(Disclaimer: This transcript is auto-generated and may contain mistakes.) Now reside he, yonder shines the infant light. Come and worship, come and worship, worship Christ the newborn King. Sages, leave your contemplations, brighter visions beam afar. Seek the great desire of nations, ye have seen his natal star. Come and worship, come and worship, worship Christ the newborn King. Saints before the altar banding, watching God in hope and fear. Suddenly the Lord descending, in his temple shall appear. Come and worship, come and worship, worship Christ the newborn King. Amen. All right, good evening. Welcome to Shield of Faith Baptist Church. We are going to go over these announcements here real quick. I don't think we have any more bulletins, but not a whole lot to announce. Front page, the bulletin weekly church service times, Sunday mornings at 10 30, Sunday evenings at 6, and Wednesdays at 7 p.m. Underneath there is a list of our soul-winning times. Soul-winning is the time where we go out in the community preach the gospel to the lost if you're interested in going soul-winning. There are several times down here to choose from, just come see me and I can get you to the right person. You can always call text 208-391-5323. So we did finish November off with eight salvations and that's 96 year to date. Let's see here, back page. We're all done with second Samuel. We're going to be starting first John this Sunday evening and a look ahead December 18th at 5 p.m. is the ladies Christmas potluck slash gift exchange. Bring a dish to share and a gift of $20 or less. If you have any other questions go see Jessica after the service. And also we want to say congratulations to Miss Rachel Akers and Mike. They had baby Titus Asa today. He was seven pounds at 7 a.m. So he's a beefchuck. I saw his picture. He's a chubby chicker. Very healthy, good thing. Brother contacted me today. So they just left Boise today actually. So their flight got canceled to London for two days. So we'll be praying for him again tonight on the prayer list. And don't forget to pray for him throughout the week because he's going to be doing a lot of soul-winning and a lot of work for God over there. So we're excited about that. Let's see here this week's memory verse is John 7-7 which says the world cannot hate you but me it hateth because I testify of it that the works thereof are evil. We are a family integrated church and that means children and infants are always welcome in the service. If you need privacy there's a daddy baby room right over here to your left and the mother baby room is right across the hallway. The monitor is all set up ready to go. If you have any issues go see Kayden. Let's see here tithes and offerings for November right below that. Don't forget to turn your phone off. We'll place it on silent so it's not a distraction. And the very bottom line says not expressing the emotion of gratitude will give the notion of ingratitude. And that was from not last Sunday but the Sunday before. So if you did not get one of these songs just raise your hand. I will come by and pass it out but we're going to have one more song before we receive the offering. All right at this time we'll be singing our chorus of the month Go Tell It On The Mountain. Jesus Christ is born while shepherds kept their watching for silent flocks by night behold throughout the heavens they're shown a holy lie go tell it on the mountain over the hills and everywhere go tell it on the mountain that Jesus Christ is born the shepherds feared and trembled when low above the earth rang out the angel chorus that hailed our savior's birth go tell it on the mountain over the hills and everywhere go tell it on the mountain that Jesus Christ is born down in a lonely manger our humble christ was born and brought us all salvation that blessed christmas go tell it on the mountain over the hills and everywhere go tell it on the mountain that Jesus Christ is born all right let's go ahead and pray thank you so much lord for allowing us to be able to meet here this evening and just pray that you bless the service lord and the fellowship afterwards and pray that you'll be with us throughout the rest of the week in jesus name i pray amen so so all right if everyone can turn their bibles to first thessalonians chapter four okay chapter four verse one the bible reads further more than we beseech you brethren and exhort you by the lord jesus that as ye have received us of how ye ought to walk and to please god so you would abound more and more for we for ye know what commandments we gave you by the lord jesus for this is the will of god even your sanctification and ye should abstain from fornication that every one of you should should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor not in the lust of concupicing as even the gentiles which know not god that no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter because the lord because that the lord is the avenger of all such as we also have forewarned you and testified for god hath called for god hath not called us unto uncleanness but unto holiness he therefore that despises despises not man but god who has also given unto us his holy spirit but as touching brotherly love ye need not that i write unto you for ye yourselves are taught of god to love one another and indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all massedonia but we but we beseech you brethren that ye increase more and more and that ye study to be quiet and to do your own business and to work with your own hands as we command at you that ye may walk honestly towards them that are without and that ye may have lack of nothing but i would not have you to be ignorant brethren concerning them which are asleep that ye sorrow not even as others which have no hope for if we believe that jesus died and rose again even so them also which sleep in jesus will god bring with him for this we say unto you by the word of the lord that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the lord shall not prevent them which are asleep for the lord himself shall descend from heaven with the shout with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of god and the dead in christ shall rise first then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the lord wherefore comfort one another with these words jeremiah would you pray for us all right amen first thessalonians chapter number four the title of the sermon this evening is the apostle