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Bibles and turn to Psalm 101 that is Psalm 101

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as

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We always do we'll read the entire chapter

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Follow along silently as we read Psalm 101

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Psalm 101 the Bible reads I

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Will sing of mercy and judgment unto thee. Oh Lord. Will I sing I will behave myself wisely

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In a perfect way oh when wilt thou come unto me I will walk within my house with a perfect heart

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I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes

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I hate the work of them that turn aside it shall not cleave to me a

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Forward heart shall depart from me. I will not know a wicked person

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Who so privily slandereth his neighbor him will I cut off him that hath a high look and a proud heart

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Will not I suffer

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Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land that they may dwell with me he that walketh in a perfect way

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He shall serve me he that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house

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He that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight

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I will early destroy all the wicked out of the land that I may cut off all the wicked doers from the city of the Lord

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Brother Alex, would you bless the service for us?

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I

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Don't think I need that sounds like we're working

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So I was like I was actually

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I think his last Sunday is about the asked pastor

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You know when the that is I had a sermon topic in mind

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I was gonna ask him if I could preach and then he actually comes up to me and says hey

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Can you preach Sunday night?

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Sounds like okay. That's about to ask you that anyway

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So it's always nice I always like preaching it's a

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You know, you really learn a lot yourself

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When you do these things, you're actually now studying for a purpose you have a goal

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I really need a goal to be able to study and so preaching gives me that that clear goal

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So grateful for pastor for allowing us all to do this house have some fun sure everyone is preached up here

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It's been a pretty fun experience

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You know once you get it once you finish your sermon, you're not like

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Procrastinating like me and doing it Saturday night. So it's always fun and you know a little bit nervous

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But yeah, it's like thank pastor has opened a quick word prayer Lord is in your spirit to preach your message and

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preach from your word and

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Edify all the people here Jesus I pray him in so I

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Was actually going to preach about slavery more specifically chattel slavery that would be in the south. I didn't do that

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Because I just ended up sounding like a deranged

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Congregationalist who if you don't know what the that the Massachusetts preachers there are a lot of them

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Congregationalists a lot of northern Baptists and they were very radical in their approach. They're very anti slavery

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That's what split the Baptist between the northern and southern and it wasn't really a lot

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I couldn't really go about an hour into that because it is a very complicated topic

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so one of my secondary option which was

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The something that's interested me and before I get in us to play a little game of you know, can you guess what?

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I can you guess what it is?

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Something happened on Wednesday

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You will know what happened on Wednesday. It's an annual event

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April 15th

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Anyone

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There you go. Thanks day. I

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Don't know. It's not I don't think it's a big deal. Is it nowadays, you know back in the day

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it seems to be much more of a

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Hassle, I guess when when everything is electronic and you can just do things online submit online. It's a lot less

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You know compared to back then you have paper

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W-2 using actually to do them now we have all these services like H&R Brock Jackson Hewitt

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Who do it for you so it's a lot less hassle, but you know just thinking back to

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There's a season 9 Simpsons episode about what there's a mad scramble for tax day

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That's April 5th 1998 a week before I was born interesting enough. So

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Apparently it was the big thing but since this tax day people

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Was but I think most people probably filed long ago

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You know you kind of look at your w-2 and it has all the deductions taken out of it already

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Or if you're independent contractor, you have to write a check

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So everyone kind of starts thinking about taxes and you know taxes, of course downstream from politics

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They're kind of one in the same never kind of like I was wondering like that's a lot of money coming out of my paycheck

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You start doing the math on that one

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You know, I got a side up you life would be a lot better if I had do that that money

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I didn't have to give to what uncle Sam you start grumbling. But um, I

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Don't know

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Taxes are you have to pay them. I'm sorry

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There are a lot of Christians who are tax protesters that is wholly unbiblical. The Bible is pretty clear

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You have to pay your taxes

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You know

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Just as you have to pay your tithe you have to pay your taxes. They're kind of

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Going to different ministries and so the title of my sermon is the other ministry the other ministry and that is what we'd call

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The state or temporal power temporal power there the government the man and

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You know

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Justice as I said, just as you pay your tithe the church

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Whatever you read and actually read it and it's kind of apropos we read it in the first Samuel 8 on Thursday where Samuel warns

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The people of Israel about the king and one of them thinks he warns about was you're gonna have to pay taxes to

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The king I do not know what the

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Political situation of the book of judges was in turn, you know in between all the judges

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I imagine they probably had a local council of elders, you know

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Just go and look at what Moses had set up

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But they didn't really have a centralized authority and one of the things centralized authority does is

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You need ministers now you have things to manage, you know, you need you know, everyone doesn't know one likes bureaucrats

