(Disclaimer: This transcript is auto-generated and may contain mistakes.) Let's turn back to John chapter 1, verse number 1. John 1, 1. The title of my sermon tonight is, Pentecostal Oneness Doctrine Debunked. Pentecostal Oneness Doctrine Debunked. Now what does that even mean? Let me just start out by just basically explaining what the Trinity is, and what this Pentecostal Oneness Doctrine is. These three heretics in our church that have been going around and subverting us, not being open. When people do that which is right, they do it in the daylight. They do it openly. But men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil. So they go to just certain people, they take them aside. Somebody else walks up while they're having the conversation, and it's kind of, they quiet it down. They only approach certain specific people with this. But what they're teaching, I'll give it to you in the wording that one of them worded it to me. They said, well the Trinity, it's sort of like a one man band. So you got a guy who's playing a guitar, and a drum, and a harmonica all at the same time. That's the Trinity, one spirit, one guy, one entity. And he just plays three different parts, three different roles. Other people who believe this modalist doctrine or oneness doctrine will explain it as, sort of like I'm a husband, I'm a father, and I'm a pastor, three in one. And then they say that's the nature of God, that he's just one person, one spirit, one entity who just wears different hats. You know like the old movie or something where the guy puts on the police hat in the small town and then he takes it off and he puts on the fire hat, and then he puts on a black hat and he says now I'm the mayor of the town and everything like that. That's what the oneness doctrine teaches, okay. That God just plays these different roles. He manifests as the father, he manifests as the son, he manifests as the holy spirit. He can even manifest himself in other ways. Those are just his three main manifestations. That's the oneness doctrine. Whereas the Trinity teaches, and of course the famous verse, first John five seven comes to mind, there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the word, and the holy ghost, and these three are one. And what the teaching is with the Trinity is that these three entities, the father, the son, and the holy ghost are distinct from one another, but collectively they make up one God. So one God composed of the father, the son, and the holy ghost, and that these three are one. That's what the basic traditional view of the Trinity is. And people will use different illustrations to illustrate it, and no illustration is ever going to be perfect, but some people will use an illustration of water being ice and water and steam, but it's all H2O, or some people use an illustration of the body, the soul, and the spirit, but it's all the same person. That's one illustration that people will use. And no illustration is perfect, or they see like an egg has like the yolk and the shell and the white of the egg, but it's just one egg and stuff like that, it has three components. So people use a lot of different illustrations, but obviously we don't want to base our belief on illustrations, we always want to base our belief on what the Bible teaches. And what the Bible teaches is that Jesus is God, but that Jesus is not God the father. God the father is different than the holy spirit. The holy spirit is different than the son of God. The son of God is different than God the father, but they all make up one God. And you say, well that's confusing, I don't understand it. Here's the thing, the Bible does say great is the mystery of godliness, so it's not something that we can necessarily fully wrap our mind around, but we have to believe that there's the father and there's the son and there's the holy ghost. These three are one, but they are not the same as one another. And look, I'm going to prove it to you from the Bible. I have four pages of scripture just from John, but let's just start in John 1-1. And remember, as we go through the sermon tonight, John is the most basic book in the Bible that we give to every babe in Christ and say start here. That's pretty much universal. Go to John chapter 1 verse 1, the Bible reads, In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. Verse 14 says, And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. So who is the word? Jesus, the only begotten of the Father, he came and he dwelt among us. Now Jesus, the word, the Bible says he was in the beginning with God and he was God. Now how can he both be with God and be God both at the same time? Well think about it, from a Trinity perspective, if we say God is comprised of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one, then when the Bible says the word was with God, we're referring to God the Father, because God the Father is often in the Bible just called God. So he was with God, but he also was God because of the fact that he is a member of the Godhead. So he is with God, and he is God. Look at verse 18. The Bible says, No man hath seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Now when the Bible says no man hath seen God at any time, we're clearly talking about God the Father. We're clearly not talking about Jesus, because did people see Jesus? Of course they did. So when the Bible says no man has seen God at any time, but then it says the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. But you say, well, does this mean that Jesus isn't God? Well, okay, let's