paul was post-trib pre-wrath the apostle paul was post-trib pre-wrath you know a lot of these doctrines have to be preached at least on a yearly basis and so it is that time to review doctrine again especially about end times prophecy now what brought this up was a few weeks ago a video got recommended to me i think i mentioned it before it was by sam gibb who goes to treasure valley baptist church and the title of video was uh the apostle paul was pre-trip meaning he believes that the event described here in first thessalonians chapter 4 between verses 13 and 18 he believes that we're going to escape the tribulation we're going to escape that and a lot of christians believe that this is a very sensitive topic a lot of people get very upset when you tell them that they will go through the tribulation they'll call us nasty names and party poopers and things like that but the the you know the issue is it's post-trip okay there's no other way to to say it and so what i'm going to do tonight is i'm going to prove to you that the apostle paul was post-trip now in that video that sam get made he's talking about um how he's talking about how the apostle paul is our apostle okay kept saying right the apostle paul is our apostle you know what he means by that what these dispensationalists like him and bill grady and andrew sluder what these guys mean by that is that the apostle paul and what he said in the bible supersedes anything that jesus christ said anything that any of the other apostles said okay that's false doctrine because they all say the same thing for one they're all preaching the word of god okay for number two and it's just very ignorant i'm going to show that to you i'm going to prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the tribulation is definitely something that we will go through now if you would go back and look at chapter number three first thessalonians chapter number three because one of the things he said and he kept saying this over and over and over again you know well if we were going to go through the tribulation paul would have warned us here in this book and he started to read verses from chapter number three here and he's like you know when he gets to verse three and we'll look at it here in a second his voice dropped considerably okay it was hilarious uh when you get home go look it up sam gibb uh what is the video it's uh sam gibb was pre-trip yeah something like that just type in sam gibb apostle paul was pre-trip it'll come right up and you can have a good laugh because that's about all that it's good for it is definitely definitely false doctrine but i want you to notice this here look at verse number one in first thessalonians 3 it says this so paul says wherefore when we can no longer forbear we thought it good to be left at athens alone sent to mothius her brother and minister of god and her fellow laborer in the gospel of christ to establish you and to comfort you concerning your faith now that's important what is the point of him writing what is why is he explaining this to us and it's to comfort them well why do you need to be comforted well look at verse number three he says that no man should be moved by these afflictions for yourselves know that we are appointed there unto so you have to understand that the truth divides okay the truth gets us hated we talked about this a lot on sunday and this all the time you know when you stand for the truth and you adopt the bible as your final authority you will make enemies it's just the way that it is okay we know that and so what paul is saying to these guys is hey you know i know that you guys went through some affliction you went through some tribulations you went through some hard times and i want to make sure that your faith is okay hey that's the whole point of this but look what he says in verse number four for verily when we were with you we told you before that we should suffer tribulation even as it came to pass and you know so he's basically saying hey remember i told you we were going to suffer tribulation now is that talking about the tribulation in the future not necessarily okay but it's kind of funny that these people always go around saying you know no we're going to escape the tribulation we're going to be taken up out of here before that but yet the bible says over and over again that we will suffer afflictions we will go through tribulation you see we've had a kind of gravy in this country for the last you know a couple hundred years you got to admit that okay we weren't going through what they were going through believers in times past did have to worry about their lives and so it's not like in every chapter of the bible you know god's going to say don't forget you're going to go through the tribulation don't forget you you know those of you who are alive during the time that the anti-christ is revealed you're going to suffer okay it's not necessary because it's obvious jesus talked about it it's in all the gospels it's in the last book of the bible and it's even in this book of the bible and you're going to see that here but i just thought it was you know funny that it says for verily when we were with you we told you before that we should suffer tribulation and when you compare that to the other verses in the bible that we're going to go through you'll see that that's also talking about the tribulation in the future so whenever this happens whenever the anti-christ takes power takes control he's revealed and it's like okay there's no more secret it's obvious we're not out of here you know you're going to see these people jump up let me go you know get me out of here get me out of here and guess what it isn't going to work you know when i was in the military we were having a really bad day one time i'll never forget this this kid he just flipped the lid and he went in the corner and he started clicking his heels together and just started saying there's no place like home there's no place like home and i remember these drill sergeants just swarmed him and just gave him absolute hell and i'll never forget it i just remember thinking like man this is this is crazy like they got no compassion on anybody that dude flipped out and i don't know what happened to him but that memory has stuck with me and that's how i view a lot of these pre-trib people when this is going to happen you know they're going to be mad what did jesus tell us that it would be like in the last days there'd