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They kind of get a bad rep, but you kind of need them, you know, you're running a city

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You have all this grain storage. Someone's got to do the Excel spreadsheet or the old tablet if you didn't know one of the oldest

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some of the oldest writing in the world, there's the

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The the business complaint against in this year for shipping bad copper

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There's a warehouse spreadsheet and a recipe for beer and those are some of the oldest writing we have out there

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So whatever complaint you have against, you know work, it's not new

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Better Business Bureau has been around for a long long time. So is Excel but oh

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man, I got off got off track on that one, but

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This is something, you know, it's a tax protesters unbiblical

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Romans 13 is pretty clear that you just have to pay your taxes. A lot of people will say well, it's it's oppressive

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You have you do have an argument. There are a lot of taxes

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You still have to do it. I'm sorry like as much as it sucks

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I don't like I'd rather not pay sales tax right a lot of people in Washington would rather not that's why Hayden Island exists

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Why is there so a bunch of outlet stores right over the border? Why is Ikea right over the border?

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it's because Washingtonians do not like paying taxes on sales sales tax, but

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So you can make an argument suppressive, but it's really not your call of paying is still proper and

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So

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Well, just as the tithe

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Thanks just as the tithe in a 1st Corinthians 9 13

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Paul says do you not know that they which minister about holy things live off the things of the temple?

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Of course, this is talking about the Old Testament temple tithe. We had to pay 10% of what you

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earn or produce

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to the

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Lyrical order and this is what they live off of you saying well now in the New Testament

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This is for that same purpose that the the path we you know, the pastor lives off of ideally would live off the tithe

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I mean this building is not free. We do have to pay rent. We do have to have power

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You know invites all this kind of stuff cost money and this is all

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You know all part of the church and how does the church collect it is through the tithe and goodwill offerings

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and then this

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Similar to that is a stay also collects it for the same purpose to go about their work

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And I'll get into what they do and how they do it

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But a Roman is 13. It's a 13 seven says render therefore all their dues tribute to him tribute is to

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custom to him custom, you know tribute this will be taxes custom is

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would be similar to if you have import fees like tariffs or excise taxic taxes that is what that is and

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Why is that is that one the church ministers things of God?

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but not to neglect that the state also serves an important function for the Lord and

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Interestingly in Mark

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1217 we have Christ is the Pharisees come up tried to trip him up on paying taxes

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and he says render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's and

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It's really interesting. These things are

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both phrased

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pretty much identically and

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That they're they're separate but they're almost not equal, you know, of course God supreme

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I think you know when he's talking about things are God's talking about like the temple tax

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This is separate but there are you know rises doesn't say don't pay your taxes

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He's saying you know, this this little this penny. This is a you know, worldly thing. You have to pay the Caesar

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So, of course this sermon is about the ministry of the Lord being the state they they are important

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They're a thing. I'll get to why they're a thing and why I was interested in this well

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you know, I grew up largely in the era of George Bush and then Obama and Trump won and

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Biden now Trump too and you know growing up the president had this really it's kind of lethargic if I remember

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It wasn't really into the news back then but I don't really remember

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Obama doing a lot is kind of just he did some things and Bush was kind of doing the whole Middle East thing

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So but now it's like I got really into it because we have a very active executive branch

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We're very you know doing doing stuff, which is kind of crazy

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So I got into it and I was kind of contemplating so we have this

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You know

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The Bible is talking about a lot about kings and how kings are kind of special

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They are clearly the main characters of the whole story a lot of times

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From a narrative point of view, you know, of course Christ is the main character of the Bible

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But you know, we have four books the bricks of Kings the books of Chronicles where it follows the journey of Kings and important people

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Throughout the minor prophets Kings play a very big role such as in Daniel Eve Nebuchadnezzar and the Persian kings Cyrus and

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Darius and then through the building in a temple there they're ever-present. They're very involved

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And very important you have multiple poets and the books of Psalms and Proverbs where it gives special

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Instructions to King especially in Proverbs where I think it's in Proverbs where it talks about the the heart of the King is in God's hands

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You know, they're special and well, we don't have a king right? How does that correlate with our modern Federal Republic?

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So I just thought I was always wondering like

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What do we do? Like we don't have a king the Kings are special. We have a Federal Republic. Is that less special?

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so this is why I'm preaching this is I

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Was curious so, you know, maybe someone else's maybe we answer your question at the very least

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Hopefully you'll be at peace not friends with the world

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But like kind of at peace that makes sense where you're not like struggling against things that you know are bigger than all of us

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Just you know go about our lives sometimes that's usually what we can do. Well, the first thing is, you know, why do we have a government?

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Can't we all just?

