WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:15.500 Have faith in God, he watches o'er his own. He cannot fail, he must prevail. Have faith in God, have faith in God. 00:15.500 --> 00:36.000 Have faith in God in your pain and your sorrow. His heart is touched with your grief and despair. Cast all your cares and your burdens upon him, and leave them there, oh, leave them there. 00:36.000 --> 00:57.000 Have faith in God, he's on his throne. Have faith in God, he watches o'er his own. He cannot fail, he must prevail. Have faith in God, have faith in God. 00:57.000 --> 01:14.000 Sweetly, Lord, have we heard thee calling from all o'er me. And we see where the good friends calling lead us to thee. 01:14.000 --> 01:31.000 Good friends of Jesus, that make the path they go. We will call out the steps of Jesus, where, where they go. 01:31.000 --> 01:47.000 Though they lead o'er the cold, dark mountains, seeking his sheep. Lord, along by so cold, bound mountains, help me knowing. 01:47.000 --> 02:04.000 Good friends of Jesus, that make the path they go. We will call out the steps of Jesus, where, where they go. 02:04.000 --> 02:20.000 If they lead through the temple, holy, preaching the word. For in the homes of the poor and lowly, serving the Lord. 02:20.000 --> 02:35.000 Good friends of Jesus, that make the path they go. We will call out the steps of Jesus, where, where they go. 02:35.000 --> 02:53.000 And at last, when on high he sees us, our journey done. We will rest in the steps of Jesus, where, where they go. 02:53.000 --> 03:11.000 Good friends of Jesus, that make the path they go. We will call out the steps of Jesus, where, where they go. 03:12.000 --> 03:27.000 Amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me. 03:27.000 --> 03:43.000 My love was lost, but now I found, was blind, but now I see. 03:43.000 --> 03:58.000 What grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved. 03:58.000 --> 04:13.000 How precious he, that grace of him, he a right first he lead. 04:13.000 --> 04:28.000 The Lord has promised good to me, his word I will say first. 04:28.000 --> 04:43.000 He will my shield and portion me, as long as life endures. 04:43.000 --> 04:58.000 To many dangers, fools and scares, I have already come. 04:58.000 --> 05:21.000 His grace and love, he saved us all. When grace will lead me, when we've been there ten thousand years. 05:21.000 --> 05:45.000 Bright shining as the sun, we know that's days to see God's grace, and when we first begun. 05:45.000 --> 06:02.000 I stand amazed in the presence of Jesus, the rest of me. And wonder how he could love me, my sinner, and give the plea. 06:02.000 --> 06:19.000 Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, and my song shall ever be. Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, is my Savior's love for me. 06:19.000 --> 06:36.000 For me it was in the garden, he prayed on my will but mine. He had no tears for his eye, he's the sun dropped to fly for mine. 06:36.000 --> 06:53.000 Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, and my song shall ever be. Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, is my Savior's love for me. 06:53.000 --> 07:10.000 It is the angels we help, and the king from the world up high. To comfort him in the sorrows, we gore for my soul and mind. 07:10.000 --> 07:27.000 Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, and my song shall ever be. Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, is my Savior's love for me. 07:27.000 --> 07:44.000 He took my sins and my sorrows, he made them his area. He bore the burdens of hell, he had suffered and died alone. 07:44.000 --> 08:02.000 Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, and my song shall ever be. Oh how marvelous, oh how wonderful, is my Savior's love for me. 08:14.000 --> 08:16.000 Thank you. 08:44.000 --> 09:11.000 Good morning everyone and welcome to Steadfast Baptist Church. It's great to see everybody here. If we could find our seats, we will get started with this morning's song service. 09:11.000 --> 09:16.000 And once we found a seat, let's grab a hymnal and we'll go to song number 56 together. 09:23.000 --> 09:29.000 Our first song will be song number 56, When We All Get to Heaven. 09:29.000 --> 09:41.000 Song number 56, sing like you're excited about when we get to heaven. Song number 56, When We All Get to Heaven. Let's all sing that out together. 09:41.000 --> 10:00.000 Sing the wondrous love of Jesus, sing his mercy and his grace. In the mansion, bright and blessed, he'll prepare for us a place. 10:00.000 --> 10:19.000 When we all get to heaven, what a day of rejoicing that would be. When we all see Jesus, we'll sing and shout the victory. 10:19.000 --> 10:37.000 While we walk the pilgrim pathway, clouds will overspread the sky. But when traveling, days are over, not a shadow, not a sky. 10:37.000 --> 10:56.000 When we all get to heaven, what a day of rejoicing that will be. When we all see Jesus, we'll sing and shout the victory. 10:56.000 --> 11:14.000 Let us then be true and faithful, trusting, serving every day. Just one glimpse of him in glory will not cause a heart to break. 11:14.000 --> 11:33.000 When we all get to heaven, what a day of rejoicing that will be. When we all see Jesus, we'll sing and shout the victory. 11:33.000 --> 11:52.000 Onward to the prize before us, soon his beauty will behold. Soon the pearly gates will open, we shall tread the streets of gold. 11:52.000 --> 12:11.000 When we all get to heaven, what a day of rejoicing that will be. When we all see Jesus, we'll sing and shout the victory. 12:22.000 --> 12:29.000 Thank you, Lord. We just ask that you help us sing them loudly this morning and just fill us all with your spirit as we hear your word preached. 12:29.000 --> 12:32.000 And we just ask all these things in Jesus' name. Amen. 12:32.000 --> 12:43.000 All right, for our next song, let's go to song number 363. 12:43.000 --> 12:55.000 One of my personal favorites, Wonderful Words of Life, song number 363. Let's all sing that out together. 12:55.000 --> 13:13.000 Sing them over again to me, Wonderful Words of Life. Let me more of their beauty see, Wonderful Words of Life. 13:13.000 --> 13:40.000 Words of life and beauty, Teach me faith and duty, Beautiful words, Wonderful words, Wonderful words of life. Beautiful words, Wonderful words, Wonderful words of life. 13:40.000 --> 13:57.000 Christ the Blessed One gives to all, Wonderful words of life. Sinnerless to the loving call, Wonderful words of life. 13:57.000 --> 14:23.000 Also freely given, wooing us to heaven, Beautiful words, Wonderful words, Wonderful words of life. Beautiful words, Wonderful words, Wonderful words of life. 14:23.000 --> 14:41.000 Sweetly echo the gospel call, Wonderful words of life. Offer pardon and peace to all, Wonderful words of life. 14:41.000 --> 15:07.000 Jesus, Holy Savior, sanctify forever, Beautiful words, Wonderful words, Wonderful words of life. Beautiful words, Wonderful words, Wonderful words of life. 15:07.000 --> 15:12.000 Great job. 15:12.000 --> 15:19.000 Good morning. Thank you so much for coming to Steadfast Baptist Church. If you didn't get a bulletin already and like one, just lift your hands nice and high, we'll get a bulletin to you. 15:19.000 --> 15:35.000 We have our Bible memory passage, Romans 10 verse 20. We're getting really close to completing. If you can quote the entire chapter, Romans 10, you can get a special prize, as well as our kids can get a prize each week at our midweek service if they can memorize the verse of the week. 15:35.000 --> 15:46.000 On the inside we have service times, soul winning times, church stats, a list of several expecting ladies. Please be in prayer for them. Upcoming events, our Mother's Day brunch is going to be May 9th. 15:46.000 --> 15:58.000 And then we have our Red Hot Preaching Conference is a Friends event that's happening in Sacramento, California, May 15th to the 16th. We're having and hosting our conference May 20th to the 24th. 15:58.000 --> 16:09.000 It's the Anti-Azure Conference. If you haven't signed up, I just encourage you on the back, there is a QR code. You can go ahead and register just to give us some kind of an idea of what to anticipate for the event. 16:09.000 --> 16:19.000 But we'll have lots of guest preachers. I'll probably make another video just kind of announcing some stuff. But Wednesday night, we're still going to have our service at 7 p.m. 16:19.000 --> 16:30.000 So I'll be preaching that Wednesday, 7 p.m. And then we're going to have Pastor Aaron Thompson coming and preaching that Thursday. So the next day, the 21st, he's going to be preaching that Thursday, 7 p.m. 16:30.000 --> 16:42.000 Then we have Friday evening, Pastor Stephen Anderson is going to be preaching at 7 p.m. And then we're going to have a Saturday morning service similar to our Sunday morning service at the same time, 1030. 16:42.000 --> 16:55.000 Pastor Dylan Oz from Anchor Baptist Church is going to be preaching for us. And then Sunday morning, we're going to be having Pastor Bruce Mejia, First Works, preach for us our normal regular 1030 service. 16:55.000 --> 17:05.000 And then I'll be preaching again that evening. So that's pretty much kind of what the preaching schedule looks like. We do have other fellowship and fun activities and stuff they'll be doing throughout the week. 17:05.000 --> 17:17.000 Like I said, I'll try to make a video also maybe post in our group and put it in our bulletin so that way you guys can prepare for that. But it should be a lot of fun. Really looking forward to the conference. 17:17.000 --> 17:25.000 There's a soul winning conference in Europe. It's going to be hosted in Germany in June. We have Father's Day, June 21st. 17:25.000 --> 17:35.000 Fiji missions trip is one of our friends, Pastor Kevin Sepulveda over on the other side of the world if you'd like to go over there. We have a soul winning marathon coming up in Mesquite, August 22nd. 17:35.000 --> 17:45.000 Our Barbados missions trip, September 7th through the 12th. We've already been trying to get prepared for this particular event. We had a scouting trip that went out there. 17:45.000 --> 17:55.000 It was very receptive. We have some opportunities potentially to get into schools and stuff. I can't promise anything. We don't know, but it looks like there could be some good opportunities over there. 17:55.000 --> 18:07.000 We already booked some accommodations. So if you can get yourself a flight to go out there and then maybe save a little bit of money for some food, we do have a lot of lodging that's already reserved for people that want to go on the trip. 18:07.000 --> 18:17.000 It's going to be kind of a first come first serve for the most part. I think anybody from our church that really wants to go, and if you don't tell us last minute, you should probably be okay. 18:17.000 --> 18:27.000 If you do want to go on the trip, just buy your flight and just send us your itinerary and we'll mark you down on the sheet as checked in for the event. 18:27.000 --> 18:37.000 Sometimes people are always asking, like, what do I got to do? You know, buy a flight or your flights and then just email them to us with your itinerary and we'll mark you down as confirmed for the trip. 18:37.000 --> 18:47.000 And so looking forward to that as well. Heritage's Lord Conference, October 9th through 11th. We have our Chili Cook Off the 31st and then there's a preaching boot camp in November if you'd like to participate in that. 18:47.000 --> 18:57.000 On the back is our prayer list and then again some QR codes if you'd like to register. You can also register for the Barbados trip on our site here, so that's another great way to do it. 19:03.000 --> 19:11.000 We do have a kind of just spur of the moment pop-up lunch that we're going to do this afternoon. So if you want to stick around, everyone's invited to have lunch with us. 19:11.000 --> 19:21.000 We're kind of having a barbecue potluck and so it should be a lot of fun. Thanks to those who brought some desserts and stuff. I'm sure they'll get destroyed, all right? 19:21.000 --> 19:31.000 But we'll go ahead and sing our Psalm of the Morning, Psalm 150, Psalm 150. It's in our special Psalm binders. 19:41.000 --> 19:53.000 All right, that was Psalm 150. You can also look at page number 20 in your binder, Psalm 150. Let's all sing that out together. 20:11.000 --> 20:38.000 Praise him according to his excellence and greatness. Praise him with the sound of the trumpet. Praise him with love, psaltery and heart. Praise him with the pinpril and dance. Praise him with strength, instruments and organs. 20:38.000 --> 21:06.000 Praise him upon the loud cymbals. Praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. Let everything that at breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord. Praise God the Father. Praise God the Son. 21:06.000 --> 21:18.000 Praise God the Holy Ghost. Praise God in free person. 21:18.000 --> 21:29.000 Great job everybody. Now as the offering plates are being passed around, go ahead and open your Bibles to the book of Mark, chapter number seven. That's Mark chapter number seven. 22:06.000 --> 22:32.000 Mark seven, the Bible reads, Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. 22:32.000 --> 22:45.000 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with the file, that is to say with unwashing hands, they found fault. For the Pharisees and all the Jews, except they wash their hands off, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. 22:45.000 --> 22:57.000 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups and pots, brazen vessels, and of tables. 22:57.000 --> 23:15.000 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples, according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashing hands? He answered and sent it to them, Well hath the psias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 23:15.000 --> 23:29.000 How be it in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men as the washing of pots and cups, and many other such like things ye do. 23:29.000 --> 23:36.000 And he said unto them, Fool well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 23:36.000 --> 23:43.000 For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother, and whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 23:43.000 --> 23:54.000 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corbin, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever, thou mightest be profited by me, he shall be free. 23:55.000 --> 24:03.000 And he suffered him no more to do aught for his father or his mother, making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered. 24:03.000 --> 24:17.000 And many such like things do ye. And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Harken unto me every one of you, and understand, there is nothing from without a man that entering into him can defile him, but the things which come out of him. 24:18.000 --> 24:23.000 Those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. 24:23.000 --> 24:32.000 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable, and he sayeth unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? 24:32.000 --> 24:38.000 Do ye not perceive that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him? 24:38.000 --> 24:46.000 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats. 24:46.000 --> 24:50.000 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 24:50.000 --> 25:04.000 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 25:04.000 --> 25:08.000 All these evil things come from within and defile the man. 25:08.000 --> 25:16.000 And from thence he arose and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into a house, and would have no man know it, but he could not be hid. 25:16.000 --> 25:30.000 For a certain woman whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet, the woman was a Greek, a Syrophoenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter. 25:30.000 --> 25:38.000 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled, for it is not meat to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs. 25:38.000 --> 25:44.000 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord, yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs. 25:44.000 --> 25:49.000 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way, the devil is gone out of thy daughter. 25:49.000 --> 25:55.000 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed. 25:55.000 --> 26:03.000 And again departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis. 26:03.000 --> 26:10.000 And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech, and they beseech him to put his hand upon it. 26:10.000 --> 26:23.000 And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue, and looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, A patha, that is, be opened. 26:23.000 --> 26:31.000 And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain, and he charged them that they should tell no man. 26:31.000 --> 26:39.000 But the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it, and were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well. 26:39.000 --> 26:42.000 He maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak. 26:42.000 --> 26:44.000 Let's bow our heads for a word of prayer. 26:44.000 --> 26:48.000 Father in heaven, we thank you, Lord God, for this day and for this church service. 26:48.000 --> 27:07.000 I pray that you fill Pastor Shelley with your spirit, and help him to preach the message that you've laid on his heart with boldness, with clarity of mind, minimize distractions in the room, help us to pay close attention to the message, give us ears to hear, and soften hearts in the room, so that we can apply this sermon to our lives, and be more complete Christians. 27:07.000 --> 27:10.000 And I ask for these things in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. 27:10.000 --> 27:11.000 Amen. 27:11.000 --> 27:14.000 I want to start my sermon here in Mark chapter 7 verse 5. 27:14.000 --> 27:25.000 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? 27:25.000 --> 27:35.000 And he answered and said to them, Well, Aszias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 27:35.000 --> 27:42.000 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 27:42.000 --> 27:52.000 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men as the washing of pots and cups and many other such like things ye do. 27:52.000 --> 27:59.000 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 28:00.000 --> 28:14.000 So I'm kind of pausing here in the middle of this rebuke from the Lord Jesus Christ, but to teach the important principle that we should elevate the Bible or God's word or God's commands over tradition. 