be scoffers mockers what else did he say the people would be offended right a lot of people would be offended and one of the reasons why they're going to be offended is because they've been lied to for so many years okay so if we go through tribulations now if we go through afflictions now if our brethren who have been before us have gone through those things why would we think that we're special to escape these things okay now that doesn't mean that you can't survive it because obviously there will be some people that survive until the end you know and we can talk about that some other day but what we need to do now is go back to first thessalonians chapter number four so we can get our definition what is the rapture because the word rapture is not found in the bible it's kind of like the word trinity the rapture is a word that we use to describe the events that we're going to be reading about here so let's deal with this let's look at verse number 13 the bible reads but i would not have you to be ignorant brethren concerning them which are asleep that ye sorrow not even as others which have no hope now let's just stop right there why in the world would paul need to tell these guys that well to comfort them right this is a book of comfort this is a book to ensure comfort through trials and chaos and tribulations but notice what he says at the beginning of the verse it's the whole point for the sermon it's the reason why i'm preaching this that we are not supposed to be ignorant without knowledge dumb stupid concerning end times events we're not supposed to get this wrong okay it's very very important that we understand this so that we don't become offended later on look at verse number 14 for if we believe that jesus died and rose again even so them also which sleep in jesus will god bring with him verse 15 for this we say unto you by the word of the lord that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the lord shall not prevent them which are asleep and so paul's obviously telling these guys hey don't worry about it you're going to see your lost one you're going to see your loved ones again it's not like you're going to go up and never see them again or it's going to be a long time that you have to cry and sorrow and be just just hopeless no you guys are going to meet together again in the air look at verse 16 he says this for the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of god and the dead and christ shall rise first verse 17 then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the lord okay that verse right there that is the rapture that is what we are referring to when we say the word rapture look at verse 18 wherefore comfort one another with these words again emphasizing the importance of this letter emphasizing the importance of this doctrine it's to comfort one another okay but sam gibb reads that he's like see if we were going to go through the tribulation he would have mentioned it right here he would have said that plain as day right here well how do you know that says it in other places okay but this is talking about the tribulation as well you'll see that here look one more book over first thessalonians chapter number five in verse number one you got to understand look at what the beginning of that verse there it says but so this is a continuation of thought okay this isn't a whole new oh we're in a whole new book now we got to change subjects okay that's what these people do right and another thing they do i ought to mention before i go on is they confuse the word tribulation and wrath what they do is they say this whole seven year span of you know end times events jacob's um 70th week they say that that whole thing is god's wrath that is not true when the antichrist gets given power to conquer and to wear out the saints which is what the bible says okay that is not god's wrath on us right if they kill the body oh well we go to be with the lord it doesn't matter we are supposed to be comforted in that fact you get a blessing even paul said that i mean how many times does he have to say that it's better to depart and be with the lord right isn't that what he told people that was his ideology that was his mentality and guess what that was a gift given from god that's knowledge given from god that's the attitude that we should have paul's expecting them to have that same attitude so let's read this verse here he says but of the times and the seasons brethren you have no need that i write unto you let's stop right there so again why isn't he going into great detail okay like the antichrist is going to come out and do this this is this and this is the tribulation it's three and a half years why isn't he doing that because he already told them that okay and you can get that information throughout other parts of the bible so he's saying but of the times and the seasons brethren you have no need that i write unto you he's like i don't want to be redundant verse two for yourselves know perfectly now don't miss this that the day of the lord so cometh as a thief in the night well what's the day of the lord that christ returns right which is the event in what verse number 17 in chapter number four the same thing okay it's the same day so the same day that the events described in verse number 17 happened guess what that's the day of the lord who's read genesis 19 this whole church has practically right when did god rain down fire and brimstone on sodom and gomorrah after lot was rescued same day lot goes out then the wrath of god comes down that is a picture of what is going to happen at the end of the world okay same thing with noah after god shut the ark what happened it began to rain okay now obviously they had a lot of tribulation up into those points do you think that i mean what does the bible say about lot says he was vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked right that's what it says doesn't say that he had a gravy up until the time that you know the angels came yeah he struggled leaving right that's you know that that's a sermon for another day but the point is the the rapture is going to take place and then there's going to be a space of about a half hour and then god is going to pour out his wrath look down at verse number three for when they shall say peace and safety then sudden destruction cometh upon them as travail upon a woman with child and they shall not escape who's the they there it's the people left behind it's the people