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You know sing kumbaya and get along and then there's no they did that in judges and that didn't work out. They did that

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you know the

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The Bible says in Genesis 6 5 and God saw the wickedness of man was great in earth and

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Every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually

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Well, this is of course pre flood but you know not much has changed when we're still man. We were still going to be evil in

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in

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Federalist 15 written by publius

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Which is either?

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Hamilton Madison or Jay depending on which one

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He says why is government but instituted at all because the passions of man will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice

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Without constraint and in 51 he says if man were angels no government would be necessary. So this is something obviously

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Government is a product of the fall

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It's one of these things where because we're sinful in our nature if we're just left around devices

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It's gonna be disaster and we wouldn't we just you know form

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You know everyone knows this when you have anarchy if you look at the early days of the Bolshevik Revolution we had a

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effectively anarchy people just get killed and

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So you kind of need that strong government to make sure people are not just killing each other randomly for very little reason

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and we're not defrauding each other and

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That is why we have we have government

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Also, if you look in the book of Genesis as soon as the fall happens people start building cities as I said

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You know when you have cities when you have organization you need a leader you need somebody to run it you bureaucrats to manage it

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You know think about your workplace

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What would happen if everyone in your workplace was doing?

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Just stuff right you wouldn't make anything you'd be spending your time. Just

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Wondering what the other guys doing you need those the leads the supervisors to you know tell people to do they have the bigger picture

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The more detached they can see it more more have more view

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They can see the the bigger picture that I said I can understand what's going on. You may not you might not know it's like

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I'm sure you've had the

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That moment you're at work you get this a lot in blue car and it's like well. What does my boss know?

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You know he told me to jump on this project

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You know I was doing this or you might have complaint

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and he's like

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it might not he might be putting you there for a very good reason because he might know that there's a bigger project coming up right that

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you don't know about and

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That's that's government right there is sometimes they they are aware of things before they before they happen that we might not be aware of

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So let's say we have government because we're sinful we need somebody to

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You know tell us what is right and wrong and that's what the church does and then you know

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If someone does wrong you need you need the person with the sword make sure judgments carried out

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That's what the state does I'll get to that my second point, but

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So I compile I didn't compile lists so this question of what the

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King does is not new everyone's asked this

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Since you know forever in the New Testament

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It's so we're in the New Testament, and we're also in a kind of a silent period in terms of Revelation

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that the Bible is complete it's been complete for a while and

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So the a lot of the Kings you know

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That converted to in name to Christianity. We're kind of wondering like so we have

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We're now Kings that are supposedly Christian

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You know how do we form a kingdom? What do we do and so they asked this and of course our famous or more

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favorite King James the first

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wrote

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Quite a lot about the role of Kings from a Christian perspective. He's not the only one

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Quite a few people have written about this with the advent of Christianity

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Being mainstream so to say now in name only I'm not gonna

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When I say Christianity, I guess there's little see Christianity which would be broader and then big see Christianity

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Which would be you know safe people, but little see Christianity is now mainstream, so what does a king do? How does the king apply?

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biblical law to rules kingdom

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About paper I highly recommend you'll read is King James wrote

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It's called the true law of free monarchies, and he goes through and list the duties of of a king

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In brother Sean long time ago

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I guess preached a sermon about King James and he mentioned King James actually knew the Bible right and I'd listened to this and

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He's like well, you know I

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Know the Bible you know how much could he know he actually knows the Bible

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There's a difference between knowing the Bible and really knowing the Bible and he really knew the Bible

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He's this is before like the internet and you know concordances could only go so far

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You know so you actually the read the Bible to be able to pull verses out like yeah, you can defend your doctrine using

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Main verses, but can you go to like tertiary?

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Verses to defend your doctrine King James was able to do that

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So you're there in Psalms 101 Psalms 101 I

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Did not copy down on my verses, so I'll have to turn what they're with you

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Probably should just put my ribbon in there since there's one we're starting in

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These give myself a head start

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So the first

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Order the first thing that Kings do in this in this list

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Thank You King James the first is

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minister judgment

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Justice and judgment to his people he actually cites his you read some of his papers and he'll cite

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These are sources you'll see a little footnote where he gives the verse or the chapter that's talking about and

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In we in Psalms 101 this is a song of David of what he's doing

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One of the greatest kings of the Old Testament, so if you model yourself after King David

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Minus a few things you'll you'll do fine

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You know King James was famously monogamous

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So yeah, he he well understood of where to not follow David unfortunately

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Fortunately for James and unfortunately for David

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so this Psalms 101 as

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Judgment if you read the back half of it

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David's talking about carrying out and justice justice and judgment to his people right?

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He that worketh the seat shall not dwell within my house right?