28:14.000 --> 28:22.000 And he doesn't say here, Jesus Christ doesn't say here that they screwed up the tradition. 28:22.000 --> 28:27.000 He doesn't say that they aren't observing the tradition correctly. 28:27.000 --> 28:31.000 He's saying that y'all's tradition is just going against the Bible. 28:31.000 --> 28:40.000 Because if you look specifically, you know, in this text, there's no indication that the tradition isn't been historically the same thing for a while. 28:40.000 --> 28:46.000 I mean, in verse five, it's the tradition of the elders and verse number seven. 28:46.000 --> 28:56.000 Jesus is saying teaching for doctrines the commandments of men, kind of alluding that what they're teaching are things men have been teaching for a really long time. 28:56.000 --> 28:59.000 He says in verse number eight, hold the tradition of men. 28:59.000 --> 29:03.000 Jesus admits and agrees with their rhetoric. 29:03.000 --> 29:05.000 Yeah, this is the tradition of men. 29:05.000 --> 29:09.000 He doesn't say that this tradition doesn't exist. 29:09.000 --> 29:12.000 He doesn't say that this isn't something that hasn't been happening for a long time. 29:12.000 --> 29:18.000 He agrees and just go ahead and acquiesce with the fact, hey, this is tradition. 29:18.000 --> 29:20.000 This is a legit tradition. 29:20.000 --> 29:22.000 But the problem is the tradition is wrong. 29:22.000 --> 29:27.000 The problem is, is that the word of God conflicts with your tradition. 29:27.000 --> 29:30.000 And so it's not the tradition that matters. 29:30.000 --> 29:34.000 It's just whatever God commanded is God's word that actually matters. 29:34.000 --> 29:39.000 And he's saying in verse nine that they have to reject the commandment of God. 29:39.000 --> 29:43.000 Why? So that they can keep their own tradition. 29:43.000 --> 29:49.000 So in order to stay on this course, in order to have this particular tradition, they have to do something. 29:49.000 --> 29:51.000 They have to stop believing the Bible. 29:51.000 --> 29:52.000 They can't use the Bible. 29:52.000 --> 29:55.000 They have to ignore the Bible specifically. 29:55.000 --> 30:09.000 Now, this particular idea that's being attributed to the Pharisees and the Sadducees and the scribes of Jesus Christ's day is very similar to what we have in our world today. 30:09.000 --> 30:14.000 And the scribes and the Pharisees would simply be the Catholic and the Orthodox. 30:15.000 --> 30:25.000 The Catholic and the Orthodox fit this particular idea very similarly to what Jesus is rebuking about the Pharisees and the Sadducees specifically. 30:25.000 --> 30:28.000 And, you know, I've talked a lot about the Catholic Church. 30:28.000 --> 30:32.000 I preach all sermons against the Catholic Church, but I've never really focused on the Orthodox. 30:32.000 --> 30:37.000 But this morning, that's what I'm going to do is I'm going to preach an entire sermon on the Orthodox being exposed. 30:37.000 --> 30:46.000 Now, the Orthodox Church is very similar to the Catholic Church in a lot of ways, especially to those who are looking from the outside in. 30:46.000 --> 30:51.000 You know, if you're a Catholic, you might think that the Orthodox is very different. 30:51.000 --> 30:53.000 If you're Orthodox, you might think the Catholic is very different. 30:53.000 --> 30:59.000 But to those outside of both of these particular cults, you would think that they're very similar. 30:59.000 --> 31:01.000 OK, and they have a lot of overlaps. 31:01.000 --> 31:02.000 They do have some differences. 31:02.000 --> 31:04.000 We're going to talk about that a little bit this morning. 31:04.000 --> 31:09.000 Now, again, I'm not I've never visited an Orthodox Church service. 31:09.000 --> 31:14.000 I guess I guess I have visited an Orthodox Church, but I've never been to an Orthodox service. 31:14.000 --> 31:19.000 So a lot of what I've researched and looked up is just kind of the general consensus. 31:19.000 --> 31:25.000 Anytime you talk about a large group of people like this, obviously, it's going to be nuances, differences, variations. 31:25.000 --> 31:27.000 Obviously, people to talk about Baptist. 31:27.000 --> 31:30.000 We know there's a lot of differences between even Baptist churches. 31:30.000 --> 31:37.000 OK, so a lot of this is just generally the understanding of what the Orthodox Church is like. 31:37.000 --> 31:41.000 But specifically, Orthodox really elevate tradition. 31:41.000 --> 31:42.000 That's very, very important to them. 31:42.000 --> 31:47.000 I want to go to Colossians, chapter number two, if you would go to Colossians, chapter number two. 31:47.000 --> 31:52.000 And I want to just try to give a little bit of a history lesson along with a lot of Bible this morning. 31:52.000 --> 31:59.000 But hopefully we can kind of all catch up. 31:59.000 --> 32:06.000 I think most people, including myself, don't really know much about the history of these particular organizations. 32:06.000 --> 32:11.000 And so I try to do my best to research it, to understand it. 32:11.000 --> 32:21.000 But essentially, when we talk about the Orthodox Church and we talk about the difference between them, Catholic and let's just clump, everybody else is Protestant. 32:21.000 --> 32:27.000 And I get some people get really offended if I say that we're in the Protestant group. 32:27.000 --> 32:33.000 But to the world we are, OK, regardless of how we feel about it, that's just how the world would label us. 32:33.000 --> 32:36.000 So for sake of argument, I'm just putting us in that category. 32:36.000 --> 32:39.000 OK, some people get really, really mad about that. 32:39.000 --> 32:40.000 And you can just stay mad. 32:40.000 --> 32:41.000 All right. 32:41.000 --> 32:50.000 But just for sake of simplicity, it's kind of like Orthodox, kind of Catholic and kind of Protestant is three big buckets that we can kind of look at. 32:50.000 --> 32:54.000 When we look at these particular buckets, why where does this Orthodox come from? 32:54.000 --> 32:55.000 Where does the Catholic come from? 32:55.000 --> 32:58.000 And where does the Protestant come from in general? 32:58.000 --> 33:05.000 Well, according to Orthodox understanding, so we're just we're just basically thinking how how do they look at it? 33:05.000 --> 33:14.000 They believe that there's kind of like five legit starts of the church and they call it the Pentarchy or the Pentarchy. 33:14.000 --> 33:24.000 OK, and they basically say, you know, we had five apostles go out and basically plant churches in like five different regions at the time of the apostles. 33:24.000 --> 33:33.000 So the acts of the apostles, they basically have five going out and they'll say number they'll say like number one. 33:33.000 --> 33:38.000 Is Antioch, OK? 33:38.000 --> 33:42.000 Which I mean, yeah, I mean, the church at Antioch is a legit church. 33:42.000 --> 33:43.000 It's in the Book of Acts. 33:43.000 --> 33:46.000 It's kind of one of the first places where they're called Christians. 33:46.000 --> 33:49.000 So, yeah, they're just kind of saying like this is kind of one of the first starts. 33:49.000 --> 33:59.000 Obviously, another one would be Jerusalem itself, where we have the apostles mostly held up. 33:59.000 --> 34:11.000 They also want to say that there's another origin, essentially, would you be Alexandria? 34:11.000 --> 34:15.000 And they say this is from Mark, the evangelist, St. Mark, the evangelist. 34:15.000 --> 34:17.000 I don't really know much about that. 34:17.000 --> 34:26.000 The Bible doesn't really mention much about any of the area of Africa or Egypt that much in the Book of Acts. 34:26.000 --> 34:30.000 It's very limited information that we have about that kind of the part of the world. 34:30.000 --> 34:31.000 But obviously, the gospel spread everywhere. 34:31.000 --> 34:38.000 So, you know, we understand that just because the Bible didn't record everything that happened, you know, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. 34:38.000 --> 34:52.000 OK, so Alexandria is another place that they say then they say Constantinople is number four. 34:52.000 --> 34:57.000 And then number five would be, of course, Rome. 34:57.000 --> 34:58.000 All right. 34:58.000 --> 35:01.000 And I'm not saying I'm just putting these in a number list. 35:01.000 --> 35:04.000 It's not the numbers are irrelevant to our discussion. 35:04.000 --> 35:12.000 We're just saying they have these five and they say these are the five origins where virtually all of the orthodox churches are coming from. 35:12.000 --> 35:17.000 And the Catholics would basically, for the most part, agree with this type of a timeline. 35:17.000 --> 35:30.000 OK, now, essentially what they're they're saying is he kind of had like, oh, we have these five major centers in the time first century where churches are being spawned out of. 35:30.000 --> 35:34.000 And that's where we get this beginning of church history. 35:34.000 --> 35:37.000 OK, obviously, they're going to say it starts with Jesus. 35:37.000 --> 35:41.000 They're going to say it goes into Peter and then it goes through Peter and Paul. 35:41.000 --> 35:47.000 And they basically give attribution to these different ones as far as Constantinople. 35:47.000 --> 35:51.000 They attribute to St. Andrew, the apostle Antioch. 35:51.000 --> 35:54.000 They give to Peter and Paul. 35:54.000 --> 35:58.000 They give Alexandria to St. Mark, Jerusalem. 35:58.000 --> 36:00.000 They give the James and then Rome. 36:00.000 --> 36:02.000 They give back to Peter and Paul as well. 36:02.000 --> 36:06.000 OK, so that's just kind of what they this is just this is just a history lesson. 36:06.000 --> 36:09.000 You want to understand what the orthodox and the Catholic basically believes. 36:09.000 --> 36:15.000 They say, hey, these five major centers, churches are coming out of again from a biblical perspective. 36:15.000 --> 36:19.000 We can't really argue with the fact that these things happen, right? 36:19.000 --> 36:21.000 The apostles went out. They started churches. 36:21.000 --> 36:24.000 We see churches and virtually all these areas. 36:24.000 --> 36:28.000 Again, there's not really any information about Alexandria, but I'm not even going to quibble and say that that didn't happen. 36:28.000 --> 36:30.000 I'm sure it did. OK, so churches did form. 36:30.000 --> 36:35.000 But, you know, they're also leaving out lots of churches that did form in the Book of Acts. 36:35.000 --> 36:36.000 I mean, there's all kinds of church. 36:36.000 --> 36:42.000 I mean, how about just the churches that are named in the Bible literally with an epistle like the church at Corinth? 36:42.000 --> 36:47.000 Isn't that I mean, isn't Corinth a pretty major church in the Bible? 36:47.000 --> 36:54.000 I mean, you got two epistles written to it and there's two of the more lengthy epistles that are written to churches specifically. 36:54.000 --> 36:58.000 You've got Galatia. You've got the church at Ephesus. 36:58.000 --> 37:03.000 You've got all kinds of different churches being mentioned in the Bible explicitly. 37:03.000 --> 37:06.000 Additionally, you've got the seven churches, which are in Asia. 37:06.000 --> 37:09.000 And again, I understand that some of this has some crossover and whatever. 37:09.000 --> 37:14.000 But in general, they're not necessarily naming every church that happened in the New Testament. 37:14.000 --> 37:18.000 So, again, it's already kind of being cherry picked if you kind of ask me. 37:18.000 --> 37:21.000 But regardless, let's say, hey, this is true, right? 37:21.000 --> 37:23.000 Churches are formed. 37:23.000 --> 37:32.000 Now, again, from a Catholic perspective, what they believe is that Rome here had Peter as a bishop at one point. 37:32.000 --> 37:34.000 Peter was literally their bishop. He was in Rome. 37:34.000 --> 37:36.000 He's leading the church in Rome. 37:36.000 --> 37:39.000 And then he ordained an elder. 37:39.000 --> 37:41.000 Peter dies. 37:41.000 --> 37:48.000 OK, eventually that elder ordains an elder and that guy ordains an elder and that guy ordains an elder. 37:48.000 --> 37:56.000 And they believe they have an unbroken chain from Peter specifically all the way to their current pope today. 37:56.000 --> 37:59.000 So that is what the Catholic Church teaches. 37:59.000 --> 38:03.000 OK, I'm going to say maybe that's true. 38:03.000 --> 38:05.000 I don't really you know, it doesn't really matter to me. 38:05.000 --> 38:09.000 It's like meaningless to me whether or not that is true to them. 38:09.000 --> 38:17.000 It is everything, every single thing that matters is hinged on this point. 38:17.000 --> 38:20.000 Everything about the Catholic Church, everything about the Orthodox as well. 38:20.000 --> 38:21.000 Now, here's the thing. 38:21.000 --> 38:26.000 The Orthodox is going to is kind of more like concerned with, hey, we're coming from these five streams. 38:26.000 --> 38:28.000 The Catholics kind of just like hone in on Rome. 38:28.000 --> 38:29.000 All right. 38:29.000 --> 38:34.000 And they really use some of the language given in the New Testament to Peter specifically. 38:34.000 --> 38:42.000 He's like, you know, upon this rock while I build my church, they kind of try to make it seem like Peter is the top of the food chain. 38:42.000 --> 38:43.000 And Peter was the first pope. 38:43.000 --> 38:44.000 Who's heard this? 38:44.000 --> 38:45.000 Peter's the first pope. 38:45.000 --> 38:46.000 That's what they mean. 38:46.000 --> 38:54.000 They mean that Peter is the head bishop of all the bishops and he's the most important guy and that Rome ruled the world then. 38:54.000 --> 38:59.000 And it's always ruled the world and that all the churches have to, quote, submit to Rome. 38:59.000 --> 39:03.000 And if you if you run into a Catholic, they'll be like, submit to Rome. 39:03.000 --> 39:06.000 OK, you argue with the Catholics, submit to Rome. 39:06.000 --> 39:07.000 Everything's about just submitting to Rome. 39:07.000 --> 39:08.000 Why? 39:08.000 --> 39:12.000 Because they just think Peter is their their bishop, their pope. 39:12.000 --> 39:19.000 And they have this perfect unbroken chain of what they'd call apostolic succession. 39:19.000 --> 39:21.000 Apostolic succession. 39:21.000 --> 39:23.000 You'll hear this just thrown out all the time. 39:23.000 --> 39:25.000 What is the apostolic is talking about? 39:25.000 --> 39:31.000 The Apostles succession is talking about their genealogy of bishops. 39:31.000 --> 39:38.000 They're essentially just pedigree, their lineage, their supposed unbroken chain of bishops. 39:38.000 --> 39:50.000 For church history perspective, though, the Catholics and the Orthodox kind of have to point to the exact same church history for the first thousand years. 39:50.000 --> 40:01.000 OK, and they would say, oh, we had seven ecumenical councils throughout time and both Orthodox and Catholic would say that is their their church history. 40:01.000 --> 40:11.000 OK, so they say they have the first ecumenical council, Nicaea one and three hundred and twenty five A.D. 40:11.000 --> 40:17.000 So, again, their perspective of church history is you have all these churches in the first century. 40:17.000 --> 40:22.000 They eventually start receiving severe persecution from Rome. 40:22.000 --> 40:23.000 These things are just facts. 40:23.000 --> 40:26.000 Rome does severely persecute the church. 40:26.000 --> 40:31.000 And, of course, they're killing Christians and slaughtering Christians for hundreds of years. 40:31.000 --> 40:34.000 Around this time, it starts to change. 40:34.000 --> 40:42.000 And, of course, you have the famous vision where the emperor is seeing Christianity and he, you know, 40:43.000 --> 40:47.000 Constantine is basically making Christianity legal. 40:47.000 --> 40:49.000 And then all of a sudden things start to change. 40:49.000 --> 41:00.000 So when they say ecumenical, what they mean is they took leaders from churches all over Europe and that part of the world and parts of Asia Minor and stuff. 41:00.000 --> 41:04.000 And they all gather together and they all made a little creed here. 41:04.000 --> 41:07.000 And that's what happened in three hundred and twenty five. 41:07.000 --> 41:10.000 Basically, they're trying to figure out what their core beliefs are. 41:10.000 --> 41:12.000 Now they have like seven versions of this. 41:12.000 --> 41:18.000 OK, so they had this one council of Nicea and three hundred and twenty five, then Constantinople. 41:21.000 --> 41:23.000 Three hundred and eighty one. 41:24.000 --> 41:26.000 Then they had one in Ephesus. 41:29.000 --> 41:31.000 And four hundred and thirty one. 41:31.000 --> 41:32.000 Then Caledon. 41:36.000 --> 41:38.000 And four fifty one. 41:40.000 --> 41:42.000 I don't even want to write this whole thing. 41:42.000 --> 41:44.000 Constantinople, two. 41:44.000 --> 41:45.000 All right. 41:45.000 --> 41:47.000 It's in five fifty three. 41:48.000 --> 41:52.000 And then Constantinople, three. 41:52.000 --> 41:55.000 Six hundred and eighty six eighty one. 41:55.000 --> 42:00.000 And then Nicea again. 42:00.000 --> 42:02.000 And I'm probably misspelling this. 42:02.000 --> 42:03.000 There we go. 42:03.000 --> 42:04.000 All right. 42:04.000 --> 42:06.000 Two and seven eighty seven. 42:06.000 --> 42:07.000 All right. 42:08.000 --> 42:11.000 I'm just trying to give you just a baseline understanding. 42:11.000 --> 42:14.000 This isn't that important, but it just kind of helps us understand. 42:14.000 --> 42:21.000 They say they have these seven ecumenical councils and they basically establish all these little creeds and updates to their creeds and stuff like that. 42:21.000 --> 42:25.000 So when people are talking about creeds and stuff, this is what they're talking about. 42:25.000 --> 42:26.000 OK. 42:26.000 --> 42:30.000 Now, just just for a pause and break in the history, just talk about this for a second. 42:30.000 --> 42:36.000 What if we just gather the like seven most popular preachers in the world today and we ask them to come up with a set of creeds? 42:36.000 --> 42:39.000 Do you think I would be invited? 42:39.000 --> 42:42.000 Do you think we would even agree with every single thing that they said? 42:42.000 --> 42:58.000 But at the same time, you know, if you were to go online and you were to look at just some of the largest non-denom churches in America or the world and you were to look at their doctrinal statement, how many of us would even disagree with their doctrinal statement? 42:58.000 --> 43:05.000 You'd actually be surprised that probably almost none of us would even disagree with it because it probably has to do with the fact that we're not even talking about the doctrine of the church. 