that rejected god for when they shall say peace and safety so when the world leader and his holy implant you know and whatever else he's got for society you know when he's running around saying you know what it's peace it's safety we've gotten rid of the haters we've gotten rid of the bigots we've gotten rid of the fundamentalists we've gotten rid of these pesky christians you know what they're gonna say ah peace and safety that's what they're gonna say but then guess what sudden destruction will come upon them look at verse four it says but ye brethren are not in darkness that that day should overtake you as a thief so he's saying hey look you guys are safe you guys are born again you guys are bible believing christians so guess what you're not going to be surprised by this for one but another thing he's trying to say is guess what you're not going to suffer god's wrath okay we are not appointed unto wrath we will not suffer god's wrath okay i believe that we believe that but you know what the anti-christ is not um how should i say this it's not like god's like okay i'm gonna put my saints under my wrath and i'm just gonna use the anti-christ to do it okay that's false talk that's not what we're talking about here he's allowed to run his course look believers have been dying all over the world since the time of christ it happens even today you go to some of these muslim countries and just mention the name of christ just give someone the gospel or just a bible verse or some kind of a even a bible track even a chick track okay and don't cut your head off it's true it happens so again is it true that we will never suffer any kind of tribulation why are why are believers suffering tribulation even today if we you know it all will know tribulation and wrath are the same thing it's because they're not it's different look at verse number five it says ye are all the children of light and the children of the day we are not of the night nor of darkness verse six therefore let us not sleep as do others but let us watch and be sober and so again he's emphasizing the importance that we ought to know these things we have to be able to tell other people about these things because not everybody understands it and not everybody knows and people out there have questions what happened to my loved one what happened to this because not everyone goes to church not everyone reads the bible right but we do we should have these answers and we should always be ready to comfort other people with these truths look at verse number seven for they that sleep sleep in the night and they that be drunken are drunken in the night verse eight but let us who are the day be sober putting on the breastplate of faith and love and for an helmet the hope of salvation for god hath not appointed us to wrath but to obtain salvation by our lord jesus christ and so what they'll do is they'll take that verse and say see we're not appointed to uh you know under wrath so we're not going to suffer under the antichrist's reign we're going to be out of here and i even heard sam gipp on that video say this he says you know if we go through the tribulation we're gonna all run in heaven and find paul and have a real big problem with him we're gonna say hey buddy you should have warned us because you were our apostle because we're all gentiles and all the other apostles were for the jews and that's false doctrine we'll address that in a couple weeks okay first of all you're not going to heaven sam gipp and second of all you're not gonna talk to paul like that you're not gonna talk to any believer like that because you won't have the flesh okay so don't think you're gonna go running up and having a little beef with paul or punch adam or slap eve right you know none of that or a kick lot you know you're not gonna do that you're probably gonna have some interesting questions for them but you're not gonna do any of that sorry to burst your bubble sammy boy turn to acts chapter number two acts chapter number two and so again i want to bring this up here because you see this phrase throughout the bible it's all throughout isaiah the day of the lord okay the day of the lord you have to understand what takes place on this day what are the signs because when you're reading the bible these things come up over and over again for example in first thessalonians 5 2 we just read this for yourselves know perfectly the day of the lord so cometh as a thief in the night you'll see that come up over and over again and there's little things that are attributed to that phrase the day of the lord and that's the same day that we are taken out of here so in acts chapter number two it starts off describing the day of pentecost has come verse number 11 the people are hearing the are hearing peter basically preaching their own language right they're speaking in tongues and the people say how is it that we understand what's going on here in our own language and they're speaking the wonderful works of god but then in verse 13 there's some opposition and people are like what's going on what kind of message is this right what's this jesus stuff about well what's going on here you guys are drunk you guys are filled with new wine and they start to mock and we'll pick it up in verse 16 and look at what peter says he starts to defend and answer his critics and he says this he says but this is that which was spoken by the prophet joel now keep in mind here this is peter quoting an old testament prophet the prophet joel starting to see are you starting to notice something here okay paul talked about the day of the lord you're going to see peter talk about the day of the lord who's quoting joel who talked about the day of the lord okay look at verse number 17 it says and it shall come to pass in the days saith or i'm sorry in the last days saith god i will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy and your young men shall see visions and your old men shall dream dreams verse 18 and on my servants and on mine handmaidens i will pour out in those days of my spirit and they shall prophesy and you say i thought women weren't supposed to preach well look women go out and preach the gospel all the time at our church okay and guess what they're filled with the spirit so there you go verse 19 and i will show wonders in heaven above and signs in the earth beneath blood and fire and vapor of smoke look at verse 20 the sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before