start over. John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God. This doesn't take away from the deity of Jesus Christ. Of course Jesus is God, but he's also with God, because there's a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Now if we were to take a oneness interpretation or a modalist interpretation, this wouldn't make any sense, because it would just say, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and he put on that other hat, he put on that other mask, or he put down the guitar, and he picked up the harmonica, or whatever. But that is not what the Bible teaches. Now let's go to chapter 5 of John. We got a lot of scripture. I don't want to get too bogged down in chapter 1. I want to hit a lot of scripture tonight. I got four pages. I want to get through all four pages, let alone the rest of the Bible, amen? This is just the book of John. But look at John chapter 5 verse 22. It says, For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son. Okay, now the modalist is going to look at that. The oneness, Pentecostal is going to look at that and say, Well, that's just because when he does the judging, he puts on the Son outfit. He puts on that mode. He's in that mode. When he's as the Son, that's where he does the judging. Okay, all right, well, let's go down to verse 30, though. Because the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment to the Son. That sounds like there's a big distinction there. But look at verse 30. I can of mine own self do nothing, as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. That shows right there that the will of the Father is different than the will of the Son. What the Son wants to do is not the same as what the Father wants to do. That's why in the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus said, Not as I will, but as thou wilt. Not my will, but thine be done. Why? Because there's a difference there in what the Son would want to do versus the Father has a will, and he has obedience to the Father, and he submits himself to the will of the Father, because there's a chain of command there. The Father, and look, I keep wanting to quote all these verses from Corinthians, but I said I was going to do it just from the book of John. I'm going to save all those for Sunday morning, the whole rest of the Bible. But anyway, I can of mine own self do nothing, as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. Watch this. If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me, and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Verse 37, And the Father which hath sent me hath borne witness of me. Now how can you get any clearer when he says, hey, if I'm bearing witness of my own self, my witness isn't true. Well guess what? If modalism is true, if the oneness doctrine is true, he is bearing witness of himself. If he is God the Father, that's one witness. And he says that the Father, he has borne witness of me, the Father himself, he said at the end of that verse, in verse 37, you've neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape, and ye have not his word abiding in you, for whom he hath sent him you believe not. Now go to John 6, 46, John chapter 6, verse 46, John chapter 6, verse 46, says, Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. He's referring to himself there. He's saying, I've seen the Father, but no human being has ever seen the Father. The Bible says in chapter 8, flip over to John chapter 8, verse 16. John chapter 8, verse 16, and this ties in with what we just read in chapter 5, John chapter 8, verse 16, And yet if I judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone. I'm not alone, but I am the Father that sent me. It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. Hello, is anybody home? It's written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. I'm one that beareth witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. I mean, what if I said, you know, I mean, it's just insane, like, well, I bore witness as the pastor, and I bore witness as a father, and I bore witness as a husband. What else do you need, your honor? He's going to say, no, that's one person. That's one guy. But Jesus said, no, no, no, I'm not alone. I'm bearing witness of myself, and the Father, he's bearing witness. Are you starting to understand why all of evangelical Christianity understands his doctrine? It's starting to make sense why every Southern Baptist church, every independent Baptist church, every non-denominational, you know, quasi-evangelical church, every Lutheran church, I mean, are you starting to understand why this doctrine is believed by all of evangelical Christianity? Let's keep going. Verse number 26, I have many things to say and to judge of you, but he that sent me is true, and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. Then said Jesus unto them, when you've lifted up the Son of Man, then shall you know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself, but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. I'm not doing it by myself. I'm not doing it of myself. The Father which sent me taught me these things. Verse 29, and he that sent me is with me. Again, that's just like John 1-1. He was with God, and he was God. He that sent me is with me. The Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him, right? So if the Son has a will and the Father has a will, what are we going to do? Always the things that please him. He did always the things that please the Father. As he spake these words, many