43:05.000 --> 43:12.000 I mean, I'm not even going to disagree with it because it probably has about like five points and it's like point one, the Bible's the word of God. 43:12.000 --> 43:17.000 Point two, God is made of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. 43:17.000 --> 43:20.000 Point three, salvation is by faith. 43:20.000 --> 43:23.000 Point four, Jesus is coming back. 43:23.000 --> 43:26.000 Point five, the local church, you know, baptizes. 43:26.000 --> 43:29.000 I mean, if you look at most non-denom, it's like basically that. 43:29.000 --> 43:30.000 Why? 43:30.000 --> 43:36.000 They aim to just be non-denom and get as many people to agree with them and as many people to like them. 43:36.000 --> 43:43.000 So in many cases, you know, when you look at some of these creeds, they're kind of, in my opinion, written a similar way where it's just kind of aimed to just please the masses. 43:43.000 --> 43:48.000 And for the most part, we don't even really disagree with much of what it's saying, but it doesn't really matter. 43:48.000 --> 43:54.000 It doesn't necessarily reflect what people actually believe or all the different variations of beliefs that exist. 43:54.000 --> 44:02.000 It was just basically like, hey, let's all just try to, you know, get together and try to be as non-denom and ecumenical as possible. 44:02.000 --> 44:04.000 And again, what is the non-denom goal? 44:04.000 --> 44:08.000 It's to be ecumenical, is to gather as many loosely labeled Christians together. 44:08.000 --> 44:16.000 It doesn't matter if you're really Church of Christ underneath the hood or Methodist or Catholic or Mormon or not even a Christian at all. 44:16.000 --> 44:17.000 Non-denom. 44:17.000 --> 44:23.000 OK, and look, I've been part of non-denom churches where it is everything you could think of. 44:23.000 --> 44:27.000 I went and visited Gateway one time. 44:27.000 --> 44:29.000 So I was trying to get secret footage for a soul-winding documentary. 44:29.000 --> 44:34.000 And I was just asking some of the people there, like, while after the service, like what they believed. 44:34.000 --> 44:36.000 And this one guy's like, yeah, I go to the university here. 44:36.000 --> 44:43.000 I go to King's University because they bought a Bible college and imported it over here so they give themselves doctorates. 44:43.000 --> 44:46.000 But I'm talking to the guy and he's like, yeah, I'm an atheist. 44:46.000 --> 44:52.000 And I'm like, so you go to this church and you go to their Bible college and you're just an admitted atheist. 44:52.000 --> 44:56.000 Like in two minutes of talking with you, you're just telling me you're an atheist. 44:56.000 --> 44:58.000 Like that's what you get at the non-denom. 44:58.000 --> 45:00.000 OK, you get anything and everything. 45:00.000 --> 45:08.000 It wouldn't even surprise me if people in these councils, some of them were atheists, some of them had extremely weird beliefs. 45:08.000 --> 45:13.000 And look, when you look at our, quote, church fathers, which I would never use that term, except for in a pejorative sense, 45:14.000 --> 45:30.000 many of these people have weird, strange beliefs, super heretics, super heresy, crazy, weird, bizarre things you wouldn't even want to mention, OK, associated with many of the people in these groups. 45:30.000 --> 45:38.000 So, you know, I don't really care about this, but the Catholics and the Orthodox, this is everything to them. 45:38.000 --> 45:40.000 This is literally everything to them. 45:40.000 --> 45:46.000 And both of them say we have this stream and it turned into this. 45:46.000 --> 45:53.000 But by 1054 AD, there was a great schism. 45:53.000 --> 45:57.000 OK, again, not that important to us because we don't really remember it. 45:57.000 --> 46:03.000 Don't really care. But essentially, the Orthodox and the Catholic finally split in 1054 AD. 46:03.000 --> 46:11.000 The Bishop of Rome has come up with some new doctrines, things like immaculate conception. 46:11.000 --> 46:16.000 Come up with new doctrines like purgatory, things that have never been taught that are weird. 46:16.000 --> 46:27.000 And so as a result, the Orthodox, the Greek Orthodox and the Orthodox, the Eastern Orthodox, they're basically like, no, like you can't just come up with new stuff. 46:27.000 --> 46:29.000 Tradition. OK. 46:29.000 --> 46:34.000 And and they're like, hey, we're from Peter, bro. 46:34.000 --> 46:37.000 You got to just submit to Rome. You got to do whatever we say. 46:37.000 --> 46:43.000 And they're just like, no. And then, of course, there's a huge geographic divide between these two churches. 46:43.000 --> 46:49.000 And there's a language divide. The Western side is using the Latin. Rome's using the Latin. 46:49.000 --> 46:52.000 We have the Eastern using the Greek. 46:52.000 --> 46:56.000 And so it's just kind of a natural divide, a natural split. 46:56.000 --> 47:03.000 So the pope excommunicates the bishop of the Orthodox and then the Orthodox excommunicates the pope. 47:03.000 --> 47:06.000 OK, so they both kick each other out. All right. 47:06.000 --> 47:12.000 And it was a big Facebook post and everybody had to pick a side or whatever. 47:12.000 --> 47:15.000 But that's that's basically where they finally split. 47:15.000 --> 47:21.000 So if you ask Orthodox or you ask Catholic anything, they'll all point to these things as being their source. 47:21.000 --> 47:23.000 They'll be like, this is our council. 47:23.000 --> 47:27.000 You know, this is our guy. This is our father. This is our history. This is our lineage. 47:27.000 --> 47:29.000 They both go all the way back. 47:29.000 --> 47:36.000 After this point, they kind of start to have different histories, different beliefs and some different stuff going on. 47:36.000 --> 47:39.000 OK, but I just wanted to give you that kind of idea. 47:39.000 --> 47:45.000 But all of this still violates Colossians, chapter two, look at verse number eight. 47:45.000 --> 47:56.000 The Bible says, beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ. 47:56.000 --> 48:07.000 So both of these people, when you look through the church history and you look at all the different teachings and where things are coming from, they have a huge Greek philosophy influence. 48:07.000 --> 48:19.000 They are being influenced by Aristotle, by Plato, by Socrates, and they've kind of infused Greek philosophy and Greek wisdom with the Bible. 48:19.000 --> 48:23.000 And many of their doctrines are coming from those belief systems. 48:23.000 --> 48:35.000 OK, and so from the very origin of wherever you're going to put the Catholic Church, you want to put it here or the Orthodox or whatever, at whatever point they've had heavy influence of philosophy. 48:35.000 --> 48:37.000 Some people would say the Catholic Church started here. 48:37.000 --> 48:38.000 But here's the thing. 48:38.000 --> 48:54.000 If Paul is warning about churches being corrupted by Greek philosophy in the first century, that tends to believe that there could have been churches at that time that were influenced by Greek philosophy and were already bad and already going bad. 48:54.000 --> 49:05.000 So you could even argue maybe the Catholic Church really does go all the way back to the time of the Apostles in the sense that there was bad churches being corrupted by Greek philosophy and Greek wisdom all the way back then. 49:05.000 --> 49:10.000 And then there would be if he's warning about it, I don't think he's giving an idle warning here. 49:10.000 --> 49:12.000 I don't think that he's giving some subtle warning. 49:12.000 --> 49:21.000 And in fact, when do you think people were more impacted by Greek wisdom and 325 A.D. or at the at the first century? 49:21.000 --> 49:26.000 Way more the first century because the entire world is basically just heavily Greek influence. 49:26.000 --> 49:28.000 The church turned the world upside down. 49:28.000 --> 49:38.000 There was way more Greek philosophy and Greek wisdom that was being spread in the first century than there would have been at 325 A.D. 49:38.000 --> 49:46.000 So, of course, that admonition is probably even more applicable at that time than it would have been in a future sense. 49:46.000 --> 49:56.000 And so obviously the Greek philosophy and the Greek wisdom really spoiled a lot of churches and it caused a lot of bad lines of churches to spread. 49:56.000 --> 50:00.000 Once you get to 1 Peter, Chapter one, go to 1 Peter, Chapter one. 50:00.000 --> 50:03.000 Notice that the Bible uses the word tradition often and it's not positive. 50:03.000 --> 50:12.000 Now, it's not true that traditions always negative in the Bible, but it's like, I don't know, around 14 mentions and about 11 of them are bad. 50:13.000 --> 50:16.000 So, you know, you should take that for what it's worth, right? 50:16.000 --> 50:21.000 If you got a word 14 times, 11 is really bad. 50:21.000 --> 50:26.000 And then a couple of times it's good means that we should be really careful with that word, right? 50:26.000 --> 50:32.000 We should want to make sure that when we use the word tradition that we're meaning it the way the Bible means it, because it could be really bad. 50:32.000 --> 50:35.000 Yeah. Did the apostles give some traditions to the churches? 50:35.000 --> 50:37.000 Yes. Is that good? 50:37.000 --> 50:40.000 Yes. Tradition can be good when it's good. 50:40.000 --> 50:42.000 But traditions also bad when it's bad. 50:42.000 --> 50:46.000 Tradition in and of itself is not inherently good or bad. 50:46.000 --> 50:48.000 It's contextually good or bad. 50:48.000 --> 50:51.000 And you say, well, how do I know if a tradition is good or bad? 50:51.000 --> 50:53.000 Whatever the Bible says. 50:53.000 --> 50:55.000 That's what Jesus taught. 50:55.000 --> 51:01.000 Jesus taught, hey, you just don't violate or reject God's word to keep a tradition. 51:01.000 --> 51:03.000 So this is what I would say. 51:03.000 --> 51:05.000 You have a tradition that matches the Bible. 51:05.000 --> 51:07.000 Great. 51:07.000 --> 51:11.000 You have a tradition that the Bible doesn't really talk about. 51:11.000 --> 51:13.000 Then I would just say it's neutral. 51:13.000 --> 51:15.000 Then you have a tradition that the Bible forbids. 51:15.000 --> 51:18.000 Well, it's wicked and you should abandon it immediately. 51:18.000 --> 51:25.000 OK, churches that keep traditions that violate the Bible are wrong and should be immediately changing and repenting. 51:25.000 --> 51:30.000 A church holding a tradition that the Bible is silent on, then I have no problem. 51:30.000 --> 51:31.000 They should keep it. 51:31.000 --> 51:33.000 You know, I have no problem with them keeping it. 51:33.000 --> 51:36.000 I also have no problem if they want to change or adapt it. 51:36.000 --> 51:40.000 A tradition that the Bible commands must be kept. 51:40.000 --> 51:44.000 OK, but at the end of the day, it's not really about the tradition, is it? 51:44.000 --> 51:46.000 It's just whatever the Bible says. 51:46.000 --> 51:48.000 If the Bible says it, we're going to keep it. 51:48.000 --> 51:51.000 If it doesn't, then, hey, we can adapt. 51:51.000 --> 51:52.000 We can change. 51:52.000 --> 51:55.000 And if it says you shouldn't, then you need to immediately change. 51:55.000 --> 51:57.000 First, Peter, chapter one, look, verse 18. 51:57.000 --> 52:02.000 For as much as you know that you were not redeemed with corruptible things as silver and gold from your vain conversation, 52:03.000 --> 52:08.000 Notice this received by tradition from your fathers in order for people to even come into the church in the New Testament. 52:11.000 --> 52:16.000 They had to leave tradition the first time, the first time they had to leave tradition. 52:16.000 --> 52:25.000 They had to leave the tradition of paganism, of Roman influence, of Greek influence, of whatever nonsense that they had been taught before, 52:25.000 --> 52:29.000 particularly even from Socrates or Plato, Aristotle. 52:29.000 --> 52:37.000 I mean, you look at the Apostle Paul going on Mars Hill, confronting them about all their idolatry, worshiping the unknown God. 52:37.000 --> 52:42.000 They are so superstitious, as he describes them, where they worshiped every God. 52:42.000 --> 52:47.000 And he's saying, hey, you need to turn from dumb idols unto the living God. 52:47.000 --> 52:49.000 You have the Samaritan woman. 52:49.000 --> 52:52.000 Jesus Christ is telling her, you know not what you worship. 52:52.000 --> 52:55.000 These people have a bad tradition, not doing it right. 52:55.000 --> 53:04.000 If you're going to worship God, you have to do it in spirit and in truth, meaning we have to do it with the right attitude, mindset, and we have to do it with what the Bible says. 53:04.000 --> 53:06.000 Otherwise, it doesn't matter. 53:06.000 --> 53:15.000 God does not care about rote, religious, you know, just pandering, just following some kind of a ritual, just showing up. 53:15.000 --> 53:22.000 Well, you showed up in a building and did, you know, a bunch of this and stood and nailed and ate a cracker and whatever. 53:22.000 --> 53:27.000 Do you think God up in heaven is just like, I just want to make sure that they eat a cracker, you know? 53:27.000 --> 53:32.000 Like little parrot, you know, just go to a wall and just go like this. 53:32.000 --> 53:35.000 Do you think God really cares about that? 53:35.000 --> 53:39.000 I mean, God, what does somebody standing at the wall praying? 53:39.000 --> 53:42.000 They're like, oh God, well they're not bobbling, you know. 53:42.000 --> 53:45.000 God's like, I just really want this, you know. 53:45.000 --> 53:48.000 They're just all little bobble heads or something? 53:48.000 --> 53:50.000 I mean, look, this is not the God of the Bible. 53:50.000 --> 53:54.000 The God of the Bible wants you to worship Him in spirit and in truth. 53:54.000 --> 53:58.000 Because if it's not true, then it's not genuine worship and it's meaningless. 53:58.000 --> 54:01.000 So again, we have a little bit of church history here. 54:01.000 --> 54:06.000 You know, if I was to argue with one of these people or if I was to talk to these people, I don't even care. 54:06.000 --> 54:10.000 I'll just say, hey, your church history, I'll accept it. 54:10.000 --> 54:12.000 I'll accept that it happened. 54:12.000 --> 54:13.000 But you know what I won't accept? 54:13.000 --> 54:15.000 That it's legit and true. 54:15.000 --> 54:20.000 Hey, it can happen just because these things happen does not mean that they're legitimate. 54:20.000 --> 54:23.000 Just like Islam happened. 54:23.000 --> 54:24.000 Does that make it legitimate? 54:24.000 --> 54:25.000 No. 54:25.000 --> 54:26.000 Mormonism happened. 54:26.000 --> 54:27.000 Hinduism happened. 54:27.000 --> 54:29.000 Hinduism goes before all this. 54:29.000 --> 54:30.000 It happened. 54:30.000 --> 54:31.000 I'll accept it. 54:31.000 --> 54:33.000 I'll accept that Hinduism is older than this. 54:33.000 --> 54:36.000 I'll accept that Hinduism has millions and billions of followers. 54:36.000 --> 54:39.000 I'll accept that Hinduism exists. 54:39.000 --> 54:40.000 But you know what I won't accept? 54:40.000 --> 54:42.000 The religion of Hinduism. 54:42.000 --> 54:44.000 Well, it traditionally hasn't changed. 54:44.000 --> 54:45.000 Okay, well, it's always been bad. 54:45.000 --> 54:48.000 It's always been satanic and it's always been wicked. 54:48.000 --> 54:49.000 Okay. 54:49.000 --> 54:51.000 Mormonism, always satanic and wicked. 54:51.000 --> 54:54.000 The religion of Islam, always satanic and wicked. 54:54.000 --> 54:59.000 And I'll say this, the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, in my opinion, has always been bad. 54:59.000 --> 55:01.000 It's always been corrupt. 55:01.000 --> 55:06.000 Now, I think it's reasonable to believe that the Catholic Church has evolved throughout the ages. 55:06.000 --> 55:08.000 There's been different seasons. 55:08.000 --> 55:11.000 Sometimes it's been more corrupt than others. 55:12.000 --> 55:21.000 You know, in the age of the Internet and travel, we don't often understand how difficult it would be to manage so many churches across so many geographies. 55:21.000 --> 55:31.000 So it's possible that there could have been Catholic churches throughout history that kind of went rogue, according to the Catholic doctrine, and was even teaching some good doctrines. 55:31.000 --> 55:35.000 Or there was some leaders in the Catholic Church that went rogue and taught some good things. 55:36.000 --> 55:41.000 And if you kind of understand the precursor to the Protestant Reformation, that's a lot of times what happened. 55:41.000 --> 55:45.000 People like, you know, the Wycliffe Bible, he was a Catholic priest. 55:45.000 --> 55:49.000 But then a lot of people got mad about his teachings when they kind of figured it out. 55:49.000 --> 55:54.000 They dug up his bones after he was dead and like thrown in the river or something. 55:54.000 --> 55:55.000 I can't remember. 55:55.000 --> 56:00.000 They basically tried to make him be like a heretic or excommunicate him after he died. 56:00.000 --> 56:01.000 And it's like, bro, it's too late. 56:01.000 --> 56:02.000 Okay. 56:02.000 --> 56:10.000 But a lot of people, you know, were outside the Catholic Church, were influenced by all kinds of different teachings that weren't necessarily Catholic. 56:10.000 --> 56:13.000 That's why the Catholic Church had to try and enforce a lot of the dogmas. 56:13.000 --> 56:14.000 You have the Holy Crusades. 56:14.000 --> 56:18.000 You have all you have all these different eras and different things that are happening. 56:18.000 --> 56:21.000 Catholic Church is constantly trying to ban people from owning a Bible. 56:21.000 --> 56:22.000 Why? 56:22.000 --> 56:26.000 Because when people start reading the Bible, they're like, oh, that's not this. 56:26.000 --> 56:28.000 None of this is in the Bible. 56:28.000 --> 56:29.000 It's not defensible. 56:29.000 --> 56:30.000 What's the difference? 56:30.000 --> 56:31.000 It's not defensible whatsoever. 56:31.000 --> 56:39.000 And so, of course, you don't think there could have been a Catholic priest somewhere in the world that actually started reading the Bible and was like, uh, this is bad. 56:39.000 --> 56:40.000 Like this is wrong. 56:40.000 --> 56:42.000 Maybe he got influenced by other people. 56:42.000 --> 56:46.000 Maybe some of these people in the Catholic Church obviously would have gotten saved. 56:46.000 --> 56:52.000 You know, if you lived in Europe and a lot of these times in history, that was your only choice. 56:52.000 --> 56:56.000 It was like, go to church, go to the Catholic Church or not. 56:56.000 --> 56:59.000 And again, today we have so many options. 56:59.000 --> 57:02.000 But I mean, how many saved people today are going to a bad church? 