that great and notable day of the lord come interesting very interesting the apostle paul seems to quote the same event that the apostle paul was describing in first thessalonians chapter 4 and chapter 5 but yet i guess according to the dispensationalist um we can only listen to paul in fact i heard this on uh one of their little videos it was a video by this guy named dr uh doctor of what i don't know doctor of garbage but his name's bill grady and he was talking with this other guy named andrew sluder who's a pastor of a church on the east coast and i think sam gift don't quote me on that i'm not 100 sure but they were talking trash about pastor anderson you know and they were saying um you know him and all his followers and all these guys all they want to do is run around and see what jesus has to say about everything or what peter has to say about everything they don't understand how to rightly divide the word of truth that the apostle paul he's our apostle and he never talked about us going through the tribulation almost like they're admitting right almost like they're admitting that jesus talked about the tribulation and how we'd go through that you know and the same with peter now go to matthew chapter 24 matthew chapter number 24 and so again what peter's doing here though right is he's just basically giving a summary of the new testament okay that's literally acts 2 16 through 20 summary of the new testament okay and so with that short summary there's some details that are left out but that doesn't mean that we aren't supposed to know those details okay you have to rightly divide the word of truth you have to know these things in fact peter's speaking to this crowd like you guys should know this your own prophet told you about the day of the lord so this isn't supposed to be some kind of a big shock nothing like that look down at verse number 19 matthew 24 look at verse number 19 okay so up until this point jesus says hey you know when you guys see the abomination of desolation take place by the antichrist you need to flee to the mountains you need to get out of town basically and leave look at verse number 19 says this and whoa unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days but pray that your flight be not in the winter neither on the sabbath day now kind of interesting here because jesus is talking to them because they asked him what will the end of the world be like what's going to happen right and notice what he's saying here he's like he's talking to them almost like this is going to happen in their lifetime but it's not the reason why he's doing that is because obviously he knew he's going to preserve his word and this is for those of us well if we are you know going to be alive during this time it's for the people that would you know be looking at the news like what is this guy doing what is this abomination thing and then all of a sudden realize oh it's the beginning of the tribulation here the great tribulation you know we need to we need to get out of town we need to do so what does this mean he's you know basically letting us know some information here on what to do and he says one thing that you can do is pray that your flight would be not in the winter neither on the sabbath day and so you know what i take from that what we should all take from that is that we should pray the same thing you know that god would keep us safe and strong and use us as much as possible until the last day because you know what even when the anti-christ is out there you know there's still going to be people that just won't take the mark that aren't even saved you know and we're going to have the responsibility or our children are going to have the responsibility to go get those people saved and it's going to be dangerous and we're not going to have church like we do now everything will be underground kind of like you would maybe see in china you know it's going to be like that but that's okay because we serve a great god look at verse 21 it says this for then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time no nor ever shall be so is there any doubt is there any question on what we're talking about here what is jesus talking about here now he's talking about the great tribulation okay that's what he's talking about distinguishing it from every other event that's ever happened look at verse 22 and except those days should be shortened there should no flesh be saved now don't miss this next phrase but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened who are the elect it's the saved it's born again bible-believing christians and what the pre-tribbers will do is they'll say okay well that's the people that got saved after the rapture chapter and verse please chapter and verse please you can't show it because it doesn't exist and don't give me this oh israel's the elect oh really were the pharisees and sadducees of the elect well guess what the people over in modern day israel have that same attitude that the pharisees and sadducees had today and they are not the elect in fact jesus said in revelation that a synagogue is attributed to who satan it's the synagogue of satan okay not the synagogue of the saved not the synagogue of saints okay he equates synagogue satan and it's very clear just go soloing you know we'll take you downtown by the synagogue down there in fact i know where some jews live jeff and i do we know one she'll probably invite you in the house and then proceed to passive aggressively bash the bible and everything that you believe okay but i don't want to get off too far on that the elect are bible believing christians i could spend a whole sermon proving that to you the elect are christians okay and he's saying hey because of the elect because of the saved because of christians these days will be shortened otherwise there will be nobody saved look at verse 23 then if any man shall say unto you lo here is christ or there believe it not so when someone says you need to come to our service because our pastor gets a verbal message directly from christ in fact he even shows up in the service in some of these rooms i've been to churches like that and i'm ashamed to say that but it's true i've been to churches where they've had guest speakers come in and say you know what i've talked to jesus out in the parking lot i had this most amazing experience don't believe it it's not true you guys know this look at this here in verse 24 for