believed on him. Look at verse 42. Jesus said unto them, if God were your Father, ye would love me, for I proceeded forth and came from God. Neither came I of myself, but he sent me. How can you read all this and say, oh, oneness, modalism? It's crazy. Go to John chapter 10. John chapter 10. And here in John 10-30, this is one of the verses that would be used as a proof text by the modalist, by the oneness, Pentecostal type doctrine. They would point to John 10-30 and say, there it is right there, where he said, I and my Father are one. But here's the thing, we already knew that there's three that bear record in heaven and that these three are one. No surprise there. But let's keep reading. Let's actually get the context. Verse 30, I and my Father are one. When the Jews took up stones again to stone him, Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father, for which of those works do you stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because of thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken, say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemous, as I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe me not, believe the works, that ye may know and believe that the Father is in me, and I in him. Now I want you to pay close attention to that statement there where he said, The Father is in me, and I in him. You got that? We're going to come back to that in a little bit. Go to John chapter 12, because I'm going in order. We're going to come back to that when we get to John 14, but I'm moving in order from chapter 1 forward. So let's go to John chapter 12, verse 49. The Bible says, For I have not spoken of myself, but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting. Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. Now look, if Jesus is God the Father, how can he just start out, well, I have not spoken of myself. I didn't come up with this stuff myself. I got this from the Father that sent me. John chapter 13, verse 1, Now before the feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come, that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. So the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. Jesus said in John chapter 3, The Father loveth the Son. He says throughout the book of John, The Father sent me. He says throughout the book of John, I'm going unto the Father. So if the Father sent him, if the Father loves him, if he's going to the Father, how can this all be himself? And he uses the word myself over and over again to say, I'm not, I didn't send myself, I didn't command myself, we're not talking about, we're talking about the Father. So how can he be talking about himself or talking to himself as they claim, yeah, he's talking to himself. When he prayed, he talked to himself. That's what one of these heretics told me. They said, well, of course, I mean, if Jesus is God, he's talking to himself. Well, no, because if you actually understood and believed the Trinity, you'd understand that the Son's talking to the Father. He's not talking to himself. What does the Bible say? Look up the word myself there. What's it saying? It's saying, no, I'm not speaking of myself, I didn't send myself, I didn't command myself. I'm bearing witness of myself and then also the Father's bearing witness of me. There's a relationship there, isn't there? When the Father loves the Son, Father sends the Son, Son returns to Father, Son does the things that please him. The Bible says in John 14, 6, here's where we get into some really famous scripture here, a little more of a proof text that the oneness doctrine would lean on, the modalism doctrine. It's called modalism because it's like one entity appearing in different modes, Father mode. Like on an electronic device, you'll switch into various modes of operation. That's why it's called modalists because it's Father mode, Son mode, Holy Spirit mode. They'll say, well, we're not modalists because he can be in more than one mode at the same time. Yeah, but that's what all modalists believe. That's what all oneness Pentecostals believe, that he's in more than one mode at once. It's either called one Pentecostal oneness doctrine or it's called modalism. These three heretics said, well, it's not oneness and then they start describing to you and it's identical to what the Wikipedia page for oneness teaches. Here's what I'm asking myself. If it's not oneness, if it's not the modalists, if it's not the Trinity, so what is it then? Oh, it's a new doctrine. So what kind of a cult are you starting? And what are you going to name this new doctrine since you don't like any of these names? What are you going to call it? Tyler-tarianism? Look at John 14 verse 6, Jesus saith unto him, I'm the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me. If you'd known me, you should have known my Father also and from henceforth you know him and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you and yet has thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father and how sayest thou then, show us the Father. So this is their proof text, one of their, there's only a handful. I could count on one hand their proof text and we got together last night at the preaching class with 30 of us men and we went around the room and we all racked our brains and a lot of them had already been talked to and taken aside by these guys and we went through and we could hardly come up with just a handful of proof texts and they're so easily debunked and this one's no exception where he