(Disclaimer: This transcript is auto-generated and may contain mistakes.) But look, this is the unequivocal proof right here. In Hebrews 11, talking about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Look what it says in verse 9. By faith he, he is Abraham, by faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise. For he looked for a what? He looked for a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God. What city was he looking for? The heavenly Jerusalem, the new Jerusalem. It's obvious and the Bible proves it further, let's keep reading. He said in verse 10, he looked for a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God. But when he got there, he was turned away at the door because this is only for the church age saints. The bride of Christ, you know, it's like the silly rabbit trickster for kids, you know. Silly Abraham, you know, the bride of Christ is only the church. It's not the Old Testament saints, it's not for you. I mean what kind of nonsense is this doctrine? People need to quit listening to Peter Ruckman and quit listening to all these hyper dispensationalists and all this man-made Clarence Larkin, C.I. Scofield and they need to get in the Word of God, they need to get a King James Bible and read it and believe it and study it and quit repeating things that have no basis in the Bible. There is no basis for saying that that city is only going to be for those who are part of the church age. There is no church age. The Bible says glory to God in the church throughout all ages, amen. Ephesians 3.21. But let's keep reading. It says, he looked for a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God. Okay, jump down if you would to verse 13. These all died in faith. Not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off and were persuaded of them and embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth, for they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country and truly if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned, but now they desire a better country that is in heavenly, wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God for he hath prepared for them a city. Who did he prepare it for? Old Testament saints is who he prepared it for. That's why 12 of their names are on the foundation. Go to chapter 12 of Hebrews. Hebrews talks about this in chapter 11, chapter 12, and chapter 13. Look at chapter 12 verse 22, it says, but ye are come unto the Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. Isn't that the city we're reading about in Revelation 21? It says that ye are come to the heavenly Jerusalem and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn. You say, oh Pastor Anderson, see right there, it's the church. Yeah, church means assembly. We're all going to be assembled. Again, get this church age out of your mind. Moses was with the church in the wilderness. Let me say it again. And it's funny how these people claim to believe the King James Bible is the word of God. And then they don't believe you when you try to show them Acts 7, this is he that was with the church in the wilderness. Oh, that's a mistranslation, no, no, no, it was the church in the wilderness. Church means congregation. Look, when we get to heaven, that church, that assembly, that throng, that city, it's going to include Old Testament saints and New Testament saints alike. It says to the general assembly and church of the firstborn which are written in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect. Now look at chapter 13, it says in verse 13, let us go therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach, for here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. So look, in chapter 11, the Old Testament saints were seeking a city. In chapter 13, we as New Testament saints are seeking a city, do you see that? And then in chapter 12, in the middle chapter there, we see that the heavenly Jerusalem is going to be an assembly of both. And so it's crystal clear, I don't know what else to say.