57:02.000 --> 57:05.000 There's a lot of saved people going to bad churches. 57:05.000 --> 57:09.000 OK, there's even people I've run into today that are saved and going to a Catholic Church. 57:09.000 --> 57:11.000 And you're just thinking like, what in the world? 57:11.000 --> 57:14.000 Why are you going there in today's world when you don't even have to? 57:14.000 --> 57:16.000 You know, you don't you're not forced to. 57:16.000 --> 57:17.000 But it's like, well, my wife drags me. 57:17.000 --> 57:18.000 So he's forced to. 57:18.000 --> 57:21.000 OK, don't let your wife drag you to the Catholic Church. 57:21.000 --> 57:23.000 OK, be man enough. 57:23.000 --> 57:30.000 But at the end of the day, when we talk about these particular issues, tradition doesn't really matter. 57:30.000 --> 57:34.000 Even if it was true, I'll grant you that maybe it was true, but it doesn't make it right. 57:34.000 --> 57:40.000 It doesn't make it legitimate, even if it is historical, even if it has this perfect succession. 57:40.000 --> 57:42.000 Did I have you turn somewhere? 57:42.000 --> 57:43.000 No, go to Ezekiel 48 if you would. 57:43.000 --> 57:47.000 OK, go to Ezekiel 48. 57:47.000 --> 57:49.000 There is different flavors of the Orthodox Church. 57:49.000 --> 57:55.000 OK, so even though they want to act like they're this unbroken chain, we are this church. 57:55.000 --> 57:56.000 We've never changed. 57:56.000 --> 57:57.000 We're the exact same since Peter. 57:57.000 --> 57:59.000 Not really true. 57:59.000 --> 58:00.000 And they have different flavors. 58:00.000 --> 58:02.000 There's a Greek Orthodox Church. 58:02.000 --> 58:04.000 There's a Russian Orthodox Church. 58:04.000 --> 58:11.000 Then there's Romanian, Serbian, Bulgarian, Georgian, Antiochian, Oriental or Coptic. 58:11.000 --> 58:13.000 OK, so there's all these different flavors. 58:13.000 --> 58:17.000 Notice that they're all kind of like geographic flavors, too, aren't they? 58:17.000 --> 58:18.000 It doesn't seem like it's a conviction. 58:18.000 --> 58:20.000 It's just a geographic flavor, right? 58:20.000 --> 58:23.000 And if you're at the Russian Orthodox Church, why? 58:23.000 --> 58:25.000 They're probably having the services in Russian. 58:25.000 --> 58:27.000 The Greeks are obviously having their services in Greek. 58:27.000 --> 58:32.000 A lot of them are having it in Greek, and they do hold to the Greek for the New Testament. 58:32.000 --> 58:38.000 And so if you want a New Testament manuscript, you know, they're going to be more reliable as far as leaning on the Greek. 58:38.000 --> 58:42.000 But they're so Greek that they also use the Greek for the Old Testament. 58:42.000 --> 58:45.000 So they use the Septuagint for the Old Testament. 58:46.000 --> 58:50.000 And so they're not necessarily using the same Bible as us in wholesale. 58:50.000 --> 58:55.000 They might like the Greek New Testament, but they're going to use the Greek Old Testament. 58:55.000 --> 58:58.000 Now, this is what many of your modern version Bibles are today. 58:58.000 --> 59:03.000 Many of your modern versions today, if you go in the Old Testament, there'll be a footnote. 59:03.000 --> 59:06.000 And then if you look at the bottom, it'll say Hebrew. 59:06.000 --> 59:14.000 Anytime it says Hebrew, what that really means is we inserted Greek here in the midst of all the Hebrew. 59:14.000 --> 59:18.000 Because it's like the majority of every Old Testament is Hebrew, period. 59:18.000 --> 59:23.000 It's just the majority of every English translation, English Bible, the majority is Hebrew. 59:23.000 --> 59:27.000 OK, but what they do is they just cut out a little bit. 59:27.000 --> 59:31.000 They do some plastic surgery, you know, Joyce Meyer style. 59:31.000 --> 59:36.000 And then they just insert a little Greek verse here or a Greek phrase here or a Greek word here. 59:36.000 --> 59:38.000 And then they'll just put down in the margin. 59:38.000 --> 59:41.000 Hebrew says this. 59:41.000 --> 59:45.000 It'll be like El Hanan, the son of Jehoragim, slew Goliath. 59:45.000 --> 59:49.000 And there'll be a footnote and it'll say like, well, in the Hebrew it says the brother of Goliath. 59:49.000 --> 59:52.000 Right. Yeah, because David slew Goliath, right? 59:52.000 --> 59:55.000 And it just does this all over the Old Testament. 59:55.000 --> 59:58.000 So again, that's kind of where the Greeks are at, though. 59:58.000 --> 01:00:02.000 They're going to adhere to every time the Greek has a variation. 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:03.000 They're using the Greek Septuagint. 01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.000 They follow that particular manuscript. 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:10.000 Now, let's think about this from a biblical perspective only for a moment. 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:18.000 Does it matter if you have a perfect unbroken chain of ordained leaders? 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.000 OK, does that matter? 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.000 Well, at the time of Christ, we had a group called the Sadducees. 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.000 OK, and they're really sad, you see, because they won't be resurrected. 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:29.000 All right. 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:34.000 They also were confused about marriage and all kinds of other stuff. 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.000 But they just they denied the resurrection. 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:42.000 They have weird beliefs, but they're coming from a legitimate source. 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:44.000 They're coming from Zadok. 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.000 Now look at Ezekiel 48 verse 11. 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.000 And it shall be for the priests that are sanctified of the sons of Zadok, 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:55.000 which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of Israel went astray as the Levites went astray. 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:59.000 So we have the Levitical priesthood after the order of Aaron. 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:06.000 This is a legitimate God ordained structure where you have Aaron ordaining his sons 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:11.000 and their sons ordaining their sons and their sons and their sons and their sons and their sons and their sons. 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:16.000 But the vast majority of this tree, this vast majority of this lineage is bad. 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.000 It's corrupt. 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:23.000 At the time of the Babylonian captivity, it's pretty much just all trash. 01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.000 But there's one line that stayed faithful. 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.000 It's Zadok. 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.000 So Zadok is faithful. 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:38.000 So when they come back to restore the nation of Israel or Jerusalem and specifically they're rebuilding Jerusalem, 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:44.000 they appoint the Zadok family to basically be the one to keep that Aaronic priesthood going. 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:48.000 And at that time, they're still good. 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:53.000 This is still, though, at least five hundred something years prior to the time of Christ. 01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:56.000 So prior to the time of Christ, Zadok is good. 01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.000 But let's fast forward five hundred years. 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:09.000 I have no reason to doubt or disbelieve that the Sadducees weren't the physical descendants of Zadok and the physical descendants of Aaron. 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:13.000 I believe in a priestly succession. 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:16.000 They had a perfect, Aaronic priesthood succession. 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:22.000 But here's the problem with the Sadducees, not their pedigree, their beliefs, their heretics. 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.000 They're not even saved. 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:31.000 It doesn't matter. Jesus never disputes with them whether or not they have the right tradition or pedigree or succession. 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.000 Go to Matthew 16, go to Matthew chapter 16. 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.000 Let's see what Jesus has to say about these particular people. 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:44.000 Matthew chapter 16, look at verse number 11. 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.000 Now, this is Jesus talking to his disciples. 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:51.000 Verse 11, How is it that you do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, 01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.000 that you should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:58.000 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:02.000 but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:07.000 So you can have a perfect, absolutely perfect succession of priests. 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:11.000 Priests, we get priests, we get priests, we get priests, we get priests, we get priests. 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:15.000 Perfect unbroken succession from Aaron, the God ordained minister. 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:19.000 It's the Aaronic priesthood all the way to the time of Christ. 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.000 And then what is Jesus saying? 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.000 Don't believe what these guys believe. 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.000 Don't adhere to their doctrines. 01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:30.000 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees because their doctrine is corrupt. 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.000 And they're teaching what? 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:38.000 They're teaching doctrines from the commandments of men and they're rejecting the word of God. 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:43.000 So if in the Bible the priestly succession failed, if the tradition failed, 01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.000 why would I then use that argument for the church in the New Testament? 01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:48.000 Let's go to another example. 01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.000 Go to John chapter number eight. 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:51.000 Go to John chapter number eight. 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.000 The Bible tells us specifically about the Sadducees that they deny the resurrection. 01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.000 That means they're not saved, folks. 01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:58.000 Read 1 Corinthians 15. 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.000 You deny the resurrection and it wasn't Jesus' resurrection. 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.000 They deny resurrection in general. 01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:10.000 I mean, these people, it's hard to even find a Christian group today that would have such a weird doctrine. 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.000 That is a very, very bad doctrine. 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.000 This is kind of like the people that went to Bible college today, 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:21.000 one of these liberal Bible colleges where they just don't even believe the Bible at all. 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.000 The miracles of the Bible aren't even real. 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000 Everything's an allegory. 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.000 Adam and Eve is an allegory. 01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.000 And look, you have people like that today. 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.000 People like Martin Luther King Jr. 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:36.000 Other individuals that got up and denied the resurrection, said everything was an allegory. 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:40.000 Look, the Southern Baptist Convention in the 1960s got so bad 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.000 that many of their leaders actually taught this kind of stuff. 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:48.000 The Southern Baptist Convention had leaders getting up and saying Genesis is an allegory. 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.000 It is not literal history. 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:58.000 And of course, there was a lot of pressure on them to acquiesce to Charles Darwin evolutionary teaching. 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:04.000 You know, you had the famous Scopes Monkey trial court case that overturned, you know, 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:09.000 a lot of legislation making it where you were supposed to be teaching like Christian history in schools 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.000 to where now they can start teaching evolution in schools. 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.000 And that evolution spread, became more popular. 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.000 So by the time of the 60s, there was all these people saying like, 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.000 oh, well, if you believe 6,000 years, if you believe Genesis' little history, 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:26.000 you're just denying science. You're a science denier. 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.000 That sounds familiar, huh? 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.000 People that think men can become women, you're now a science denier. 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:35.000 Okay. It's like, if you don't believe that men can become women, you're a science denier. 01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:38.000 Look, no, the science teaches that if you're a man, you're a man. 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:44.000 In the same way that the science does not teach that we are really, really 4.5 billion years old 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.000 or something like that, or that nothing exploded and created everything. 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.000 This is not science, folks. 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.000 Science teaches that, you know, kinds of animals beget other kinds of animals, 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.000 and we've never seen anything else. 01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:02.000 The Bible, if you look at it, is a historically accurate document. 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:03.000 It is truth. 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:07.000 If you study any kind of things through genetics, you'll realize, hey, we're all related. 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:12.000 You study genetics and human population, you'll realize that it can only be a few thousand years old 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:16.000 because the human population, just the scale of the human population, 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:20.000 only leads it to be possible to have been a few thousand years old. 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.000 Everything that they say and do and teach is just false. 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:30.000 They find dinosaur remains and they test it and it's like, oh, well, this doesn't seem to match our ages. 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:35.000 And they're constantly finding polystrate fossils, you know, that confirm the flood. 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.000 Everything through science is always confirming the Bible, folks. 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:40.000 Okay? 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.000 It is not confirming evolution. 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.000 But at the 60s, because of the pressure of evolution, you had a lot of guys getting up 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:50.000 and just trying to try to fit the Bible with evolution, so there's like gap theory. 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:53.000 So it's like, oh, well, it's all just a metaphor. 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:56.000 And Adam and Eve were the first, you know, apes. 01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:59.000 There are people that literally teach this kind of nonsense. 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:04.000 They'll say, oh, they're kind of like the first ape-like creatures in a long history 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.000 of evolutionary processes. 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:10.000 I've been in a Southern Baptist Church where we were in a Sunday school class 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:15.000 and they let a woman get up and literally just teach that if you believe in young earth, 01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:20.000 you're an idiot, you're stupid, getting up and saying that evolution is true, 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.000 saying that the Big Bang was true, and then just be like, God did it. 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:31.000 And just acting like anybody who's had anything else to say was just an idiot, 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.000 was just a fool, that there's these Baptist preachers getting up 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:41.000 and just browbeating people in the submission and ignoring science and ignoring facts. 