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Judgment he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight you know he's judging people he's carrying out justice he that worketh

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I will destroy all the wicked of the land right that's judgment

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When King David's talking about I will destroy all the wicked of land he's being literal

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Probably executing them right that I may cut off all the wicked doers from the city of the Lord right?

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This is the first thing that Kings do is they administer justice and judgment to people they act as

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Judge jury and often executioner

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The other one is no they said is the advanced the good and punished the evil also from Psalms 101 right part of

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Justice and judgment is you know you're gonna have court cases brought before you right and you're punishing the evil and you're

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Advancing by punishing the evil you also advance the good that's just how things work

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you know if you have a

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counterfeiter and or

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Something of that ilk and you punish him you know

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That's good

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Next one is to assess

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Good

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Next one is to establish good laws to people and procure obedience to the same and as I said he cites

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He gives us sources second Kings 18 first three for I added the three through seven

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He just said second Kings 18, so he if you don't know it

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This is I think this is Hezekiah comes into the power comes in the power and lays down the law

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and

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So second Kings I

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Don't you could tell I don't really have any of the tabs little colorful tabs

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I also would have used those but I forgot to get those on Friday when I went the safe way so

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we're doing a do know it right Hezekiah comes into power and

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What is one of the first things he does right and he did?

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Did what which was right in the sight of the Lord according to all that that David his father did right next right?

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Establish laws and procure obedience the same he removed the high praises break the image cut down the groves

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Breaking the pieces the brazen serpent that Moses had made for unto the for unto those days children

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Isn't Israel did bird incense to it and called it the shoes town there we go

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This is this is a example of the pattern you see in

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Kind of the story of Kings where the people kind of follow the King's if you get that

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You pick up on that when Kings good and Kings amazing like Asa

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Hezekiah

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Josiah the people kind of follow right and

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Then when the King's wicked the people kind of follow downhill right as I said the King is really kind of the main character here

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The people follow him

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So one of them is established good laws of people when you do that

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You'll naturally kind of have the obedience of them people inherently know what is good and what bad the Bible says

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The laws of God are written on our heart. We may kind of try to ignore those but people when they're

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People it is a strong calling that people naturally try to do good, right?

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People may lie but a lot of people know even the secular word world lying is wrong, right?

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So the kind of people identify when someone is being good like a king and they'll follow him just naturally if he's doing these things

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You kind of see this in the famous people of history

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You know like Julius Caesar, but I think is the thumbnail of the video. This is kind of representation

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He's a populist right people knew about the corruption within the Senate of the day

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And so they followed Caesar who was really he is dealing with a lot of senatorial corruption

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you know, there's a lot of

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Hyperinflation not hyperinflation but inflation those days and Caesar was trying to bring it down

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Giving not taking away

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Senatorial held lands giving it rewards to his soldiers who followed him through gall and

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So people kind of identified that Caesar was you know a good guy and so they naturally just followed him and listened to him

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You see this in your workplace

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So I was one try to bring it down like something we all see in your workplace

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When your lead or your boss is really great and he's a trustworthy guy

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I'm fortunate enough that my supervisor is a really great guy really trustworthy and knowledgeable

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They kind of exude this air of like you kind of tell yourself like oh this guy's really great. I'm gonna follow him

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I'm gonna do what he says

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Is I trust him and that's what you see with the Kings is

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Again, you get this picture of when the Kings doing great everyone's doing great because everyone kind of knows these special person

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The next one is

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Psalm 72 if you want to you don't have you don't have to turn there. I'm kind of going all over the place right now

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It's a list

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but I suggest like

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You know as I said, I didn't pick these ones King James when he was writing he picked these ones

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So he knew his Bible. He was able to argue points

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He was able to point to as I said if you wanted to come up with a list of what King Kingly duties

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There are which you have chosen

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Psalm 72

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Right and of course, this is a psalm when I was reading it. It's kind of talking about Christ here if you really

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It's pretty obviously

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Talking about a future Messiah, but if you want to be a good king, you know

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Psalms about the picture of Christ also apply to you

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You know Christ is the King of Kings and if it's meant for the King of Kings, you know, it's pretty good advice

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And then verse 7 in in his days shall righteous flourish and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth, right?