says, well, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father and they say case closed right there. Okay, but let's keep reading. Why don't we read the context, shall we? Let's not just rip this out. He said, how sayest thou then, show us the Father. He explains why in verse 10, believe is thou not that I am in the Father and the Father in me. Now, if modalism were true, wouldn't this be a perfect opportunity for him to just say, believe is now not that I'm the Father? It'd be a perfect opportunity, but he says, believe is now not that I'm in the Father and the Father in me. The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself. I speak not of myself. Oh, he's talking to himself. No. I speak not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Now let me ask you, and there's a lot more in this chapter that we're going to look at, but let me ask you this. Is the Holy Spirit in you? Does that make you the Holy Spirit? No. So if I say the Holy Spirit's in me, or if I said Christ in you, the hope of glory, or if I said we're in Christ, if any man be in Christ, right? If Christ is in me and I'm in him, does that mean I'm Christ? But yet, supposedly, the fact that Jesus said, well, the Father's in me and I'm in him, somehow makes Jesus equivalent to God the Father? No way. Let's keep reading. It says in, where did we leave off? Somebody help me out. We read 10? Okay, let's look at verse 11. Believe me that I'm in the Father and the Father in me, or else believe me for the very work's sake. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me the works that I do shall he do also in greater works than these shall he do because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it. If ye love me, keep my commandments, and I'll pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever, even the spirit of truth. So right here, what do we see? All three members of the Godhead in one verse. Because Jesus is talking, the Son is talking, and he says, I'll pray the Father, and he'll give you another comforter. Who's the comforter? The Holy Spirit. So you have the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost right there. It says in verse 17, even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not, neither knoweth them, but ye know him, for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you. Now stop right there. Here's another proof text for the oneness, the modalism. They'll say, I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you. And then they'll say, see right there, that shows that the comforter and Jesus are just identical. They'll try to make no distinction between the two. But stop and think about, and you know what, which of the twins was it that shared this with me? Which one was it? Who gets the credit? Jesse? No, I'm just kidding. But anyway, because we were talking about this, and we were going over this, and Jesse had a great point about this because he said, I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you. Because after the resurrection, after he ascends to the father, he comes to them, and he gives them the comforter. Because he breathes on them, and he says, receive ye the Holy Ghost. Think about that. So when he says, I'm going to give you another comforter, I won't leave you comfortless, I will come to you, he's not saying, I'm going to come to you in the sense of, I'm the comforter and I'm going to come to you. No, he's saying, I'm going to send the comforter, I'm going to come to you, because if you get to the end of the book of John, what happens? Jesus comes to them and breathes on them, and they receive the Holy Ghost, the comforter. So it's pretty easy to understand, thanks to Jesse. Let me turn there to verse 20. At that day, ye shall know that I am in my father, and ye in me, and I in you. So let me ask you, are we God the Father? Well yeah, because I mean, if he said, I'm in the Father and the Father's in me, I guess that makes us the Father too, because he's in us and we're in him, right? Wrong. At that day, ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Look at verse 24. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings, and the word which ye hear is not mine, it's not mine, but the Father's which sent me. But supposedly Jesus is God the Father? How does that work? That's why, I mean look, ask Brother Segura. Brother Segura sat right there next to him. My wife was sitting right there when he said, I believe that Jesus is God the Father. But he says, wait a minute, it's not mine, it's the Father's. Look at verse 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I've said unto you. Now let me just stop right there on that term, in my name. This is an often misunderstood phrase, and it doesn't have to be, it's pretty easy actually. Brother Garrett Kirschway did a whole sermon on this a year ago, where he expounded this term in the name of. He did a sermon called In the Name of Jesus, and this becomes real important on this discussion of modalism, because the Bible says that we're to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. That's what we're commanded to baptize, in the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost. But the oneness teaching teaches, no, no, no, you baptize in the name of Jesus only. And here's their argument, well what's the name of the Father? Jesus. What's the name of the Son? Jesus. What's the name of the Holy Ghost? Jesus. That's their argument. But they just don't even understand the term, in the name of. So let's just back up the clock about 60 years, okay? Stop in the