there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders in so much that if it were possible they shall deceive the very jew no the elect that's right christians look at verse 25 behold i have told you before verse 26 wherefore if they shall say unto you behold he is in the desert going out forth behold he is in a secret chambers believe it not right so when the catholics say hey we have this library of secret knowledge that's where the real truth is that's why we need to respect the office of the pope the vicar of christ christ on earth nope don't believe it don't respect it it's a lie from hell look at verse 27 for as the lightning cometh out of the east and shineth even unto the west so shall the coming of the son of man be so when someone says hey he's going to come down and he's going to secretly take people off the planet like the tribulation movies or what are those called what left behind thank you yes left behind right no don't believe it don't believe it because when he comes back there will be no doubt there will be no question he's coming back and you will know it even the reprobates will know it and you'll see that here in a moment look at verse 29 immediately after the tribulation of those days oh we got a big problem shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken what does that sound like to you yeah it sounds like the day of the lord doesn't sound like what peter talked about doesn't sound like what joel talked about doesn't sound like what paul talked about it's the same thing the day of the lord wouldn't it i mean wouldn't the bible be like from here over to like meridian if in every time somebody said day of the lord they had to explain in detail every single thing okay you see what i'm talking about here look at verse 30 and then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory verse 31 and he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other wow what does that sound like first thessalonians chapter 4 verse 16 verse 17 right caught up together with him in the air and so shall we ever be with the lord look the rapture is the day of the lord and guess what else happened guess what else happens on the day of the lord the day of god's wrath comes okay it's very very simple to understand once you actually do an honest bible study on the subject okay it becomes very clear go to revelation chapter 6 revelation chapter number 6 and we'll get a good clear picture of this and then we'll move on from there and talk about the apostle paul and his beliefs revelation chapter number six look at verse number 11 last book of the bible revelation chapter number six look at verse number 11 actually look at verse 10 says this says and he cried with a loud voice saying how long oh lord holy and true does thou not judge and avenge or blood on them that dwell on the earth look at verse 11 and white robes were given unto every one of them and it was said unto them that they should rest yet for a little season until their fellow servants also and their brethren should be killed as they were should be fulfilled okay is that god's wrath on his people no it's tribulation you know the bible says precious in the eyes of god i'm paraphrasing but it says precious in the eyes of god are the death of his saints okay i forgot which psalm that is but that that's a summary of what it says god views the death of his children as a precious thing in his sight okay and we need to understand that and not be afraid of that not be afraid of what the world's going to do because they're already trying you can already see the ball rolling okay look at verse number 12 and i beheld when he had opened the sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became his blood and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty wind look at verse 14 and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain and island removed out of their places so what are we talking about here are we talking about the day of the lord exactly look at verse 15 and the kings of the earth and the great men and the rich men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bondman and every free man hid themselves in the dens and then the rocks of the mountains now you gotta ask yourself and some of you already know this why are they hiding themselves why look at verse 16 and said to the mountains and rocks fall on us and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb now don't miss this see this tells you that even reprobates know this verse 17 for the great day of his wrath is come and who shall be able to stand you see that even they are gonna know true proper bible prophecy at this moment in time and it's sad because it didn't have to be that way look we're not calvinists here god doesn't just appoint some people to be saved and some people to be rejected no that's not true people reject him you guys know the story and this is the fate this is their end result this is what's going to happen to them now go to second peter chapter number three second peter chapter number three very clear that is the day of the lord and who's writing revelation right john is john an apostle what i thought we weren't supposed to listen to john only just get like allegorical meanings from him we can only listen to the apostle paul right no we listen to all of them we rightly divide the word of truth all scripture is god breathe all scripture is profitable for doctrine and for correction for reproof for everything that we talk about here so second peter chapter number two let me turn there myself second peter chapter i'm sorry did i say chapter two go to chapter three second peter chapter number three i guess we could read the whole book all right look at verse number one second peter chapter number three so again sam gibb and others claim that paul is our apostle and his authority supersedes even the lord jesus christ okay well i just proved to you that jesus christ taught a post-trib pre-wrath doctrine the apostle john taught the same thing paul taught the same thing peter taught the same thing guess what they all taught the same thing because they all have the holy ghost okay look at verse number one so this is the apostle peter this second epistle beloved i now write unto you in both which i stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance okay you ever want to get yourself stirred up or motivated okay this is a great way to do it read the bible look at verse two that she may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets