(Disclaimer: This transcript is auto-generated and may contain mistakes.) But this whole time, this whole time, there had been believers, there had been a line of believers outside of the Roman Catholic Church, outside of the Protestant line that believed, that came forth, that had their heritage from the book of Acts, from the Lord Jesus Christ, from the apostles. As far as the Baptist is concerned, we see that our lineage coming from an apostolic lineage versus, say, the Reformation or any of those things. Now these individuals, these individuals went by different names, different groups went by different names at different times. Some of them were called Waldensians, some of them were called Paulicians, some of them were called Albigensians. They went by different names at different times, but these individuals were individuals that believed certain things. They had certain distinct belief systems that did not allow them to join up with the great whore, the Roman Catholic Church, and did not allow them to join up with the Protestant Reformation movement that basically just came out of the Roman Catholic Church. The Paulicians were an interesting group that found their way and kind of found a home in Armenia. They were a fascinating group, and I use the word fascinating because I can't find a better word for them. They were Christians, but I would call them fundamental Christians. So when you talk about them, they were intellectuals, they were intelligent, they weren't in any way, shape, or form ignorant. They were just fascinated by the New Testament. Now in some circles, they've been called anti-Semitic. I do not believe that that was their case, I just don't think they followed or wanted to follow some of the Old Testament teaching and some of the, let's call it, Israel-like ways of doing things. They are a group that's very early in the medieval period who are reputed to have been practicing believer's baptism. This is one of the groups that people who will say that there's a continuous thread of Baptist practice all through Christian history, they'll cite groups like this of saying that the idea of believer's baptism kept going in the church after that kind of fourth and fifth century turning away from believer's baptism. From what I've read, is that they did undergo a lot of persecution from other denominations from the Catholic Church, from areas like that, and they seem to have a pretty strong hold on biblical concepts real similar to what I was just explaining as far as what a Baptist is. So when we reference groups like the Paulicians, the Albigensians, the Waldensians, we're obviously not endorsing everything that these groups believed. Just like today you can find Baptists who believe heresy, you could find heresy in those groups. The purpose of citing those groups is to show that there have been groups, and not just these groups, but also unnamed groups that have been lost to history. But there have been groups that have stood outside of mainstream Christianity, outside of the lineage of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant movement.