name of love, before you break my heart. So what's the name of love, huh? What's the name of the Father? It's the name of the Holy Ghost. What's the name of love? See they clearly don't understand what in the name of even means. When the Supreme is saying, stop in the name of love, what they're saying is, on the authority of love, because of love, on behalf of love. It's like this, stop in the name of the law! Isn't that what the police would yell if they're chasing you in an old movie? Stop in the name of the law! So what's the name of the law? Can you tell me what that name is? And look, if I wrote a letter on behalf of three different people, let's say I'm a lawyer, and I write a letter on behalf of John and James and Tom, and I said, hey, I'm writing on behalf of John, James and Tom, you need to cease and desist what you're doing. I'm writing in the name of James, John, Tom, and you need to cease and desist. That doesn't mean they all have the same name, folks. Well, name is singular. The name is the Father. What's the Father's name? It's Jesus. No, no, no. Stop in the name of love. Stop spreading heresy in the name of love. Stop teaching lies in the name of love. Before you break my heart, amen? Think it over! For crying out loud, you know? I mean, it's just, you know, this stuff's not that hard to understand. In the name of means on behalf of, by the authority of, or representing. That's what in the name of means. And so, what verse am I in? Somebody help me out. Verse 26, it says, but the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name. He will send him on my behalf. I want to send you the Comforter, so the Father's going to send the Comforter on my behalf or in my name. I want the Comforter to come, so the Father's going to send him on my behalf. Right? On my behalf. On the behalf of. So it's pretty easy to understand. But Tyler Baker has been telling people, oh, when I go to Jacksonville, I'm going to baptize differently. He's going to baptize, and you know, he didn't want to freak people out too much. He wants to do the frog in the hot water so that they don't just see that he's just a total heretic, a oneness heretic. So he said, I'm going to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and that name is Jesus. That's what he was going to say. So look, this heresy would have come out the first Sunday anyway. The first Sunday of the church this would have come out, and a bunch of people would have moved there, and gone there, and joined, and more damage would have been done. Because you know what? If he started teaching this oneness thing, even from the first Sunday, I would have called him out as a heretic. And look, let me just make this clear. I'm not going to call people out on heretics if they disagree with me on Bible prophecy. I'm not going to call somebody out on a heretic if I disagree with their music. I'm not going to call somebody a heretic even if they preach just false doctrine. Like even if they just said, hey, drinking alcohol is fine. Just don't get drunk. I wouldn't even call that a heretic. I mean, it's false. It's wicked. It's wrong. But look, when you're tampering with the Trinity, though, that's heresy. When you're tampering with salvation, the nature of God, the nature of Jesus, the nature of salvation, the nature of the Word of God, that's heresy, friend. I'm not just trying to throw that word around. And everybody's a heretic, and everything's heresy. The oneness doctrine is heresy. And to sit there and say, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, and that name is Jesus, just shows you don't even understand the term in the name of in the first place. And you're teaching modalism. You're teaching oneness at that point. Now that's a big deal. That matters. Look down at your Bible there in verse number 28. It says, you've heard how I said unto you, I go away and come again unto you. If you love me, you would rejoice because I said I go unto the Father. All right, here's the coup de grace. For my Father is greater than I. I mean, just when you think, I mean, look, we could close our, we're only two-thirds of the way through the book of John. We could close our Bibles and go home a long time ago. We could have closed our Bibles at chapter one, but I mean, come on. We've seen evidence after evidence after evidence after evidence after evidence. And don't say, oh, you guys just didn't know. Look, I've taught the Trinity, friend. Get my sermon from two years ago. I did a sermon two years ago on the Trinity. And you know what? Get Garrett's sermon. And he heard Garrett's sermon, or a whole sermon. And look, Garrett was repetitive in that sermon. I didn't even go back and listen to that sermon. I did not listen to the recording. I was there a year ago, but I didn't go back and listen to the recording. And I was talking about this last night, and I said, you know, that in the name of means on behalf of, on the account of, representing, and they're like, how do you remember all the points from that sermon? And I was just thinking, like, he repeated it like 20 times. You know, he really drove that in, that point, you know. He said, you know, by the authority of, on behalf of, representing, you know. And so he really drove that in. And so there's no excuse for these people. They've been taught. They've heard this stuff. They've learned. Have they read the book of John? But yet they've gone into this heresy, and they want to take as many people with them. I mean, I can't even tell you. There are tons. I didn't realize how