doing watch what i'm saying i got to keep an eye out for people you know but you know we told him we just want to give you a gift you know and we busted out with the new world order uh bible versions and we're just going to give it to him and so what was funny is that the guy really wanted it you know he really wanted it so when i showed it to him that's when you say you know what i don't go to church because of this this and this you know what i'm trying to get life but the environment that i'm in is very hard but i i will take this this will help me is what the guy says this will help me and i think well if you want to take that let me give you some flash drives you know so it's like here you know these flash drives will also help you out as well so starting to give them flash drives and then after everything was said and done i mean the guy whether he's saved or not i don't know based off his answer i would say he has a high chance you know based on this lifestyle it's very difficult to see change you know very difficult to see change especially when he knows that he still has a bounty on his head and other gang members basically want to retaliate on him because of all the stuff that he did you know so we just left it at that but we gave him a t-shirt and i didn't realize what the t-shirt said but you guys probably saw the the facebook we give him a t-shirt that says soul winning is not a crime you know so the other guy so the other guy gives it to him and i like and he was really happy too because then we kind of walked into his car and he's like yeah thank you so much he puts it on and then the other soul winner you know he's just like hey can you put it on for us so he keeps like yeah absolutely puts it on and i'm like man if anybody knows what crime is not it's a crime lord you know thanks so much brother chris great testimony huh so he you know while they were over there the team had uh 75 people saved you know one on one confirmed that for sure understood the gospel and got saved but they also witnessed to literally hundreds and hundreds of other people you know where they're feeding just hundreds and hundreds of people and preach into crowds and just sort of you know having them raise their hand leading them in a mass prayer so you know we don't count those because we don't really know what's on their heart because we can't talk to them one on one and he's able to witness that crime boss and he was also able to witness to a person dying of AIDS he was able to i mean he just story he could be up here for hours you know but i just wanted to give you a little bit of that so that you can understand uh some of the great work that that some of our church members have been involved in uh all over the world so praise god for that