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.000 And I'm like, you're ignoring verses in the Bible saying women shouldn't get up 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.000 and teach the Bible, OK? 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:52.000 Yeah, you little short dyke haircut getting up here and lecturing us on science and the Bible. 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.000 But I'm telling you, this stuff is real. 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:58.000 And, you know, what we really should be testing ourselves on is what the Bible says, 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:04.000 not tradition, not popular science of this world, not pop culture. 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:07.000 It's the Bible is our guiding light here, folks. 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:14.000 And what's funny to me is, admittedly, a lot of Catholics and a lot of Orthodox, 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:19.000 they've kind of turned and they've kind of realized like, hey, if we're going to be historical, 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:24.000 we're going to be traditional, we kind of have to be anti-Jew, OK? 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:30.000 Because if you start reading, you know, any of these church fathers, like, I don't know, Martin Luther, 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.000 if you read, let's say the Catholics don't really like him. 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.000 But OK, let's go John Christostome or you go some of these other guys. 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.000 They're not pro-Jew. Europe was not pro-Jew. 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:44.000 They were kicked out of all these different countries constantly. 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:48.000 You know, some people say 47, some people say 109. 01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:49.000 You know, there's all kinds of different numbers. 01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.000 Maybe it's six million. I don't know. 01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:52.000 You know, it just keeps escalating. 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:53.000 Maybe they're kicked out of six million countries. 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:58.000 But either way, what I do know is that their arguments, though, against the Jews, 01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:01.000 it's funny because they make the same argument. 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:06.000 Look at John chapter number eight and look at verse 37. 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.000 I know that your Abraham seed, but you seek to kill me because my word has no place in you. 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:16.000 Jesus says of the Jews, they are literally Abraham's descendants. 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.000 They have perfect succession. 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:19.000 But here's the thing. 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.000 They're not God's people. 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.000 They're not the children of God. 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:23.000 Let's keep reading. 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.000 He says in verse number 38, 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:31.000 I speak that which I've seen with my father and you do that which you have seen with your father. 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.000 They answered and said, Abraham is our father. 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:38.000 Jesus said to them, if you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:42.000 But now you seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God. 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.000 This did not Abraham. 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.000 Ye do the deeds of your father, then said the Jews. 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.000 Then said they to him, we be not born of fornication. 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.000 We have one father, even God. 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:58.000 Jesus said unto them, if God were your father, you would love me, for I proceeded forth and came from God. 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000 Neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.000 Why do you not understand my speech? 01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.000 Even because he cannot hear my word. 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:08.000 Ye of your father, the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:13.000 He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:17.000 When he speak of the lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it. 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.000 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:25.000 That's what Jesus said to the literal physical descendants of Abraham. 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:29.000 He said, I know your Abraham seed. 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:32.000 I believe in your perfect succession. 01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.000 I believe in your genealogy. 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:39.000 You are legitimately the physical descendants of Abraham. 01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:40.000 But here's the problem. 01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.000 You're the children of the devil. 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:49.000 And look, did perfect succession actually have any legitimacy with Jesus Christ? 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.000 None whatsoever. 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.000 He said you could be literally Abraham's children and you're not Abraham's children. 01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:02.000 In the same way that you could be literally just the bishop from the bishop from the bishop from the bishop from the bishop from Peter. 01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.000 And guess what? 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:05.000 You're a child of the devil at the same time. 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:11.000 Because succession does not matter whatsoever from a physical carnal sense. 01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.000 If you are physically descended from someone that does not make you saved. 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:22.000 And if you are coming from some church history succession that does not legitimately prove anything whatsoever. 01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.000 It is meaningless. 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.000 The Bible just says avoid genealogies, doesn't it? 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.000 How do these people reconcile that? 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:30.000 Go to Revelation chapter two. 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.000 Go to Revelation chapter two. 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.000 Well, but you don't understand that. 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:34.000 So we're not yet. 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:37.000 We're not saying that we're physically descended from Peter. 01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:39.000 OK. 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:46.000 But at the time of Christ, you have churches that have apostolic succession. 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:47.000 I just think it's funny. 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:50.000 You know why the Jews think that they're God's chosen people? 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.000 Because of succession. 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.000 You know why the Catholics think they're God's chosen people? 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:56.000 Because of succession. 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.000 You know why the Orthodox think that they're God's chosen people? 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:00.000 Because of succession. 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.000 But guess what? 01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.000 They're all wrong because it's not about succession. 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.000 It's about faith in Jesus Christ. 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.000 That's what makes you a child of God. 01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.000 That's what actually makes you saved. 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:17.000 It's not about some kind of lineage or again, if you are Catholic, if you're Orthodox, you know what they'll do? 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.000 They will baptize their baby. 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:22.000 Who's seen this, heard this? 01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.000 How many of you were baptized as a baby? 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.000 I don't know. 01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:26.000 Some of you might have been. 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.000 OK. 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.000 Think about this. 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:33.000 How do you get you get to go to heaven just because your parents were Catholic? 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.000 How is that not any different than what the Jews are teaching? 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.000 They're teaching that they take their little baby and they're just sprinkling it. 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.000 And that's why it gets to go to heaven. 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:49.000 Not not because of faith in Jesus Christ or if you believe in the age of accountability, which is fine. 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:54.000 But again, the age of accountability would apply to everybody, whether you're christened or not, whether you're baptized or not. 01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:02.000 So, again, their doctrine, their theology is a doctrine of theology that is racist and is based on their succession ism. 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:10.000 And they think that they are better than other people because of who their parents were, because of their pedigree, because of their lineage. 01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:12.000 That is the same belief as the Jews. 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.000 And look, it's the same as the Black Hebrew Israelites. 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.000 It's the same as all of these cult groups. 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.000 Why? 01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:24.000 Because a cult group has to try and make you special by race, not by grace. 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:29.000 Cult groups try to teach you that they're special because of race and not by grace. 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:30.000 And you know what? 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.000 It's the same argument that the Jews make. 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:33.000 And it's so funny. 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:34.000 They're against the Jews. 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.000 And then they make and borrow the same arguments from the Jews. 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.000 Oh, it's by succession. 01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.000 No, it's by what God's word teaches. 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:43.000 Now, again, let's just grant them. 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:47.000 I don't even I think it's plausible that they're just lying or they're mistaken on history. 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:51.000 Let's just assume that they were right, that they had a perfect apostolic succession. 01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:57.000 Well, you have churches in the New Testament that were for sure started by apostles, for sure. 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:03.000 And yet they are in danger of being wicked and cast aside by Jesus Christ. 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.000 Look at Revelation chapter two, verse five. 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:09.000 Remember, therefore, from whence thou art fallen and repent and do the first works, 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:13.000 or else I will come unto thee quickly and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:14.000 except thou repent. 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:20.000 So you have a church in Asia, the church of Ephesus, is being rebuked and warned 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.000 that if they don't change, they're going to lose their candlestick 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:24.000 and they will no longer be a legitimate church. 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:27.000 They will no longer have the blessing of God in their church. 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.000 So, oh, but they have apostolic succession. 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000 Yeah, but they can go back. 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000 Any church can go bad at any point in time. 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:39.000 Having apostolic succession is meaningless. 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:44.000 And look, just because Jesus Christ removes the candlestick from this church 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:49.000 does not mean and I do not believe means that they cease to exist physically. 01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:53.000 They could still be there and then, oh, they ordained somebody, still bad, 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:57.000 ordained another person, still bad, ordained another person, still bad, 01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:01.000 still bad, still bad, still bad, and then you have a pope today. 01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:06.000 It does not prove whatsoever that tradition is going to stay true 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:09.000 or that churches will stay true whatsoever. 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.000 They go bad constantly in the Bible. 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:11.000 Go backwards just a hair. 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:16.000 Third John chapter one, third John chapter one, look at verse number nine. 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:21.000 Here's another church that is apostolic succession. 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.000 Verse nine, I wrote in the church, but deatres who love it have the 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.000 permanence among them receive it is not. 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:31.000 Here's another legitimately formed church and it gets hijacked by a bad person. 01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:35.000 The Apostle Paul warns in the book of Acts, chapter number 20, 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.000 that grievous wolves shall enter in, not sparing the flaw. 01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:43.000 The Apostle Paul is warning that churches can go bad and that they will 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:44.000 be bad leaders. 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000 He says even of your own cells, he says, hey, even some of you guys that 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000 we've ordained, even some of you guys that are quote legit are going to be 01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:53.000 bad and turn bad. 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:58.000 I don't know, like Judas himself, legitimately ordained by Jesus Christ. 01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:02.000 He is a literal apostle or not a apostle, he's a disciple at least. 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:05.000 He's a disciple in the sense that he was legitimately ordained. 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.000 He's part of the 12 bad. 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000 Just because you have a legitimate ordained person, 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.000 bad, just because you have a legitimate ordination does not mean you are 01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:15.000 legitimate. 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.000 You could be pastor who? 01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:18.000 You know what I mean? 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:22.000 Just because you were legitimately ordained doesn't mean you're legitimate. 01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.000 Okay. 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:27.000 And in some cases, it's good as a congregation to not only consider the 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:31.000 legitimacy of someone's ordination, but consider God's confirmation of that 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:32.000 ordination. 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:37.000 Is God confirming this person as legitimate? 