and to the commandment of us the apostles of the lord and savior kind of sounds like they're all on the same playing field doesn't it i mean that's what i get from it but i'm not a doctor okay so maybe i just don't know look at verse number four and saying where's the promise of his coming for since the fathers fell asleep all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation right isn't that kind of what we're seeing now are people saying that there's websites called that there are all kinds of critics we have out there jump down to verse number 10 so look what it says but the day of the jew oh wait no is that the niv but the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night now isn't this the second time that we've seen peter talk about this but the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise now the elements shall melt with fervent heat the earth also in the works that are therein shall be burned up you see he didn't mention all of that when he quoted joel because he's trying to get back to preaching the gospel it's very obvious when you read the chapter it's very obvious when you read the book it's very obvious when you study okay so what is the day of the lord again you see the same elements the same thing thief in the night the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt doesn't that sound like what we just read in revelation chapter number six why is that because it's the same day the day of the lord is the day that the rapture is going to happen and it comes after the tribulation it comes after the great tribulation don't get mad at me don't get mad at god just accept it and mature in the faith and realize you can be one of the strong ones one of the ones that's not afraid of this look we are unapologetically post-trib pre-wrath because that is what is in the bible let's see here look at verse uh 14 says this wherefore beloved seeing that you look for such things be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace without spot in blameless after referring to the day of the lord right we are supposed to be found in peace without spot blameless look at verse 15 and account that the long suffering of our lord is salvation even as our beloved brother paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you and this is the first time that peter mentions paul so why does the why why why is peter why is the apostle peter talking about the day of the lord which is obvious that the rapture happens after the tribulation oh i get it because sam gibb is retarded that's why and yes i said retarded okay i'm not making fun of handicapped people they're above being retarded okay handicapped people my dad is better than sam gibb look at verse 15 i'm sorry look at verse 16 it says as also in all his epistles speaking in them of these things in which are some things hard to be understood which they that are unlearned and unstable rest as they do also the other scriptures unto their own destruction and that's what you see there unto their own destruction go to jude go to jude real quick two verses of jude and we're getting close to being done go to jude sounds like peter was post-trib sounds like peter was also our apostle look at verse 17 jude right before revelation jude verse 17 says this the brother of jesus jude says but beloved remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our lord jesus christ well that's interesting jude jude is telling us to listen to who just paul because we're not jews all of them right all of them so who's the dumb one who's the ignorant one yeah that's right look at verse 18 how that they told you there should be mockers in the last time who should walk after their own ungodly lusts again i didn't write that go to revelation chapter one that's jude was jude an apostle was he one of the 12 so do we just ignore what he has to say no of course not we know better than that i'm just showing you how deception comes to be and the thing that should blow everyone's mind is how many people will just listen to these guys and just take what they say as absolute positive truth when the bible teaches something vastly different that is a shame revelation chapter one further proof look at verse number one the revelation of jesus christ which god gave unto him to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass and he sent and signified it by his angel unto a servant john again who was john now john was an apostle who wrote the last book of the bible about future events and no one disputes that you would have to be absolutely on drugs to dispute that okay look at verse number two who bear record of the word of god and of the testimony of jesus christ and of all things that he saw now let me just stop right here and say this you know we've had people come in here multiple services for for like months who were pre-trip and you know what we were never unkind to them never rude to them never said you have to believe like us or you get out of here no we love them we befriended them and they left blessed except for maybe one guy you know but that's a whole nother story but you get the point here now what happens when you go to them it's on it's like the worst thing in the world you know um we used to get guys that would come in you know when i'd serve over up at takoma liberty baptist church you know we had this one guy specifically two guys actually but you know they just couldn't wait have you told pastor rector that you're post trim no why not because i don't want to cause trouble that's why it's not that big of a deal if he believes differently you know he's still a great soul winner and he's still a great bible teacher think about that for a second why is it that they have the beef like they will cut ties with you most of them they will literally cut you off from their lives once they find out your post trip but we don't do that to them we had a whole mob of people come in here if we had a whole mob on sunday come in here that's pre-trip welcome come on in you know no problem you could come in here you can be part of our church you can serve god you know what you just might have to endure that little gut-wrenching feeling once in a while when we talk about the post-trip pre-wrath rapture look at verse number three blessed is he that readeth and they that hear the words of this prophecy and keep those things which are written therein for the time is at hand you know that you get a blessing that you get a