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It's kind of saying like if the King's great

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This is all kind of stacks down the King's great and the King's following all the laws of God and

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Ministering justice there'll be peace within the land. There'll be kind of this stability again. You saw that within

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King James's rule where he's

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He's very strict. He's an absolute monarch

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There wasn't a lot of there wasn't any eternal fighting compare that with his son, right his son

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Charles the first he had a lot of issues. He married a Roman Catholic, which is issue one

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He was kind of you know, if you believe some of the accusations, he was kind of a little corrupt

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He spent a lot more money on the Navy

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I think they're supporting the Dutch revolt against the Roman Catholic

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He spent a lot more money on the Navy

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I think they're supporting the Dutch revolt against the Habsburgs in the Netherlands

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And this was costing a lot of money and you know, he kind of searched for money where he shouldn't have

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and so, you know, he watched the movie Caramel you get a pretty good idea of the whole thousand events, but

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What happens right the King the King isn't great and there's now a civil war, right? People do rise up

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It's not right that people revolt and rise up what the Puritans did

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Shouldn't have done that. She's just gone to America

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But the reality is we live in a fallen world and sometimes these things happen

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Even you know, it's not not a perfect world, but generally speaking if you're a good king if you're fair you're just

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You know, they'll still have their naysayers, but generally speaking things are going to be very good compared to like some of the

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You know the more wicked English Kings James the second

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Converted to Catholicism and was overthrown by

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King Prince William and Queen Mary of the Netherlands

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You know, that was a war that was a lot of people died in that they didn't need to be but what happened?

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The King was wicked

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Converted to Roman Catholicism, you know, I don't do that in England and

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He's or Mary Queen of Scots Roman Catholic persecuted the

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New English Church killed a lot of people did not that's you know killing innocent people isn't

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really considered

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Advancing the good and punishing the evil or justice and judgment

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So what happened she gets preach out of office and killed

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Well, the next thing that Kings do is they decide controversies

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This is part of a ministering judge justice and judgment and you don't have to turn here

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You don't have to turn here this this he cites first Kings three, this is the story of King Solomon

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Deciding the matter of whose baby this was, right?

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it's really crazy just as a

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Thought I was like well, what would happen if you're like that the soldier in that room, right?

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And your King just says well, let's just cut the baby in half

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And you don't really know where he's going with this

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About to cut a baby in half and then he's like actually

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Whichever if you don't know story two women come before Solomon and they they're having

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they both claim that the baby is theirs and

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Solomon says well, we're going to divide the baby if you guys can't agree on this one and

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Then one of the women backs out and says oh, we can't do we're not going to do that

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And he says, you know that that is the true mother because the true mother would never would

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Not want harm to come to her baby, which is just you know

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How would would you have come to that conclusion on that one? That is that is actually some really smart wisdom

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Well, this is one thing to judge the Kings do is they they judge controversies and settle issues

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Usually on the larger scale if you look at Moses once he appointed all the elders

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They dealt with the day-to-day stuff and Moses really dealt with the big large stuff that would affect multiple

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Large groups of people and this is something the king will do is you know, he's not going to get involved in

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Dispute about who the fence being a foot over into someone's property

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It's not what he does, but he will decide if it becomes an issue between two lords

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Well, the next one is Romans 13

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Of course

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Whenever a subject about absolute authority comes in to play Romans 13 is one of those ones and James writes

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To be minister of God for the wealth of them that do well as a minister

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As a minister of God to take vengeance upon them that do evil of course is one of the duties is the executioner, right?

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sometimes people just have to die and

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You know, we don't want

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Just everybody take matters in their own hands you get these back-and-forth

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Killings you think about the Hatfields and McCoys which is this constant retaliation or some of the gang violence in inner cities?

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Where it's just it's just a series of retaliatory

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Tax you kind of sometimes you need this independent

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disinterested party just to say well this this person is just going to die and

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matter is over right and

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That force us one of the duties of the king not literally

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Kings usually have other people do it

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there's a really great book called a

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Haman's diary. It's a

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16th century diary written by the

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Executior of Franz Schmidt of Nuremberg

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Where his father was randomly chosen to be an executioner they needed to kill somebody

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Now I think probably for murder or something

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But nobody actually wanted to do it right if when you even if you're killing somebody for the right reason

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You still are now a murderer, you know, not in the sense that it's innocent blood, but you still taking life and

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In medieval times you were treated differently, right? Everyone knew

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that you were

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Required for society, but no one wanted to be with you

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It's like if you ever talked to like garbage truck workers or like wastewater plant people. It's a dirty job

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Nobody wants it, but everybody knows somebody has to do it, right?

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You know, just make sure you shower before you come over the barbecue I guess

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And so this is something the King does is

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Appoints people usually to carry out God's wrath, right? A lot of the verses in the Old Testament

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You know carry on sentences and of course this they have to be enforced, right?

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What's the point of law if it's just stated there needs to be bite to the law?