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:42.000 Is God evidencing this person's legitimacy through what? 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.000 And of course, we always point to fruit because that's what Jesus points to. 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:48.000 Jesus says, you shall know them by their roots. 01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.000 Okay. 01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:52.000 And if we were to look at the Catholic and the Orthodox, the fruit argument, 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.000 it proves everything. 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:55.000 It proves everything. 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:59.000 I'm just trying to give you a quick journey so you get an idea of where these 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:00.000 people are coming from. 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:04.000 Go to Galatians, we're going to go there. 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:09.000 So I took a long time to explain this point, but it's everything that they 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:10.000 hinge everything on. 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:11.000 Everything. 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.000 The Orthodox and the Catholic say we have tradition. 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.000 We have an unbroken apostolic succession. 01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:18.000 Okay. 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:19.000 And that is why we're legit. 01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.000 That's the only reason they're legit. 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:22.000 That's what they point to. 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:23.000 Everything they point to. 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:24.000 And you want to argue them? 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.000 It's like, look at our pedigree. 01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:26.000 Look at the names. 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:27.000 We have a list of names. 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.000 Here's a sheet with a list of names where so-and-so begat so-and-so, and so-and-so 01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:35.000 begat so-and-so begat so-and-so begat so-and-so. 01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:37.000 Where's your list? 01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:40.000 And I'm like, I don't know. 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:45.000 And I don't have an ancestry.com that I can go and figure this out. 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:48.000 It's like I was ordained by Pastor Anderson. 01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.000 He was ordained by Pastor Stephen Nichols. 01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:52.000 And then I asked him. 01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.000 I said, who ordained Pastor Stephen Nichols? 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:57.000 And that's where our tree gets fuzzy. 01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:03.840 Because according to Pastor Anderson, he said that his pastor was sent out by a guy. 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:08.720 He preached some really hard sermons, and then the guy refused to do a formal ordination 01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:10.460 for him. 01:18:10.460 --> 01:18:14.160 It's funny because then he did the exact same thing to Pastor Anderson. 01:18:14.160 --> 01:18:19.740 But according to Pastor Anderson, he said then he went to Jack Treber or something and 01:18:19.740 --> 01:18:22.780 got an extra ordination or something like that. 01:18:22.780 --> 01:18:27.300 And he said that he thinks that he was actually ordained maybe by his own dad at one point 01:18:27.300 --> 01:18:28.300 potentially. 01:18:28.300 --> 01:18:30.980 So I don't even know where to point. 01:18:30.980 --> 01:18:32.700 And I don't know where to point before that. 01:18:32.700 --> 01:18:35.100 I don't know where to go. 01:18:35.100 --> 01:18:37.820 But you know, I don't care. 01:18:37.820 --> 01:18:43.940 It's meaningless to me what that family tree actually looks like or how far it goes back. 01:18:43.940 --> 01:18:50.020 And look, there's Baptists today that have the exact same belief that the Catholic and 01:18:50.020 --> 01:18:55.740 the Orthodox do called Baptist brightest or landmark ism. 01:18:55.740 --> 01:18:56.740 Who's heard of this? 01:18:56.740 --> 01:19:02.620 OK, they'll get up and they'll say we have an unbroken chain of bishops that go all the 01:19:02.620 --> 01:19:03.620 way back to Peter. 01:19:03.620 --> 01:19:05.260 And that's why we're legit. 01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:11.340 So much so there are some Baptist churches that say if you didn't get baptized by me 01:19:11.340 --> 01:19:16.980 and my church, it's not even a legit baptism because you have to be ordained. 01:19:16.980 --> 01:19:22.860 You have to be baptized by someone that's been ordained by Peter through this succession 01:19:22.860 --> 01:19:23.860 ism. 01:19:23.860 --> 01:19:24.900 But here's the thing. 01:19:24.900 --> 01:19:30.300 The Catholics and the Orthodox kept meticulous records and their churches really kind of 01:19:30.300 --> 01:19:32.280 have lasted through the centuries. 01:19:32.280 --> 01:19:36.580 And so if you were to try and argue like they kind of seem to have, you know, something 01:19:36.580 --> 01:19:39.340 to point to the Baptist don't have this. 01:19:39.340 --> 01:19:43.620 OK, folks, so when they try to do it, it's weird. 01:19:43.700 --> 01:19:48.340 It is a weird scatter plot through history where they're pointing to all kinds of strange 01:19:48.340 --> 01:19:49.340 groups. 01:19:49.340 --> 01:19:52.580 Oh, well, here's the Waldensians and here's the Abigensians. 01:19:52.580 --> 01:19:56.280 And here's all these weird people for this trail of blood. 01:19:56.280 --> 01:20:00.020 And it's just you start looking into some of these groups and it's like groups you would 01:20:00.020 --> 01:20:01.420 never want anything to do with. 01:20:01.420 --> 01:20:03.680 It's like infant baptism. 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:05.380 Their oneness heretics. 01:20:05.380 --> 01:20:09.420 It's like all of a sudden you're just like, that's who you want to point to. 01:20:09.420 --> 01:20:10.700 And this is what's funny to me. 01:20:10.700 --> 01:20:13.440 All to avoid pointing to the Protestant Reformation. 01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:15.940 They want to just basically say, well, we didn't come to the Protestant Reformation. 01:20:15.940 --> 01:20:18.820 We came from these oneness heretic cult leaders. 01:20:18.820 --> 01:20:21.100 And you're like, why is that even better? 01:20:21.100 --> 01:20:25.100 You know, like, why don't you just say the pedigree just doesn't matter? 01:20:25.100 --> 01:20:29.100 Why don't you just ignore and not really care about the pedigree? 01:20:29.100 --> 01:20:32.100 And they'll be like, oh, you came out of the Protestant Reformation. 01:20:32.100 --> 01:20:38.200 Yeah, well, I also came out of the non-denom church, but I'm not non-denom. 01:20:38.200 --> 01:20:42.380 Yeah, does it matter where people were at? 01:20:42.380 --> 01:20:48.320 If you lived in a country that Catholic Church is the only option and you're a quote Catholic, 01:20:48.320 --> 01:20:49.320 does that really matter? 01:20:49.320 --> 01:20:52.600 Does that label really matter if that's where you were from? 01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:54.960 In the same way, oh, you came from North Korea. 01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:58.720 I'm sure you have a weird background or a weird history. 01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:03.440 I guarantee there's plenty of saved people in Europe that said they were Catholic so 01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:05.920 they didn't get killed literally. 01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:09.760 Because if you didn't say that you're Catholic, they would just kill you. 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:11.400 They would just murder you. 01:21:11.420 --> 01:21:15.500 So you don't think there were some people that were just like, yeah, I'm Catholic, bro. 01:21:15.500 --> 01:21:17.580 Yeah, I'm Orthodox or whatever. 01:21:17.580 --> 01:21:20.940 It's like they want to just avoid being slaughtered or being killed. 01:21:20.940 --> 01:21:25.860 So yeah, I'm sure that there was lots of people throughout Europe that gave lip service to 01:21:25.860 --> 01:21:29.180 being Catholic even though they were saved and they believed right. 01:21:29.180 --> 01:21:33.620 Well, but where was the new IFB church? 01:21:33.620 --> 01:21:36.000 It probably didn't exist. 01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.940 Just like there's no new IFB church in the middle of Africa right now, okay? 01:21:39.940 --> 01:21:43.360 There's no new IFB church in North Korea. 01:21:43.360 --> 01:21:45.440 There's no new IFB church in China. 01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:50.440 Yeah, there's different times and different seasons and different things that happened. 01:21:50.440 --> 01:21:56.440 Do we have to have a perfect unbroken chain of new IFB churches to be legitimate? 01:21:56.440 --> 01:21:59.640 It's false doctrine. 01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:01.240 It's not what the Bible teaches. 01:22:01.240 --> 01:22:02.240 It doesn't matter. 01:22:02.240 --> 01:22:07.160 Jesus had to come back where the priest succession failed, where the children of Israel failed 01:22:07.160 --> 01:22:09.080 and institute the New Testament. 01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:14.180 Okay, the Apostle Paul has happened to come to churches like Alisha and Revelation where 01:22:14.180 --> 01:22:18.380 they've gone so bad that they have to either get restarted. 01:22:18.380 --> 01:22:22.500 Plus you have these guys starting new churches all the time, starting churches everywhere. 01:22:22.500 --> 01:22:24.140 But churches can come and go. 01:22:24.140 --> 01:22:25.340 Churches can get good. 01:22:25.340 --> 01:22:26.340 Churches can get bad. 01:22:26.340 --> 01:22:30.460 And look, my personal opinion is that I think that churches today are better than they've 01:22:30.460 --> 01:22:31.460 ever been. 01:22:31.460 --> 01:22:33.200 That's my personal opinion. 01:22:33.200 --> 01:22:35.120 You can believe whatever you want. 01:22:35.120 --> 01:22:38.220 There's an idea out there called the Acts 2 church or whatever. 01:22:38.220 --> 01:22:43.160 They want to be like the Acts 2 church because they think it's the best. 01:22:43.160 --> 01:22:44.160 Why is that better? 01:22:44.160 --> 01:22:45.160 Why is that? 01:22:45.160 --> 01:22:49.280 I mean, Acts 2 church didn't have all the epistles that we have to read today and clean 01:22:49.280 --> 01:22:50.940 up some things in the church. 01:22:50.940 --> 01:22:58.660 Why would the Acts 2 church be so great when all the epistles written have severe problems? 01:22:58.660 --> 01:23:03.160 You know, do you really read Corinthians and you think like, man, I wish I could go to 01:23:03.160 --> 01:23:04.160 that church. 01:23:05.160 --> 01:23:09.120 I wish I could go to the church where many of the people didn't believe in the resurrection, 01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:13.520 where people are suing each other, where they're having this weird Lord's Supper thing that's 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:14.520 going on. 01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:20.280 There's a guy in the church that has his father's wife and they're refusing to kick him out. 01:23:20.280 --> 01:23:23.640 I mean, is that, you're just like, man, why can't we have that church to go to? 01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:24.640 Right? 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:28.720 Oh, why can't we have the church in Asia where there's a woman named Jezebel going around 01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.000 teaching people to commit fornication? 01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:33.400 Like why can't we have that church? 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:37.200 Look, I'm not saying there weren't awesome Christians at that time. 01:23:37.200 --> 01:23:39.560 I'm not saying they didn't have some good services here and there. 01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:43.040 What I'm saying is over time, I think things have gotten better. 01:23:43.040 --> 01:23:45.080 You know what proves whether it's good or not? 01:23:45.080 --> 01:23:47.520 If it's going according to as it's written. 01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:54.620 Now we see in Hezekiah and Josiah's day, the Bible says that when they performed the Passover, 01:23:54.620 --> 01:23:57.660 it was the best that the Passover had ever been performed. 01:23:57.660 --> 01:23:58.920 And then it says why? 01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:00.460 Because it was done as it was written. 01:24:00.460 --> 01:24:04.700 And it says it was not done like this for a long time, meaning that the tradition of 01:24:04.700 --> 01:24:09.820 the Passover was not that great for hundreds and hundreds of years for a long time. 01:24:09.820 --> 01:24:12.180 And then they got it even better. 01:24:12.180 --> 01:24:17.760 And they performed the best Passover's that had ever been observed being hundreds of years 01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:22.760 or centuries away from when it was originally given the instructions to do so. 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:27.180 So why would I then think that we couldn't even being removed centuries and hundreds 01:24:27.740 --> 01:24:31.420 from the time that these things are written, not have some of the best churches and the 01:24:31.420 --> 01:24:33.540 greatest churches that have ever existed? 01:24:33.540 --> 01:24:34.900 We could. 01:24:34.900 --> 01:24:38.060 There's nothing doctrinally in the Bible teaching that we can't. 01:24:38.060 --> 01:24:41.340 There's nothing in the Bible saying that, well, back then they had great churches and 01:24:41.340 --> 01:24:43.540 today, you know, it's not like it used to be. 01:24:43.540 --> 01:24:47.340 This is again, this is like 1950s arguments, like, oh, the economy was super amazing in 01:24:47.340 --> 01:24:48.820 the 1950s. 01:24:48.820 --> 01:24:52.300 And today it's horrific and it's awful and nobody can afford anything. 01:24:52.540 --> 01:24:57.860 And it's like, look, how many people in the 1950s had a three car garage, a 3000 square 01:24:57.860 --> 01:25:03.100 foot home, had two cars, had a cell phone where they could talk to anybody in the world? 01:25:03.100 --> 01:25:07.860 Like, this is comparing apples to oranges. 01:25:07.860 --> 01:25:10.300 It's not even kind of the same. 01:25:10.300 --> 01:25:14.420 And, you know, I'm fine admitting that we're new. 01:25:14.420 --> 01:25:18.820 Oh, well, there's never been a church like y'all in the past. 01:25:18.820 --> 01:25:22.100 OK, maybe it's better. 01:25:22.140 --> 01:25:25.060 If we're doing something wrong, according to the Bible, then tell us and we'll change 01:25:25.060 --> 01:25:26.060 that. 01:25:26.220 --> 01:25:30.340 It's like, where was the church going to have an anti-Israel conference in the 60s or the 01:25:30.340 --> 01:25:32.940 70s? I don't know. 01:25:32.940 --> 01:25:34.140 But we're going to have one. 01:25:34.140 --> 01:25:35.780 You know what I mean? 01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:36.900 Like, it's OK. 01:25:36.900 --> 01:25:39.300 It's OK for some things to get better. 01:25:39.300 --> 01:25:42.580 It's OK. I mean, you don't think with technology, we can get some things better. 01:25:42.580 --> 01:25:45.420 You don't think with the printing press, church get a little bit better when everybody 01:25:45.420 --> 01:25:46.780 could have a Bible. 01:25:46.780 --> 01:25:50.860 You don't think that the King James Bible is a little bit better than having just 01:25:50.900 --> 01:25:55.020 handfuls of manuscripts and parchments that you have to kind of decipher and interpret 01:25:55.020 --> 01:25:55.940 for yourself. 01:25:55.940 --> 01:25:59.220 You don't think it's better to have the Internet where you can go online and learn about 01:25:59.220 --> 01:26:03.820 and read about anything you want and having cars and telephones and 01:26:04.100 --> 01:26:07.260 AI. I mean, AI now should make you better, not worse. 01:26:08.460 --> 01:26:10.580 You can learn so much more. 01:26:10.580 --> 01:26:13.820 Like, it's silly to think that churches can't get better over time. 01:26:14.780 --> 01:26:16.740 And why would God even want that doctrine anyways? 01:26:16.820 --> 01:26:21.380 Why would God want at a time when we have more humans on the earth than ever before 01:26:21.380 --> 01:26:25.820 for him to say, man, isn't it a shame that now that we have more Christians than ever 01:26:25.820 --> 01:26:28.420 before on the earth, that church has to suck? 01:26:29.460 --> 01:26:33.180 That there couldn't be a good option, that we can't actually serve God well, because 01:26:33.180 --> 01:26:37.380 look, there's eight billion people on the planet, even if only three or five percent 01:26:37.380 --> 01:26:38.700 of the population is saved. 01:26:38.700 --> 01:26:42.660 That's still way more people that are saved than ever before in the history. 01:26:43.180 --> 01:26:44.420 And time's passed. 01:26:44.420 --> 01:26:48.220 And yet God wants there to be good churches and God wants us to worship him and honor 01:26:48.380 --> 01:26:51.060 him. And you say, oh, well, the Protestant Reformation was new. 01:26:51.580 --> 01:26:53.700 Like, I don't care about these arguments. 01:26:53.900 --> 01:26:56.380 Even if it was new, it doesn't prove that it's wrong. 01:26:56.700 --> 01:26:58.340 Sometimes things have to reform. 01:26:58.340 --> 01:26:59.380 Some things have to repent. 01:26:59.380 --> 01:27:00.820 Some things have to get corrected. 01:27:00.940 --> 01:27:03.460 Some things have to be drugged back in the right direction. 