comforting by understanding the book of revelation by understanding end times event by not being ignorant like paul said you know that's how we can say the things that we say with absolute confidence and not live in fear look at verse number four john to the seven churches which are in judea oh wait that don't say judea what does that say asia was a asia like a nation just full of jews no no look what the rest of the verse says grace be unto you in peace from him which is and which was and which is to come and from the seven spirits which are before his throne verse five and from jesus christ who is the faithful witness in the first begotten of the dead and the prince of the kings of the earth that's you that's me that's us we are kings and we are priests and a sign of maturity is when you really understand that and you understand that hey he's saying hey peace from jesus to you by the way here's what's going to happen to you and you don't even flinch you're like let's bring it if it's going to happen let's have it happen and let's go to glory verse six jump down to verse number six says and hath made us kings and priests unto god and his father to him be glory and dominion forever and ever last place i'm going to have you turn for tonight first corinthians chapter number one first corinthians actually go to first corinthians chapter number three first corinthians chapter number three and we're done so i just had to throw that in there you know revelation written by john to the seven churches in asia okay but yet the apostle paul's our apostle we only we only listen to him you know i've got more respect for the liberals sorry i had to say it then i do that okay i'm just gonna say that and just leave it for what it is okay because at least they just don't talk about doctrine a lot of times depending on the church they just kind of look at my new jeans and that's it that's better than that gross disgusting false interpretation of the bible first corinthians chapter number three look at verse number three so paul says this for ye are yet carnal for whereas there is among you envying and strife and divisions are ye not carnal and walk as men so what does he tell him saying you know what you corinthians you guys are worldly okay you're acting like there's no difference between you and the world now look at verse number four for while one saith i am of paul and another i am of apollo's are ye ye not carnal okay look this game's already been played okay the corinthian church is playing this game paul's our apostle and they had other guys oh you know apollo's is ours right he's our preacher he's our favorite we only listen to him right they were puffed up go read chapter one same thing same thing paul this isn't the set this isn't the first time that he's rebuking him on this okay they were saying hey apollo's baptized me and my family and one was saying oh paul baptized me and he's like i don't remember who i baptized okay so just drop it okay are we supposed to be like that no i thought we were in this thing for christ that's what we're in this thing for to serve him not man and paul tells him you know you guys are ignorant and then in chapter number three what does he say are ye not carnal so think about that for a second when you see stuff like that sam gibbs saying you know he's our apostle he just teleported you all the way back to the early days of the corinthian church which is not a good thing the entire letters of rebuke like from head to toe just rebuke rebuke rebuke they weren't doing things right at all calling them carnal babes he's like i couldn't even give you guys any meat that's how bad it is here all right we don't want to be like that we won't be like that we're going to preach the truth we're going to teach the truth and we're going to stand against anybody who contradicts it and that's just the way it is so anyways we are going to stop right there and we will pick it up again next week so let's bow our heads and have a word of prayer thank you so much lord again for just the clear and concise truth regarding end times events lord that are in the bible just pray that you would help us to be able to explain these things to other people lord and we just pray that more people would wake up to these things lord and get the true joy and the true comfort that comes with knowing the truth and we thank you for all that you do for us lord please bless the fellowship after the service in jesus name i pray amen all right please grab your song books one more time this evening and turn to song 23 so song number 23 there is power in the blood on the first would you be free from your burden of sin there's power in the blood power in the blood would you are evil a victory win there's wonderful power in the blood there is power power wonder working power in the blood of the lamb there is power power wonder working power in the precious blood of the lamb would you be free from your passion and pride there's power in the blood power in the blood come for a cleansing to calvary's tide there's wonderful power in the blood there is power power wonder working power in the blood of the lamb there is power power wonder working power in the precious blood of the lamb would you be wider much wider than snow there's power in the blood power in the blood sin stains are lost in its life-giving flow there's wonderful power in the blood there is power power wonder working power in the blood of the lamb there is power power wonder working power in the precious blood of the lamb on the last would you do service for jesus your king there's power in the blood power in the blood would you live daily his praises to see there's wonderful power in the blood there is power power wonder working power in the blood of the lamb there is power power wonder working power in the precious blood of the lamb amen brother jeff would you close the service out in a word of prayer please Dear Lord thank you so much for the message tonight we thank you for this church and the pastor who is not afraid to preach some of these truths in the bible that may be unpleasant to some folks help us proceed it helps us say our bible is going to take comfort in these things knowing that we may go through some of this stuff in our lifetime or our children's lifetime going up to strengthen each other help to strengthen ourselves in the word of god lord keep us safe bless the soul in this report be a brother spoke to his family miss rachel so so