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This is something also and actually sites as like I was going through it and in the

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Text document I had had a little hyperlinks when the verses come up and the next one is as a good pastor to go out

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And in before his people you never guess what he cited. He cited first Samuel chapter 8

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This is something when they we read it on Thursday

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the some the people demanded was somebody to speak for them and

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Actually, let's just turn there if you guys didn't memorize it. I

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I

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Still have it even ribboned look at that

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See

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Yep verse 20

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That our King may judge us and go out and before us and fight our battles

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He's not literally saying to fight about but be the leader be the pastor

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Not necessarily the the pastor of a church. Although as King of England at that time

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He was he did take a more direct role in the Anglican Church

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just by if you didn't know the Anglican Church has the King of England as their

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Their Pope kind of is more usually more distant than the actual Pope for the Catholic Church

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But technically that is how they're structured and so he kind of view he took a very active role compared to a lot of other English

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kings

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so but he's more talking about a pastor as

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More of like this like as a shepherd

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Where he kind of guy he viewed he viewed the people of England as his flock

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and he viewed himself more as a father figure to the people of England and

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another one the last one that he gave a list is

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Through the princess prosperity that people that people's peace may be pursued he cited Jeremiah 29. I read Jeremiah 29 a

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few times I

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Actually couldn't

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Get what he was trying to say here

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Jeremiah it's a letter

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to the people of captivity

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And you can read it on your on your own time I

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Think he's talking about verse 7 is what I came down to I

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Do not know what he was talking about here, but nevertheless is a great

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Great verse or great point they bring up is that through the princess prosperity the people's peace may be

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Procured this is one of the benefits of having a king is or supreme king like an emperor is

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They're not out

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They're not in the grind so to say right they have

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The money they have all the money right in theory they own all the land in like so they don't really need to

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Over burden people you see that with

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when their children Israel rebuilding the temple and

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They have the naysayers come up before I think it's Cyrus and Cyrus is actually like they're like oh, you know

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If they build a temple, they're gonna stop paying their tides and they're gonna start like not sending you the tribute

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And you know, he's king over one of the most powerful empires and at the time Persia was huge, right?

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And he says well who cares like yeah, well, that's like a decimal point like a part of fraction of a fraction of my wealth

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Yeah, let's just send actually you're gonna send your tides over there. Right? How about that? If you want to like step up to me?

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you're gonna get hit and

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Kings by nature of being like supreme have that ability right, you know

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To be more generous, right?

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They don't have to consider money, you know money if you're thinking about the super rich, of course the super rich nowadays

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Are just kind of wicked and greedy but

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You know in like in theory like the Kings who are just like super wealthy like, you know money's not a concern to me

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Like yeah, we're just gonna build a we're just gonna build some churches now

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And it's just done right there. I'll have to worry about the the budget. It's just we're now doing this

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My word is we're building a church here. And so that's those are the duties of the king

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So that just to recap so far we have a government because we're wicked and we can't manage ourselves

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Therefore we have a king and his ministers to manage us manage it for us, right and

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So why a king well the next question is you know, why a king

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There's a lot of forms of government out there, right? We have a federal republic headed up by a president

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That's our official form of government. We've had a king in the past

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Our last King King George was actually insane

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If you read the reports of his later life you might they don't know what was wrong with him

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They think it might have been bipolarism, but they just didn't really know that back then says never written down

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Well, so why a king? Well, just plain the Kings mentioned all over the place. There's no mention of

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You know democracy anywhere and you know, one of the examples of democracy is the the Jews voting to kill Jesus

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So there's your example democracy

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or in Daniel chapter 6 when all the you know, all the representatives conspire to try to get Daniel killed by

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Coming off the order to if anyone prays to anyone it isn't

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In the king of Persia that we put to death right? These are the examples of

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Democracy and Republics in the Bible. It's like not a great track record

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Not saying the Kings don't have some bad examples

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But you know Kings are pictured in a good light even otherwise like heathenish Kings like Nebuchadnezzar in

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chapters 1 through 3

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Well, this is actually another good book

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Actually have it up here

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It's called day Monarchia. It's written by the Dante

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he did political stuff as well and

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one of the issues that he was facing some context is

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During the early Renaissance period the Catholic Church was trying to expand into temporal politics

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and kind of over asserting itself and

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Which angered a lot of local princes who couldn't stand up to this and so Dante

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kind of flippantly was writing like actually the

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He's kind of wrote a whole political book about what the king does

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And then the second part of the book is now that we've established what a king is here's why the Roman

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Church should not get involved in politics and he actually does a really good job. It's a really interesting book, but

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he writes

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Therefore mankind is most like God when it is ruled by one ruler and consequently most in harmony of God's intention

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And this is what it means to be in good indeed ideal state as we established beginning of this chapter

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What was he talking about in the Bible?