01:27:04.220 --> 01:27:07.780 It does not just because it's new doesn't mean it's bad. 01:27:08.300 --> 01:27:09.820 Case in point, New Testament. 01:27:10.460 --> 01:27:11.900 Now, I had you turn to Galatians. 01:27:12.420 --> 01:27:15.740 You know, one of the things that's really important to distinguish, and I'm not going 01:27:15.740 --> 01:27:19.820 to go through all the doctrine because it doesn't really I mean, it's pretty quick. 01:27:20.100 --> 01:27:27.220 But according to the Orthodox Church, they teach that salvation is called theosis. 01:27:28.660 --> 01:27:30.620 Theosis is the idea that you become God. 01:27:32.140 --> 01:27:34.700 How much more do I have to explain that there's their doctrines wrong? 01:27:34.780 --> 01:27:41.660 OK, here's like like here's some quotes, OK, that they will say. 01:27:42.020 --> 01:27:46.540 About salvation for the son of God became man so that we might become God. 01:27:49.100 --> 01:27:52.780 Or more literally, God became man that man might become God. 01:27:53.300 --> 01:27:55.300 That's a quote that they will give lip service to. 01:27:55.740 --> 01:27:57.300 Here's another quote. 01:27:57.300 --> 01:28:01.580 Let us become as Christ is, since Christ became as we are. 01:28:01.780 --> 01:28:05.940 Let us become gods for his sake, since he became man for our sake. 01:28:06.940 --> 01:28:09.220 And these are quotes from. 01:28:10.100 --> 01:28:14.260 The second, third, fourth century from these people. 01:28:15.180 --> 01:28:18.260 That then they're saying, yeah, that's what we believe becoming a god. 01:28:18.620 --> 01:28:19.660 That's called Mormonism. 01:28:20.660 --> 01:28:25.220 Now, again, I think the Mormons, if you read this, they take it to a bigger extreme 01:28:25.740 --> 01:28:29.420 than the Orthodox, but the language that they're using is horrific. 01:28:29.420 --> 01:28:30.300 It's satanic. 01:28:30.300 --> 01:28:33.460 It's evil, has nothing to do with salvation. 01:28:34.180 --> 01:28:38.540 They literally think that you have to become like God on this earth to get saved. 01:28:39.020 --> 01:28:42.500 You have to basically get rid of all your sins and you have to go to church 01:28:42.500 --> 01:28:45.740 and you have to follow all the sacraments and you have to do all this stuff to be saved. 01:28:46.140 --> 01:28:48.980 You could be baptized in the in the Orthodox Church. 01:28:49.260 --> 01:28:50.660 You could be doing the sacraments. 01:28:50.660 --> 01:28:52.100 You could be eating the Eucharist. 01:28:52.100 --> 01:28:54.980 You'd be attending the service for decades after decades after decades. 01:28:54.980 --> 01:28:57.180 And then you quit, not saved. 01:28:57.860 --> 01:29:00.620 And they'll be like, oh, we don't believe in works. 01:29:00.620 --> 01:29:03.340 We believe in faith working through your works. 01:29:03.780 --> 01:29:10.580 And then again, it's just it's a it's a hardcore extreme work salvation. 01:29:12.180 --> 01:29:14.700 Now, Galatians two, what does the Bible say in verse 16? 01:29:14.700 --> 01:29:17.380 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, 01:29:17.780 --> 01:29:21.300 but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, 01:29:21.460 --> 01:29:25.380 that we might be justified by the faith of Christ and not by the works of the law, 01:29:25.580 --> 01:29:28.540 but by the works of the law, shall no flesh be justified. 01:29:28.660 --> 01:29:32.420 But if while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, 01:29:32.420 --> 01:29:34.140 is therefore Christ the minister of sin. 01:29:34.140 --> 01:29:36.180 God forbid. Skip down to verse 21. 01:29:36.180 --> 01:29:39.140 I do not frustrate the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, 01:29:39.140 --> 01:29:40.220 then Christ is dead in vain. 01:29:40.220 --> 01:29:45.340 Jesus is saying that and Paul is saying here specifically that, 01:29:45.820 --> 01:29:47.820 you know, if salvation were by the works of the law, 01:29:47.820 --> 01:29:49.380 then Christ didn't accomplish anything. 01:29:52.260 --> 01:29:54.940 Christ did accomplish something, you know, he accomplished everything. 01:29:55.540 --> 01:29:56.980 Jesus paid it all. 01:29:56.980 --> 01:29:58.740 That's the whole point of the cross. 01:29:58.740 --> 01:30:02.260 Any of these works based religions that the cross is meaningless. 01:30:02.700 --> 01:30:06.700 Because they say, well, you got to you got to take up your cross to be saved. 01:30:06.940 --> 01:30:08.380 No, you don't take up your cross to be saved. 01:30:08.380 --> 01:30:09.300 That's being a disciple. 01:30:10.620 --> 01:30:12.260 Few will be disciples. 01:30:12.260 --> 01:30:14.860 More will be saved in the grand scheme. 01:30:14.860 --> 01:30:16.020 Very few will even be saved. 01:30:16.020 --> 01:30:19.940 Why? Because the Catholics and the Orthodox teach a false religion, 01:30:19.940 --> 01:30:22.460 a false gospel, a works based salvation, 01:30:22.460 --> 01:30:24.740 and they think you have to eat the Eucharist to be saved. 01:30:24.740 --> 01:30:27.580 The Eucharist, again, is their version of communion of the Lord's Supper, 01:30:28.140 --> 01:30:30.100 where they eat the cracker and the juice. 01:30:30.100 --> 01:30:33.140 And they say it literally becomes Jesus' body and blood. 01:30:34.700 --> 01:30:38.180 And and when I say literally, they they're saying it's literally. 01:30:39.180 --> 01:30:43.380 His body and not just like the arm, his whole body, 01:30:43.700 --> 01:30:47.220 you're eating a whole Jesus every time you have the Eucharist, 01:30:47.820 --> 01:30:51.900 which scientifically, it's still bread inside their belly. 01:30:52.620 --> 01:30:54.820 If they threw up, they would throw up bread. 01:30:54.820 --> 01:30:55.940 It wouldn't be blood. 01:30:55.940 --> 01:30:58.220 And, you know, to me, this cheapens everything about the Bible, 01:30:58.420 --> 01:31:02.300 because when Moses turned the water into blood, I believe it was literal blood. 01:31:03.100 --> 01:31:04.580 But their juice stays juice. 01:31:04.580 --> 01:31:06.660 And it's alcoholic. It's wine. 01:31:06.660 --> 01:31:09.740 It's an alcoholic beverage that the Catholics and the Orthodox will typically drink. 01:31:10.780 --> 01:31:12.740 The cracker is still a cracker. 01:31:12.740 --> 01:31:15.180 How can you then believe the miracles of the Bible when you're sitting here 01:31:15.180 --> 01:31:18.140 claiming it's it's turning into a person when it really doesn't? 01:31:19.060 --> 01:31:21.420 And if it really doesn't, then couldn't you just say it's symbolic? 01:31:23.020 --> 01:31:24.820 But they don't want to say it's symbolic. 01:31:24.820 --> 01:31:26.700 They want to say it's literally happening, 01:31:26.700 --> 01:31:29.220 even though it's not literally happening. 01:31:29.220 --> 01:31:32.020 You don't understand the word literal. 01:31:32.020 --> 01:31:34.500 It's either really becoming Jesus or it's not. 01:31:34.620 --> 01:31:38.140 And if it's not physiologically changing into Jesus, then quit teaching that. 01:31:38.620 --> 01:31:40.660 It's false doctrine. It's blasphemous. 01:31:40.660 --> 01:31:43.420 And, you know, the Bible made it clear that Jesus was going to die once. 01:31:44.380 --> 01:31:46.380 So you sitting here eating him again. 01:31:46.380 --> 01:31:49.220 It's like trying to kill him again. Being a cannibal. 01:31:49.380 --> 01:31:51.340 The Bible forbids drinking blood. 01:31:51.340 --> 01:31:54.660 Why in the world would you sit here and literally drink Jesus's blood 01:31:54.740 --> 01:31:56.780 and literally eat his body? 01:31:56.780 --> 01:31:58.780 It's bizarre. It's weird. 01:31:58.780 --> 01:32:01.180 It's confusing. It's cannibalism. 01:32:01.180 --> 01:32:02.660 It's blasphemy. 01:32:02.660 --> 01:32:05.060 And again, that's what these groups say you have to do to be saved. 01:32:06.260 --> 01:32:08.740 If you're not partaking, you will not be saved. 01:32:09.300 --> 01:32:11.420 But look, Galatians chapter three, verse one, 01:32:11.420 --> 01:32:13.460 Oh, foolish Galatians who have bewitched you, 01:32:13.460 --> 01:32:15.540 they should not obey the truth before whose eyes Jesus Christ 01:32:15.540 --> 01:32:17.620 has been evidently set forth, crucified among you. 01:32:17.620 --> 01:32:22.220 If a church that was ordained by the Apostle Paul, 01:32:22.940 --> 01:32:26.980 formed by the Apostle Paul, perfect apostolic succession, 01:32:26.980 --> 01:32:31.820 perfect pedigree can go bad on the gospel in the first century. 01:32:31.860 --> 01:32:35.300 Why would I not think that a church two thousand years removed 01:32:35.380 --> 01:32:37.860 couldn't possibly go bad on the gospel? 01:32:37.860 --> 01:32:38.700 Of course they could. 01:32:38.700 --> 01:32:41.380 And of course, the Catholics and the Orthodox have always been wrong 01:32:41.620 --> 01:32:43.140 on the gospel. 01:32:43.140 --> 01:32:45.940 And just like the Jews went bad 01:32:46.220 --> 01:32:50.820 and just like the priesthood of Zadok went bad, tradition means nothing. 01:32:50.820 --> 01:32:54.540 They continue their works based tradition and it's false doctrine. 01:32:54.540 --> 01:32:58.460 We care about what the Bible says, not what is apostolic succession. 01:32:58.900 --> 01:33:00.820 This is a proof of another church is going bad. 01:33:00.820 --> 01:33:03.420 Chapter four, verse nine. 01:33:03.940 --> 01:33:07.100 But now, after that, you have known God or rather known of God. 01:33:07.220 --> 01:33:09.300 How turn you again to the weak and beggarly elements 01:33:09.300 --> 01:33:11.540 where until you desire again to be in bondage, you observe days 01:33:11.540 --> 01:33:12.740 and months and times and years. 01:33:12.740 --> 01:33:16.020 I'm afraid of you, lest I bestowed upon you labor and vain. 01:33:16.020 --> 01:33:19.820 He said, I'm afraid that this church is just bad and was always bad 01:33:19.980 --> 01:33:22.100 and that all the work I did was meaningless. 01:33:22.100 --> 01:33:25.220 And look, the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church is meaningless. 01:33:27.380 --> 01:33:29.900 Go to first, some of the forms, two more places we're going to finish. 01:33:31.260 --> 01:33:33.580 They have another thing now that this is kind of a difference. 01:33:33.740 --> 01:33:35.940 Obviously, there's some differences in some of their doctrines, 01:33:35.940 --> 01:33:38.460 but for the most part, it doesn't matter because they both teach work salvation. 01:33:38.940 --> 01:33:41.660 And that's all that that's enough for me to be done with them. 01:33:43.140 --> 01:33:46.300 The Roman Catholic Church is really in idolatry. 01:33:46.740 --> 01:33:50.100 OK, they have graven images everywhere. 01:33:50.100 --> 01:33:51.740 They worship graven images. 01:33:51.740 --> 01:33:53.780 They bow down to graven images. 01:33:53.780 --> 01:33:55.860 They'll kiss graven images. 01:33:55.860 --> 01:33:58.540 The Orthodox don't have idolatry per se, 01:33:59.020 --> 01:34:01.340 but they have this thing called icons. 01:34:01.340 --> 01:34:04.020 And so they don't have a 3D image. 01:34:04.340 --> 01:34:05.820 They have 2D images. 01:34:05.820 --> 01:34:08.540 OK, so all of their stuff is pictures 01:34:09.060 --> 01:34:10.940 and they'll have them all over the walls. 01:34:10.940 --> 01:34:15.700 And and they have specific pictures that are like, this is our icon. 01:34:15.740 --> 01:34:17.780 They have like a picture. This is Jesus. 01:34:17.780 --> 01:34:20.140 And it's like when you're performing the Eucharist or in there 01:34:20.260 --> 01:34:23.460 doing their liturgies or whatever, they have to be like looking at the eye. 01:34:23.500 --> 01:34:26.620 They have to look at the icons, you know, they have to stare at the icons. 01:34:26.620 --> 01:34:28.820 And it's really special. 01:34:28.820 --> 01:34:30.820 They have this one of the Trinity 01:34:30.820 --> 01:34:33.340 where it's three guys sitting at a table that all look the same. 01:34:34.260 --> 01:34:37.420 OK, and then and then people try to say that they don't believe, 01:34:37.420 --> 01:34:39.220 you know, like us in the Trinity, whatever. 01:34:39.220 --> 01:34:41.380 That's one of their icons. 01:34:41.380 --> 01:34:43.460 They have a literal icon of three angels. 01:34:43.500 --> 01:34:46.220 But again, their Jesus has long hair. 01:34:46.220 --> 01:34:48.220 Their Trinity has long hair. 01:34:48.220 --> 01:34:50.380 Your icon is false. 01:34:50.380 --> 01:34:54.300 And I'm sorry, but they're like Jesus is not this. 01:34:54.300 --> 01:34:57.540 Their icon, Jesus looks kind of retarded. 01:34:57.540 --> 01:35:02.180 All right. He's like he's got this like weird looking eye thing going on or whatever. 01:35:02.500 --> 01:35:05.060 And it's like the Bible says that Jesus had no blemish. 01:35:06.100 --> 01:35:09.540 It's wicked. Look, who would like it 01:35:09.700 --> 01:35:12.100 if I just found some cross eyed weirdo? 01:35:13.100 --> 01:35:16.900 And put a picture of it everywhere in your house and said, this is you. 01:35:20.180 --> 01:35:22.660 Like some bad AI rendering of you, 01:35:22.780 --> 01:35:26.820 making you look like a little special needs or whatever when you're not. 01:35:27.100 --> 01:35:29.900 And it's just like, that's that's mean and degrading. 01:35:30.260 --> 01:35:33.340 And then they have to stare at that while they're worshipping you or whatever. 01:35:33.620 --> 01:35:36.420 It's weird. That's what the Orthodox Church does. 01:35:36.660 --> 01:35:39.500 The Orthodox Church doesn't have chairs. You have to stand low service. 01:35:40.500 --> 01:35:42.420 And guess what? It's two hours, folks. 01:35:42.940 --> 01:35:44.580 Our pastor, he preaches so long. 01:35:44.580 --> 01:35:48.660 It was 1030 to a little after noon sometimes. 01:35:48.860 --> 01:35:50.820 That's not two hours. 01:35:50.820 --> 01:35:53.260 It has been, but it's not. 01:35:53.260 --> 01:35:56.820 And you're getting to sit. OK, folks, they have to stand. 01:35:58.420 --> 01:36:00.020 How many people are ready to be Orthodox now? 01:36:00.020 --> 01:36:01.340 You know what I mean? 01:36:01.340 --> 01:36:04.500 They'll stand for two hours while they sing. 01:36:04.500 --> 01:36:08.780 And again, they they do read some of the Bible in their services, 01:36:09.220 --> 01:36:11.500 but they don't read the Old Testament. 01:36:11.500 --> 01:36:13.900 Just an epistle, maybe some maybe some Psalms. 01:36:13.900 --> 01:36:16.260 OK, but like they're not going to read the law. 01:36:16.260 --> 01:36:17.780 They're not going to read the Bible stories. 01:36:17.780 --> 01:36:20.740 They have a 15 minute homily. 01:36:20.740 --> 01:36:24.980 It's not going to be spicy, although you read some of the church fathers 01:36:24.980 --> 01:36:28.180 in times past, John Christostome, he had some good writings. 01:36:28.180 --> 01:36:30.940 I wish he would show up to the Orthodox Church and preach for them. 01:36:30.940 --> 01:36:34.100 OK, even if he wasn't saved, it would just scare all of them away. 01:36:35.500 --> 01:36:37.340 But at the end of the day, like 01:36:37.340 --> 01:36:39.180 their services are weird. 01:36:39.180 --> 01:36:40.380 And this is what it is. 01:36:40.380 --> 01:36:42.780 It's just basically just a cult, folks, 01:36:43.700 --> 01:36:48.100 because it's it's just chance, just chance over and over, 01:36:48.180 --> 01:36:49.380 repetition over and over. 01:36:49.380 --> 01:36:51.700 God, we miss me a sinner. 01:36:51.700 --> 01:36:53.780 God, we miss me a sinner. 01:36:53.780 --> 01:36:55.700 Stare at the picture. 01:36:55.700 --> 01:36:57.460 God, we miss me a sinner. 01:36:57.460 --> 01:36:59.820 Give me a cracker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:36:59.820 --> 01:37:01.300 Give me a cracker. 01:37:01.300 --> 01:37:03.300 Jesus, God, we miss me a sinner. 01:37:03.300 --> 01:37:05.540 God, we miss me a sinner. 01:37:05.580 --> 01:37:07.660 That turns people into brain dead zombies. 01:37:07.940 --> 01:37:10.340 And let me tell you something, the followers of these religions 01:37:10.340 --> 01:37:11.900 are brain dead zombies. 01:37:11.900 --> 01:37:16.220 Yeah. If you get sucked into this long enough to be a brain dead zombie. 01:37:16.420 --> 01:37:18.700 And look, a lot of young men are turning into the Orthodox. 01:37:19.300 --> 01:37:23.900 Why? Because it's it's a form of self-discipline to do these things, right? 01:37:24.140 --> 01:37:27.220 Wouldn't it be a form of self-discipline to just stand for two hours? 01:37:27.980 --> 01:37:31.420 And it's a form of self-discipline to just do a chant over and over and over again. 01:37:31.700 --> 01:37:33.900 And, you know, it reminds these guys of working out, 01:37:34.300 --> 01:37:36.180 because working out, you do reps. 01:37:36.180 --> 01:37:38.540 You're just doing, you know, you're just doing reps. 01:37:38.660 --> 01:37:39.820 You're just doing lots of reps. 01:37:39.820 --> 01:37:41.540 You're doing 100 push ups or whatever. 01:37:41.540 --> 01:37:45.060 So to them, that's what they're using the Orthodox Church for. 01:37:45.420 --> 01:37:47.820 They think it's like working out spiritually. 01:37:47.940 --> 01:37:50.100 It's like God, we miss me a sinner. 01:37:50.100 --> 01:37:51.980 God, we miss me a sinner. 01:37:51.980 --> 01:37:53.740 God, we miss me a sinner. 01:37:53.740 --> 01:37:56.140 You know, but let me tell you something, you're accomplishing 01:37:56.140 --> 01:37:58.740 nothing spiritually by doing this. 01:37:58.740 --> 01:37:59.900 Keep the workout. 01:37:59.900 --> 01:38:02.900 Get rid of your fake Orthodox religion. 01:38:03.660 --> 01:38:05.300 It's trash. 01:38:05.300 --> 01:38:08.860 And of course, the Orthodox Church isn't going to get up and rip on doctrines. 01:38:08.860 --> 01:38:11.940 So it's easy to just show up and just do the rituals. 01:38:12.260 --> 01:38:14.620 Oh, we're Orthodox. Oh, we have the tradition. 01:38:14.620 --> 01:38:16.700 Oh, you know why they don't preach the Bible? 01:38:17.380 --> 01:38:19.860 Well, they don't need to. They already got everything right. 01:38:20.620 --> 01:38:22.260 We already have a tradition. 01:38:22.260 --> 01:38:23.220 Are you going to change anything? 01:38:23.220 --> 01:38:24.380 No, we can't change anything. 01:38:24.380 --> 01:38:25.340 We've already got it locked in. 01:38:25.340 --> 01:38:27.820 We already do it. We're just God, we miss me a sinner. 01:38:28.340 --> 01:38:29.340 Come out of the Eucharist. 01:38:29.340 --> 01:38:31.300 We already got it locked in. 01:38:31.300 --> 01:38:33.460 Here's another reason why they don't want to actually read the Bible, 01:38:33.700 --> 01:38:36.620 because then you start being like, wait, where's any of this in the Bible? 01:38:37.700 --> 01:38:39.580 Where's the icon in the Bible? 