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Romans chapter 16 verse number 17 now I beseech you brethren mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned and avoid them for they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ but their own belly and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple so this is talking about deceivers that are causing divisions contrary to the doctrine which you have learned is it again is this something that that pastor has been accused of no in fact it's the opposite is that he's not you know being accused of causing divisions but being ecumenical just say you know ecumenical means and just just be aware what ecumenical means and what it's always meant and that there isn't just all these multiple definitions and when it's used especially in religious context it's people trying to bring about like all the religions of the world together or at the very least crossing all denominational lines and saying hey let's all join together and work together and we're going to all work for this common cause that's ecumenical ism attending a Baptist conference where all the speakers are Baptist is not ecumenical ism and you know if you're going to judge ecumenical ism by who's in the audience then how about you look at your own self right how about you look at at any other event oh well you're ecumenical because other people showed up to that because you could control first of all who shows up to an event I bet if we if we held and this is I you know what I tried to do this and we're truth by the church have a prophecy conference well and I did do this now I didn't get as much interest as I want I didn't get the word out in time but you know I wanted to do I wanted to get people from other backgrounds and other religions into our church to hear that conference why because people are interested in end time stuff a lot of people are interested that's it's very it's it's it's it's something that people be willing to come to a Baptist Church maybe even if they're a Catholic and you know why I want to do that because I want them to hear the truth because I want to be able to teach them the truth not because I'm joining with with Catholic priests and and you know these other people and saying hey let's all do this work no but I am trying to get other people to hear the truth that's not ecumenical that's trying to reach people with the truth so it's silly and ridiculous okay but that's what's been brought forward now second Thessalonians chapter 3 is that is one more place where the Bible talks about people who are supposed to we're supposed to separate from verse number 10 of second Thessalonians chapter 3 Bible says for even when we were with you this week commanded you that if any would not work neither should he eat for we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly working not at all but our busybodies now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ and with quietness they work and eat their own bread but ye brethren be not weary in well-doing and if any man obey not our word by this epistle note that man and have no company with him that he may be ashamed okay we see another example right okay note him have no company with them you're breaking fellowship with someone why because they're not working and eating their own bread but being busybodies and then says yet count him not as an enemy but admonish him as a brother but this is discipline this is the tough love where you're saying you know what I'm not gonna fellowship with you anymore because you ought to be working and and and paying for yourself and providing for yourself and not just being a busybody with all this idle time on your hands and getting involved in other people's business isn't it interesting that it's the busybodies that are consumed with other men's matters they're the ones that are supposed to be noted and not having company with but what do we see a bunch of busybodies getting involved in other people's business and all who are your friends know what do you do and you're gonna be the one breaking fellowship that's not what I see in the Bible