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It says that man is made in the image of God right in a sense not just in kind of

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Physical proportions or appearances of course the Bible talks about God having you know identifiably human

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Physical traits like you know Moses sees the back of God you know God's hand right

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These things are no man has seen the father, but you know we've seen the son and it Bible says that Jesus is an expressed image

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of his father

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so I'm just talking about the physical nature, but also the image more of like a

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mindset of course I go back to the Bible saying that

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the laws of God are written on our hearts right and

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just by nature we he goes through the book and saying like

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We by nature just accidentally do these things that mimic God right if you think about

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You know the Trinity

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We believe that God the Father has the supreme will and that Jesus being perfect follows that will that Holy Spirit being perfect

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Follow that will but Bible also says that Jesus has his own will you know but he follows the father perfectly and

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This is something that

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That he's trying to tie the monarchy is well God rules of one will

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Therefore if we mimic that and rerule have do everything with one will will you better?

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We might say that in the household right I talked to pastor about this and he I think he said this before

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You know any any beast with two heads is a freak right?

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You see it in the household right if you have you know the husband wife kind of co-ruling

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It's chaos right you need one the one supreme will just kind of say this is how we're doing things

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There's no argument about it. I'm not saying that this has to be absolute like I mean

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Kind of have to listen might have a point

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But you kind of need that then you can have you can have ministers as king right and advisors good idea

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But you still need like we're doing this now

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And that's one advantage of having one

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Supreme King is he could just say well

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We're doing this now know if fans and buds or in a company right if you have a really good CEO

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And his will is like we're gonna do these things now. You know he makes sometimes

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He'll make decisions that may not seem you know

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economical right he might take a loss one year and

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Invest a lot into factories and workers or pay workers more Henry Ford was famous for this he he

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He took all the workers and like like thinking like tripper. They're having problems with turnover

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And so his solution the turnover was just triple everyone's salary right and it worked now

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Everybody is flocking to Ford factories to work they want to be there now

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Turnover is non-existent. No one doesn't want to work at Ford right now

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You don't have to retrain people but economically if you were to do this all of a sudden it wouldn't make sense

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Especially like if you have a thing about company as a board of representatives they might never do this

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They're not gonna think about that because it's gonna cost money right and they can't really picture to some intangible

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Future of like actually in the future this is gonna make us more money and be cheaper

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They're not gonna see that but if you have one

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Really smart guy who's like who's willing to go out and make these decisions it makes sense

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we're actually seeing this nowadays with our

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real estate loans where

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Banks are just since all the banks are kind of like spread out

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They all want to do real estate because it's something that's a shirt like people

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People are going to buy land and it's kind of low risk for them people are always going to want to buy houses and always

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Gonna need loans, and it's just kind of like well. Yeah, it's just always gonna make money

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but in times past a

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this is something that the second Reich did that's the German Empire post 1870 to

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1918 is data central bank right a supreme central bank who was able to make decisions that don't make sense in the now

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To for the future they'll say well. We're actually now going to

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Instead of issuing loans to real estate. We're not we don't need that we're gonna issue loans for factories

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We're gonna issue loans for paying for roads and factories stuff is not gonna

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Just how do you how do you quantify how much value highway generates right?

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How do you quantify if you were to build i-5 nowadays? How do you generate?

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How do you say how much is is gonna generate? It's kind of intangible amount of money, but hopefully everyone knows that having i-5

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cutting through from

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Southern California to Seattle and it's beyond is very important for trade the only trucks go on that right

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But you can't put that and how do you put that into numbers?

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It's very hard, but having a king is able to say we're going to build factories. We're going to be build roads

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We're going to invest in the future makes sense of course. This is

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this is a

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Something in the as I said brought up the

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Senatorial

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Corruption in the late Roman Republic we have all these voices

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They're all kind of trying to get their own their own grind to go and they wanted own little side hustles

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So say they're out there for themselves, and it's kind of just confusion

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Corruption people being cheated their solution to the labor problem was import slaves

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And so at one point like I think it's like a third of the Roman

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Population was slaves during time of Caesar and he no one no one likes that you know no one everyone knows I like

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competing with free label to labor doesn't work and so that's what happens when you get one of the problems with

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democracies and republics is

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You have multiple interests right again go back to having a king or emperor who's just has everything he owns everything

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You know he doesn't need anything more right? He's never going to be go starving. He's always going to be fed

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There's no have to worry about these things. She's able to make these hard decisions

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You know something about like bribes and stuff if you have like a small judge in a small town

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You might build a bribe it more right, but if you have

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Like the supreme judge who does everything like a king you know you can't bribe a king

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You can just take your stuff right? No. You don't need that money. What are you going to do?