deep it went until after I put that video on YouTube. People are coming forward by the droves. Like, oh, yeah. We were on the way to a soul-winning marathon. He told, he talked to me about that the whole drive, and this guy, he was talking to me about it. And, oh, that's, Elliot talked to me about it. Rick talked to me about it. Tyler talked to me about it. I mean, just tons of people. They were trying to spread this junk all over the church. Go to chapter 15. Chapter 15, because we're not going to close our Bibles and go home. We're going to make it all the way to the end. John chapter 15, verse 1, I'm the true vine, and my father is the husbandman. Verse 10, if you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love, even as I've kept my father's commandments, and abide in his love. You clearly see a chain of command. It says, my father is greater than I. I do always those things which please him. I don't do my own will. I do his will. I keep his commandments. Verse, go to chapter 16. John chapter 16, verse 10, it says, of righteousness, because I go to my father, and you see me no more. Verse 13, howbeit when he, the spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth. Watch this. This is talking about the Holy Spirit, the spirit of truth, the comforter. He shall not speak of himself. But whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak, and he will show you things to come. How can this be true if modalism is true? If he is the father, if he is the son, if he's talking to himself, if he's praying to himself, then how can the Holy Spirit not speak of himself? He'll take of mine, the sons, and show it unto them. And then he goes on to say, all things that the father hath are mine. Verse 15, therefore said I, that he shall take of mine and show it unto you. A little while, and ye shall not see me, and again a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the father. Behold, the hour cometh, yea is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone, and yet I'm not alone. I'm not alone, because the father is with me. I mean, can I really say that? If I was playing the role of pastor, I'm not alone, the husband's with me. I'm not alone, because the father is with me, the pastor's with me, the husband's with me. No, no, no. I couldn't say that if modalism was true. I'm not alone, because the guitar player's with me. I'm not alone, because the bass player's with me. I couldn't say that, because I am the bass player, according to them, right? It's a one-man band, they said, because this is what he said. He said, well, the Trinity is like a three-piece band. You got one guy playing this, and I don't think that's a good illustration of the Trinity, but that's what he said. Trinity's like one band made up of three band members, but he said this is the one-man band. Well, no way does that jive with the book of John, not even close, not even close. Go to chapter 17. John chapter 17 says, and now, oh father, glorify thou me with thine own self, with thine own self, with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Another throwback to John 1-1, right? Look at verse 11, and now I'm no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee, holy father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one as we are. That they may be one as we are. Okay, I in them, and thou in me, he talks about in this chapter. That doesn't mean that you are one and the same. Go to John chapter 20. John chapter 20 says in verse 17, Jesus saith unto her, touch me not, for I'm not yet ascended to my father, but go to my brethren and say unto them, I ascend unto my father, and your father, and to my God, and your God. Let's just read that again. Jesus saith unto her, touch me not, for I'm not yet ascended to my father, but go to my brethren and saying to them I ascended to my father and your father and to my God and your God." And look, this doesn't take away from the deity of Christ. John 1, 1 is the starting point. You need to understand John 1, 1 and then it all makes sense to you that God is sometimes referring to the Father and sometimes it's referring to the Trinity, the three that are one. Jesus is God. Look, make no bones about it. There is a mountain of evidence that Jesus is God. That's why also that's not even debated in any Baptist church because right now I'm showing you the mountain of evidence for the Trinity. I could do another sermon where I show the mountain of evidence for the deity of Christ. Nobody's questioning the deity of Christ. What we're questioning is the Trinity versus this oneness heresy, okay, just to make that super clear. Verse 21 says, then said Jesus to them, peace be unto you as my Father has sent me, even so send I you. So that's all I had there from the book of John, but I'm going to cheat a little and go to another book that John wrote. But look, come on, I sufficiently demolished it from the book of John with four pages of verses from John again and again and again and again, but I want to go to Revelation just because I want to show you how half-baked and ridiculous these foolish ideas are. And these guys, they think they're so smart, they're so puffed up, they're so arrogant, they're so full of themselves, they talk down to other people in the church, they act like you don't know the Bible, you don't study the Bible like we do, and they know the Bible so well. They're just such scholars that they are ready to just turn the doctrine of Christianity on its head because everybody's wrong and except moi, just this puffed up