01:38:39.580 --> 01:38:42.140 Oh, yeah, it doesn't exist. 01:38:42.140 --> 01:38:45.380 Where is that, you know, infant baptism? 01:38:45.380 --> 01:38:47.180 Oh, yeah, it doesn't exist. 01:38:47.180 --> 01:38:48.740 Where's your works based salvation? 01:38:48.740 --> 01:38:49.820 Oh, yeah, it doesn't exist. 01:38:49.820 --> 01:38:52.180 So then they have to quote church fathers that are heretics 01:38:52.500 --> 01:38:54.100 in order to prop it up. 01:38:54.740 --> 01:38:57.580 And they don't want you to question anything because they already got it right. 01:38:57.660 --> 01:39:01.780 And they say, how dare you try to use the Bible over our tradition? 01:39:02.260 --> 01:39:03.780 We already got it locked in. 01:39:03.780 --> 01:39:05.900 You can't you don't understand the Bible. 01:39:05.900 --> 01:39:06.740 You know why they say that? 01:39:06.740 --> 01:39:08.700 Because the Bible contradicts their tradition. 01:39:09.340 --> 01:39:13.780 So they have to reject the word of God to keep their own tradition. 01:39:13.900 --> 01:39:15.860 And it is a glorified cult. 01:39:15.860 --> 01:39:19.180 Just you can't even sit down, stand up and shut up. 01:39:19.820 --> 01:39:21.740 Eat the cracker. Go home. 01:39:23.260 --> 01:39:25.300 Here's the worst part about being Orthodox, though, 01:39:25.860 --> 01:39:29.220 if I haven't already sold you all right. 01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:31.780 They have 180 to 200 days a year. 01:39:31.780 --> 01:39:35.820 They have to fast and have a vegan style diet. 01:39:37.500 --> 01:39:41.140 180 to 200 days a year. 01:39:42.700 --> 01:39:43.540 It's insane. 01:39:43.540 --> 01:39:46.580 Wednesdays and Fridays year round. 01:39:47.580 --> 01:39:49.500 You have to have this great lent. 01:39:49.500 --> 01:39:50.340 You just can't eat. 01:39:50.340 --> 01:39:51.940 That's why they have fish Fridays. 01:39:51.940 --> 01:39:53.420 It's like, man, Friday is date night. 01:39:53.420 --> 01:39:55.180 I'm not going to do that. 01:39:55.740 --> 01:39:58.500 And Wednesdays, you know, after Wednesdays, I usually get a burger. 01:39:59.500 --> 01:40:02.420 I'm not changing that. All right. 01:40:02.420 --> 01:40:08.500 This means no meat, dairy, eggs, oil or wine during those periods. 01:40:08.500 --> 01:40:11.700 It's a strict plant based diet during those periods. 01:40:14.780 --> 01:40:16.460 Oh, wait, what is what is first, 01:40:16.460 --> 01:40:19.980 Timothy, chapter number four actually teach in the Bible? 01:40:20.260 --> 01:40:22.540 Now, the spirit speak of expressly that in the latter time, 01:40:22.540 --> 01:40:25.940 some should depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits 01:40:25.940 --> 01:40:29.580 and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in hypocrisy, 01:40:29.700 --> 01:40:33.580 having their conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry 01:40:34.020 --> 01:40:37.580 and commanding to abstain from meats, which God has created 01:40:37.580 --> 01:40:40.180 to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 01:40:41.780 --> 01:40:43.500 You want to know who this verse is about? 01:40:43.500 --> 01:40:47.940 It's about the Orthodox who teach celibacy in many cases, 01:40:48.100 --> 01:40:52.420 and they teach that you have to have this 180 to 200 day 01:40:52.540 --> 01:40:56.060 vegan style diet, avoiding all kinds of meats. 01:40:56.460 --> 01:40:59.660 Why do you think the Mediterranean diet is subpar, folks? 01:41:00.860 --> 01:41:04.020 You know, and I'm sorry, I'm offensive in that pinching. 01:41:04.780 --> 01:41:09.380 I'm saying that it has it has a limited cuisine in many cases. 01:41:09.580 --> 01:41:12.020 The Mediterranean diet is very different. 01:41:12.580 --> 01:41:14.980 Where's all the steak? 01:41:16.020 --> 01:41:18.020 Why don't they think about it? 01:41:18.020 --> 01:41:20.060 Why is it that they don't have tons of meat? 01:41:20.060 --> 01:41:22.620 Why are they having the goats and the sheep and all this kind of stuff? 01:41:22.980 --> 01:41:25.020 You think about it, if you can't have dairy all the time, 01:41:25.260 --> 01:41:28.580 if you can't have this meat all the time, well, then you're not going 01:41:28.580 --> 01:41:31.860 to be able to have cows all the time, because if you're not eating it, it 01:41:32.260 --> 01:41:34.140 it dies, it kills itself. 01:41:34.140 --> 01:41:36.940 You run out of stock where there's good doctrine. 01:41:37.020 --> 01:41:38.060 There's going to be good food. 01:41:38.060 --> 01:41:38.900 And I know I'm really offensive. 01:41:38.900 --> 01:41:40.260 This is my personal opinion, right? 01:41:40.260 --> 01:41:42.700 We're about to have a barbecue brisket meal. 01:41:44.180 --> 01:41:45.620 But some people love Mediterranean food. 01:41:45.620 --> 01:41:49.620 I'm not mad at you, but I'm just saying if you look at cuisines, they're different. 01:41:49.860 --> 01:41:50.940 Why are they different? 01:41:50.940 --> 01:41:52.420 It's doctrine. 01:41:52.420 --> 01:41:56.500 It is the doctrine that is making these things different in many cases, 01:41:56.660 --> 01:41:57.940 especially in today's world. 01:41:57.940 --> 01:41:59.420 In times past, I get it. 01:41:59.420 --> 01:42:02.020 Certain areas, certain cultures didn't have certain foods. 01:42:02.260 --> 01:42:04.340 So they're limited by their geography. 01:42:04.340 --> 01:42:08.580 But in today's world, in many cases, it's doctrinally related. 01:42:09.020 --> 01:42:11.660 There is a doctrinal significance to food. 01:42:12.140 --> 01:42:15.780 Why is God using food for all kinds of different examples? 01:42:16.060 --> 01:42:18.420 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees. 01:42:18.460 --> 01:42:19.860 Oh, it's not it's not the bread. 01:42:19.860 --> 01:42:20.660 I get it. 01:42:20.660 --> 01:42:24.100 But at the end of the day, the bread will be different in these places. 01:42:24.300 --> 01:42:26.900 The Bible talks about the bread of affliction. 01:42:27.060 --> 01:42:29.420 The Bible talks about the bread of wickedness. 01:42:29.780 --> 01:42:31.940 The Bible talks about the bread of idleness. 01:42:32.220 --> 01:42:35.660 And let me tell you something, breads are not all equal on this planet. 01:42:36.820 --> 01:42:40.060 And let me tell you something, whatever you believe will affect your doctrine. 01:42:40.060 --> 01:42:42.820 Notice people are commanded to abstain from certain meats. 01:42:43.140 --> 01:42:45.780 You go to certain parts of the world, certain cuisines, 01:42:45.940 --> 01:42:47.900 and they're going to be very, very different. 01:42:48.460 --> 01:42:50.580 Why? Because of the religious practices. 01:42:50.980 --> 01:42:52.340 And this is why I'm mad. 01:42:52.340 --> 01:42:56.700 I'm just still mad because I would go to a barbecue restaurant in Texas 01:42:57.340 --> 01:43:00.100 on Friday and they said we have no beef. 01:43:02.060 --> 01:43:05.700 I'm not joking. I went into a barbecue restaurant 01:43:06.140 --> 01:43:08.100 and it was like you can only have catfish. 01:43:09.460 --> 01:43:11.300 Why? Because everybody there was Catholic. 01:43:12.380 --> 01:43:14.340 And just still makes me mad. All right. 01:43:14.740 --> 01:43:16.260 I'm still mad about it. 01:43:16.300 --> 01:43:19.260 And I'm just like, you know, then I had to leave and go somewhere else. 01:43:19.260 --> 01:43:20.500 I didn't stay. 01:43:20.500 --> 01:43:23.260 I'm not going to stay and support that junk hole. 01:43:23.500 --> 01:43:25.860 And of course, it failed and it should fail. 01:43:26.140 --> 01:43:30.100 But at the end of the day, it's like doctrine matters. 01:43:30.940 --> 01:43:32.460 Go to Act 17. We'll finish there. 01:43:32.460 --> 01:43:34.620 Go to Act chapter 17. 01:43:39.460 --> 01:43:43.500 God caused people to go into the land flowing with milk and honey. 01:43:44.420 --> 01:43:45.820 Why? Because it's good. 01:43:45.820 --> 01:43:48.460 Now, again, I get goats have milk and I get goats have meat. 01:43:48.740 --> 01:43:50.580 And there's a lot of people that are goat farmers. 01:43:50.580 --> 01:43:52.860 Sheep, obviously, also are good for meat. 01:43:53.220 --> 01:43:54.980 There's nothing wrong with these things. 01:43:54.980 --> 01:43:58.100 But at the end of the day, you know, the vast majority of sacrifices 01:43:58.100 --> 01:43:59.620 were in the Old Testament. 01:44:00.380 --> 01:44:03.020 Cattle, it was heifers, it was oxen. 01:44:03.220 --> 01:44:05.820 When you look at the sheer volume, you should get the sheer number. 01:44:06.380 --> 01:44:10.660 It'll have way more oxen slaughtered than it will have of the other animals. 01:44:10.820 --> 01:44:14.060 And look, an ox being slaughtered is so much more meat. 01:44:14.300 --> 01:44:19.060 I mean, the amount of meat on an ox or a cow is just so much more. 01:44:19.220 --> 01:44:22.100 I mean, how can you read the Bible and not want to eat beef? 01:44:23.020 --> 01:44:25.700 I mean, it's just like it's just cows everywhere. 01:44:26.260 --> 01:44:27.820 I mean, there's a cow here, cow there. 01:44:27.820 --> 01:44:30.700 Even Jesus in the Book of Genesis is eating cow. All right. 01:44:32.100 --> 01:44:36.020 You know, Abraham is coming, the calf that's tender, the tender calf. 01:44:36.420 --> 01:44:39.620 And, you know, again, milk is amazing. 01:44:39.620 --> 01:44:41.740 OK, folks, I love milk. 01:44:41.980 --> 01:44:45.060 The Bible uses milk to describe itself. 01:44:45.380 --> 01:44:48.180 The word of God is milk. 01:44:48.180 --> 01:44:50.620 But again, they have these vegan style diets 01:44:51.020 --> 01:44:54.020 where they're not having milk, where they're not having meat. 01:44:54.380 --> 01:44:59.260 And look, I'm not saying you couldn't hypothetically be healthy on a vegan diet, 01:44:59.420 --> 01:45:02.980 but I personally do not agree with it. 01:45:03.420 --> 01:45:08.180 I don't think that you should try to go for these weird, fad, strange diets. 01:45:08.700 --> 01:45:10.820 I think you're probably going to be more healthy 01:45:10.940 --> 01:45:14.100 if you're eating meats, you're having dairy, you're having milk, 01:45:14.340 --> 01:45:15.500 you're having eggs. 01:45:15.500 --> 01:45:18.140 And of course, there's some people out there that try to say it's all bad. 01:45:18.820 --> 01:45:20.020 Eggs are bad for you. 01:45:20.020 --> 01:45:24.660 Cholesterol and milk's bad for you and and meat's bad for you. 01:45:24.660 --> 01:45:25.700 And all this kind of stuff. 01:45:25.700 --> 01:45:29.380 Look, it's a doctrine of devils to refuse or abstain to eat meats. 01:45:29.860 --> 01:45:31.700 That's what the Bible teaches. 01:45:31.700 --> 01:45:33.700 And if no one will, I'll defend them. 01:45:33.700 --> 01:45:35.700 I will promote them. I will be the commercial. 01:45:35.980 --> 01:45:38.420 What's for dinner? Beef. That's what's for dinner. 01:45:39.300 --> 01:45:41.940 Got milk? Yes, I got milk. 01:45:42.340 --> 01:45:44.820 It's a crisis when we're out of milk. 01:45:44.820 --> 01:45:46.780 I don't know, me and my wife were watching something the other day, 01:45:47.100 --> 01:45:49.900 and the guy's like sitting down on the couch ready to like relax 01:45:49.900 --> 01:45:52.100 for the rest of the day. And the wife's like, we're out of milk. 01:45:52.100 --> 01:45:53.940 It's like he has to leave. 01:45:53.940 --> 01:45:57.860 He has to go to the store and get some milk because that's that's the doctrine. 01:45:57.860 --> 01:45:59.180 OK, I mean, think about it. 01:45:59.180 --> 01:46:00.500 What you said, there's no more Bible. 01:46:00.500 --> 01:46:03.540 It's like, oh, we're going to get the Bible, you know, we got to get the word of God. 01:46:04.060 --> 01:46:06.260 But at the end of the day, when we talk about the Orthodox Church, 01:46:07.140 --> 01:46:08.300 here's what matters. 01:46:08.300 --> 01:46:10.300 The Bible, not tradition. 01:46:10.300 --> 01:46:13.540 Who cares? We should test and evaluate every tradition with the Bible 01:46:13.860 --> 01:46:15.820 and say, what does the Bible teach? 01:46:15.820 --> 01:46:18.180 And you should be like a Brian. Acts, chapter 17, verse 11. 01:46:18.340 --> 01:46:20.100 These are more noble than those in Thessalonica 01:46:20.100 --> 01:46:22.860 and that they receive the word of all readiness of mind and search 01:46:22.860 --> 01:46:26.820 the scriptures daily, whether those things are so the Orthodox is not asking 01:46:26.820 --> 01:46:29.100 their church to search the scriptures and test whether or not 01:46:29.100 --> 01:46:31.060 what they're doing is biblical. 01:46:31.620 --> 01:46:33.260 What is the right thing to do? 01:46:33.300 --> 01:46:36.460 Go home and check and make sure everything I said is right. 01:46:37.780 --> 01:46:41.500 Don't just don't just come to, you know, step fast and just do whatever I say. 01:46:41.940 --> 01:46:44.900 Go home and make sure everything I said was right. 01:46:45.300 --> 01:46:47.300 And if the Bible says it, believe it. 01:46:48.340 --> 01:46:52.500 If I said it and the Bible's neutral, you should probably agree. 01:46:52.860 --> 01:46:55.420 All right. But you don't have to. 01:46:55.420 --> 01:46:57.940 If I said something in the Bible saying anything different, 01:46:58.100 --> 01:47:02.380 please reject anything that I said and only believe the Bible. OK. 01:47:03.100 --> 01:47:05.340 And at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the Bible. 01:47:06.140 --> 01:47:08.460 We got this. This is Jesus. 01:47:08.460 --> 01:47:10.860 And you know what the Orthodox will also say? This is not Jesus. 01:47:12.420 --> 01:47:16.500 Many Orthodox will get up and say, oh, Jesus really isn't the word of God. 01:47:16.820 --> 01:47:18.860 The word of God just points to Jesus. 01:47:18.860 --> 01:47:21.660 So we need to worship Jesus, not the Bible. 01:47:21.660 --> 01:47:22.860 Here's the thing. 01:47:22.860 --> 01:47:24.180 Then what do they think Jesus is? 01:47:24.180 --> 01:47:26.580 Oh, some picture on the wall of some cross-eyed dude. 01:47:27.540 --> 01:47:32.220 They literally think that staring at a picture of a cross-eyed dude on the wall, 01:47:32.300 --> 01:47:36.140 painted hundreds of years after Jesus Christ, is more legitimate 01:47:36.260 --> 01:47:39.420 than actually giving honor to the word of God itself. 01:47:40.820 --> 01:47:42.580 It's wicked. It's satanic. 01:47:42.580 --> 01:47:44.140 It's a cult. 01:47:44.140 --> 01:47:48.860 It's designed to keep you brain dead and just go to the mercy of the sinner. 01:47:48.860 --> 01:47:50.060 God rest me a sinner. 01:47:50.060 --> 01:47:52.460 Bro, go work out and then become new I.B. All right. 01:47:54.020 --> 01:47:55.620 And actually read your Bible. 01:47:55.620 --> 01:47:58.380 You know, the reps you should be putting in is reading the Bible, 01:47:58.660 --> 01:48:00.500 not just saying God rest me a sinner. 01:48:00.540 --> 01:48:01.340 Isn't it sad? 01:48:01.340 --> 01:48:04.660 There's going to be people who said God rest me a sinner a million times 01:48:04.660 --> 01:48:06.500 and they're not saved. 01:48:06.500 --> 01:48:08.500 It's not saying it that saves you. 01:48:08.500 --> 01:48:10.540 It's believing in your heart and confessing. 01:48:11.500 --> 01:48:13.580 And they don't believe in salvation by faith. 01:48:13.580 --> 01:48:14.500 They deny it. 01:48:14.500 --> 01:48:16.700 So, you know, we should love the Orthodox and give them the gospel. 01:48:16.700 --> 01:48:17.500 But you know what? 01:48:17.500 --> 01:48:19.380 Don't become Orthodox. 01:48:19.380 --> 01:48:20.420 They're not saved. Let's go to prayer. 01:48:20.420 --> 01:48:22.820 Thank you, Father, for the word of God. 01:48:23.060 --> 01:48:25.220 Thank you for giving us something to test tradition. 01:48:25.220 --> 01:48:28.580 Thank you for giving us something to test race, to test, 01:48:29.540 --> 01:48:33.340 you know, anything that we believe, food doctrine, salvation doctrine, 01:48:33.340 --> 01:48:35.540 church doctrine, traditions. 01:48:35.540 --> 01:48:38.580 I pray that we would only trust in the Bible. 01:48:38.780 --> 01:48:41.620 I pray that we be like Marines when we go home, we search the scriptures 01:48:41.620 --> 01:48:43.900 and we make sure the things that we believe are in the Bible. 01:48:44.620 --> 01:48:46.740 I pray that you would help us not to just believe tradition, 01:48:47.060 --> 01:48:48.940 but the test and prove all things. 01:48:48.940 --> 01:48:50.940 And I pray that you continue to bless our church 01:48:51.140 --> 01:48:53.340 so that we get more people saved in Jesus name we pray. Amen. 01:48:58.900 --> 01:49:02.500 All right, for our last song, let's go to song number 19. 01:49:10.100 --> 01:49:12.140 Song number 19. 01:49:15.660 --> 01:49:17.500 There is a fountain. 01:49:17.500 --> 01:49:21.020 Song number 19. 01:49:21.860 --> 01:49:24.060 Let's all sing that out together. 01:49:24.380 --> 01:49:27.700 There is a fountain. 01:49:27.700 --> 01:49:31.700 Song number 19. 01:49:31.700 --> 01:49:34.700 Song number 19. 01:49:34.700 --> 01:49:39.700 Song number 19. 01:49:39.700 --> 01:49:44.700 Song number 19. 01:49:44.700 --> 01:49:49.700 Song number 19. 01:49:50.340 --> 01:49:55.340 Song number 19. 01:50:01.020 --> 01:50:06.020 Song number 19. 01:50:11.300 --> 01:50:16.300 Song number 19. 01:50:16.300 --> 01:50:24.300 There may I go while as He washed all my sins away. 01:50:24.300 --> 01:50:29.300 Washed all my sins away. 01:50:29.300 --> 01:50:34.300 Washed all my sins away. 01:50:34.300 --> 01:50:44.300 And there may I go while as He washed all my sins away. 01:50:44.300 --> 01:50:54.300 Dear dying Lamb, thy precious blood shall never lose its power. 01:50:54.300 --> 01:51:04.300 Till all the rants of the Church of God be saved to sin no more. 01:51:04.300 --> 01:51:09.300 Be saved to sin no more. 01:51:09.300 --> 01:51:13.300 Be saved to sin no more. 01:51:13.300 --> 01:51:23.300 Till all the rants of the Church of God be saved to sin no more. 01:51:23.300 --> 01:51:33.300 Ere sinned by faith I saw the stream, my calling would supply. 01:51:33.300 --> 01:51:42.300 Redeeming love has been my plea, and shall be till I die. 01:51:42.300 --> 01:51:47.300 And shall be till I die. 01:51:47.300 --> 01:51:52.300 And shall be till I die. 01:51:52.300 --> 01:52:02.300 Redeeming love has been my plea, and shall be till I die. 01:52:02.300 --> 01:52:12.300 Then in the nobler, sweeter song, I'll sing thy power to save. 01:52:12.300 --> 01:52:21.300 Will this cordless, pink-staring tongue lie silent in the grave? 01:52:21.300 --> 01:52:31.300 Lie silent in the grave. Lie silent in the grave. 01:52:31.300 --> 01:52:41.300 Will this cordless, pink-staring tongue lie silent in the grave? 01:53:01.300 --> 01:53:06.300 Thank you. 01:53:31.300 --> 01:53:33.300 Thank you. 01:54:01.300 --> 01:54:04.300 Thank you.