arrogant prideful. So I was talking to one of these guys and he brought this out and then I was talking to another guy who has been influenced by these guys that he's not here tonight, he's on the fence on this doctrine. And I don't think he's a bad guy, so I'm not going to call him out or anything because he's on the fence, let him pick a side. But he's on the fence right now and I was talking some sense into him and he said, I don't know, I don't know what I believe. And I said to him, I said to him everything I'm saying to you right now, or at least some of what I'm saying to you right now. And he just came back out, he kept bringing up this one thing, he's just like, yeah, but I just keep coming back to this thing in Revelation, the throne. I'm looking at Revelation 6, I'm looking at Revelation 19, and it's just the throne. And I'm just thinking, what are you talking about? So last night the same thing was coming up, where a guy in the preaching class that had been approached by these guys, he said, man, they kept showing me something in Revelation about the throne. He said, Tyler himself, Tyler Baker kept showing me this thing in Revelation about the throne. And he said, I don't remember what it was because it didn't really make sense to me, it went over my head. I don't know what he's talking about, this thing with the throne, what's the throne? So we're all in the preaching class, we're trying to figure it out last night. And we're looking up, we're Googling throne, we're going to BibleGateway.com, we're typing in the word throne, we're like, okay, here's the verses that mention throne, we look up every verse on throne in Revelation, we could not figure out what they're talking about, we're just like, I don't get it, I don't know what they're saying. So I was studying my Bible this afternoon and I'm like, man, what are they talking about? It just kind of came back to my head. So I said, yeah, I'm gonna call one of these guys and ask them, what's the throne, what's the throne thing that Tyler has been telling people? Because I mean, this guy, I mean, this guy's a theologian, this guy's real smart. So he's, he's, he's, I mean, I can't hold a candle, but I can try. So I'm just like, what's the throne thing? And I called one of these guys and he said, well, it's just that when you look at Revelation 6, because Revelation 6 is a pretty famous passage, right? So, you know, when you look at Revelation 6, verse 16, and said to the mountains and rocks, fall on us and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, and they said, you know what, it's, it's the Lamb that's sitting on that throne, they said. That's what they got out of that verse. It's the Lamb that's sitting on the throne. Okay, and they said, and then when you look at Revelation 20, said when you look at Revelation 20, it says in verse 11, I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small, and great, and before God, but look, we all, I'm like, okay, but I said, are you saying that it's the Lamb that's sitting on that throne? And in verse 6, I said, is that what you're saying? He's like, yeah, that's what I see there. He said, yeah, he said, Revelation, go back to Revelation 6, 16. He said, yeah, Revelation 6, 16, it's the Lamb that's sitting on the throne. It says, and said to the mountains and rocks, fall on us and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of his wrath has come, and he shall be able to say. And they just thought like, I mean, this was just like the coolest discovery ever. I mean, this is amazing. Okay, but why don't we just, how about we just back up just one chapter and read chapter 5. What does it say in chapter 5, verse 1? And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book, written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. Look at verse 6. And I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne. Bam! I mean, I guess that's what you say next when you baptize people, right? First it goes from the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, to in the name of Jesus. And then it goes to just bam, bam, bam, bam, like Todd Bentley, right? Like Pentecostal Charismatic Todd Bentley. That's the next step. Bam, bam, bam! Friends, look at this. And you say, oh, you know, you have a bad spirit. You better know I do. When people come in here and try to start a cult and try to preach heresy and try to split our church and they lift themselves up all arrogantly and all puffed up, they're so smart. But he, quote from Tyler Baker, people should come to Jacksonville because they should go to a church that's closer to the truth than faithful word while he's on our payroll. That's what he says. Go to the one that's closer to the truth, Mr. Tyler Baker, theologian. Look, friend, is there anybody here who doesn't see what I just showed you, which is just as plain as the nose on your face, that the one who's sitting on the throne has a book in his hand and the lamb approaches and takes the book out of the hand of him that sits on the throne? I mean, does anybody have any, children, toddlers, do we have any questions? But these guys are so foolish. They're not reading the Bible. They think, oh, reading the Bible. Look, I know for a fact these guys have only read the Bible, some of them, a handful of times. Now, Tyler Baker claims that he boasts of reading the Bible a multitude of times. Well, you know what? That just tells me, you know, he doesn't understand the Bible. Is he even saved? How can you read the book of John as many times as you claim or read the Bible as many times as you claim? I'm afraid of you if you're even saved. I don't know. But the Bible says here in Revelation, crystal clear, but here's the thing, they're not reading chapter five. They're turning to their famous passages, chapter six, chapter 20, and formulating half baked, half done, half thought out. You know, it's like the first time you ever read the book of John and you're in chapter three and it says that, you know, Jesus is baptizing more of the people than John the Baptist. And you're like, oh, Jesus baptizes people. And then you get a couple of verses later and it says, well, Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, but he himself baptized not, his disciples did it. And you're like, oh, okay, now I get, you know, it's like it's so half baked that it's like it's all based on chapter six without even looking at chapter five, without even glancing. I mean, I could put, I could do like an eye test and put chapter five like this far away and see that it's not the lamb sitting on that throne. If I look real hard from here, I could see it from here, that it's not the lamb sitting on that throne, but they get in the soul winning van, hey kid, would you like to learn about the Trinity, being a false doctrine? Hey kid, would you like some candy? Hey new believer, hey, you're new to the church, come over to our house for a barbecue, we'll tell you about the oneness. And you say, oh, you're, yeah, I am, I'm taking the gloves off. These people have been ripping us off and lying to us and cheating us and abusing every privilege and just misusing the office of a deacon and misusing the trust placed in them. They ought to be taken to task. And you know what, if these, and you say, well, are you saying they're not even saved? Look, I'm saying this, if they listen to this sermon and they still believe that crap, they're not saved. And all God's people said, if they listen to this sermon and they still believe that crap, they're not saved. If they listen to this sermon and say, wow, I'm sorry, we were wrong, we screwed up, then I'll say, okay, maybe they were just puffed up, maybe they just got a little bit carried away. I mean, right, I mean, and look, I'm okay with people having different opinions about this because it's hard to say what's going on with these people. Are they just Judases, are they just foolish, are they just arrogant? And look, and look, I'm not trying to put any pressure on anybody, just be honest with me because it's okay to have a different opinion. I mean, who thinks that if they listen to this sermon and they still believe this crap that they're not saved? Who thinks? Who's leaning that way? I mean, that's where I'm leaning. You know, and I, see, I've never really had to ask myself this question before because the only people I've ever had in the last, let's see, I've been sowing out for 18 years, the last 18 years of sowing, the only people I've ever had come from me with this oneness thing or this Jesus only was people who were coming to me and they were, they were like a hardcore Pentecostal, so they weren't even close to being right on the gospel. So I never thought of like, what if a saved person believes in oneness? Like that thought never came to my mind because I just never ran into it. So this is like a new thing to me. I mean, I know if people deny the deity of Christ, they're for sure not saved, but it's like just saved people believing in oneness doctrine, modalism? It's new to me. So I'm just kind of taken aback by it and I'm trying to figure out how this could happen. How could it happen? Now, if they come and say, hey, we were wrong, we screwed up, we're at false doctrine, you know, then I would say, okay, maybe they just got carried away. Maybe they're just being foolish. But the way they went about and they snuck around, I don't know. It's weird. It's premeditated, you know, but I'll tell you this though. If they, if anyone who's cast out repents, it can always come back. But let me say this. They're not going to be teaching anyone anything, they're not going to be put in preaching positions. They're never going to be ordained as a janitor, you know, and, and they're not, and they're not going to be teaching in our ministries or preaching because these guys have need that one teach them again, which be the first principles of the oracles of God and are such as have need of milk and not of strong meat. These guys are not qualified. At best, a best case scenario, these guys are not qualified to teach anyone, shouldn't be teaching. They're puffed up, vainly puffed up in their minds and formulated strange and diverse doctrines. And listen, if you have any questions about the Trinity, if you have any questions about this doctrine, if you have any questions about these things, come see me after the service, I will not rip your head off unless you're a oneness then I will rip your head off. No, I'm just kidding. But anyway, come see me after service. If you have a question, I'll be glad to talk to you and have a civil discussion with you, but I don't think anybody in here, I'd be surprised that people have a lot of questions after the sermon. I think it's pretty clear. I mean, and you know, you could ask me, you could ask brother Gary, you could ask brother say Gora. You could ask other men in the church. I mean, it's not, you could, you could probably ask a little child, would you ask my daughter after the service? Ask my, ask my, ask my a four year old, but anyway, let's bow your heads and have a word of prayer.