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Not to say the kings in past haven't been bribed they have

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George III our last king was kind of an absent king and he let Parliament run right right over him and kind of let the EIC

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Do some things to us and that's one of the reasons we ditched them

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But so not to say the kings are free from corruption. They are at the end of day still men

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you know so

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We have a king well

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We don't have a king, but just to kind of keep recapping the points we need government because we're sinful and we're fallen

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The king has the set rules to follow biblically if you go through the book. It's pretty nice. King James had a pretty good list

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Kings are ideal because not only do they mimic

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What what God is is having you know being one?

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but you know they able to make these hard decisions and

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So my next this is kind of like a journey through my thought process is well, so we don't have a king

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We have a representative Republic or a federal Republic

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How does that work right some people you know I don't want to like say vague booking, but uh

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I've seen it over like my 10-year course of being like

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Online so to say is you see this a lot of people who rebellious say well the the Bible only talks about kings

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We don't have a king ergo. I don't have to follow the government, and that's just not true

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Obviously you kind of the spirit of the law is you know kings or rulers you know people rule over you

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So how does how would a federal Republic like ours fit into all this well I?

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Think I saw in the past year about this this on Thursday afterwards because we're talking about you know

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We just had a sermon about kings a little bit portion of a Thursday night sermon

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and

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You know my my thought process was well a federal Republic

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what we if you really think about how a government we've just split up all the offices of the king and

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Dish them out to three parties we of course have the if you don't know and federally we have the judicial branch

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Which is the Supreme Court and all the different Federal Circuit courts around we have the

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Legislative branch which is the Congress the House of Representatives the Senate they write the laws

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And then of course you have the executive branch and of course these are all just duties of the king split up and so

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Republics

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It's just a roundabout way of just having a king without having a king

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And just having a king would just make it simpler

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This is something that the the Romans knew right they they're famous for having a Republic everyone knows about the Roman Republic

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We modeled our government off of theirs kind of

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But everyone knows that in times of distress

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They would do away with the Republic and just appoint a dictator right this is okay

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This is like this whole democracy thing kind of cool right allows the senatorial class to make a lot of money

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But when the enemy was at the gates we just need some guy to just tell us what to do like

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So again, this is kind of like public. It's just a runaround for not having a king for various means

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But if my opinion on it Republics is if they can accomplish all the different duties of a king

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then

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They are effectively just are one

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And so we still have to even though we don't have a king we should still obey

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Republic as if they were one if they act like one as I said

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One of the issues with

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Republics is that they are not allowed to have a king

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is the corruption the Bible says in

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mark 324 everyone knows it of a

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my Bible verses on two-page and if a kingdom be divided against itself that kingdom cannot stand and that's really where you see

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Republics fall as you have all these different warring factions and

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They can't get along you see this a lot with European politics if anyone's interested in that way of the parliamentarian systems

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Where all these different factions have to form a united government and have a majority and they can't do that

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There is no government

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Yeah, and they shut down and just doesn't happen

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I think it happened of Germany just recently because the AFD gained a large majority and no one wanted to be with them

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AFD is like their right wing, but it's I think it's led by a

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Lesbian and a Muslim I think

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so, I don't know what kind of right wing they're doing but I

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Think if you actually line it up they come about in

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To like 90s Democrats is where they actually land on a political spectrum

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But no one wanted to be with them. Germany just doesn't like right wing anything. I wonder why

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Let's see

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So

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Should we like obeying the government is big thing?

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And the issue of legitimacy is brought up, right?

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We did not have a great falling out with the British government during the Revolutionary War

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We it's called the war right wars what happens when politics and kind of negotiations fail

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The reason for this is as I said King George III was actually mentally insane

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For some like you read later in his life and they just fight him like running around his nightgown and tree

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His Parliament on elected officials

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And the East India Company, they're the big trade company. We're trying to

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use the

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Colonies in America to offset their business losses

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I think they lost a lot of money in India and sort of trying to use us to

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Regain recoup their losses. That's why you have the the tea

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Boston Harbor

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We liked tea right we bought tea from the East India Company

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The problem was is they said actually now you have to buy our tea and then you have to pay taxes to us on our tea

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Right, so kind of double dipping on that and that's what was happening and we didn't like it because you know

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We were English citizens, right? We owed

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allegiance to the king

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By divided charters which were through the king not to Parliament

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And so we were kind of have you have the same no taxation about representation

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We didn't have representation in Parliament, right?

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and so we're kind of like hey, we were begging King George like dude you got to do something like stuff is happening and

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Over here. It's not great. We're about to be like all slag of the East India Company a factory

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You think about like the factory the factory store where you just kind of owe you debt

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That was about to happen to us and he just didn't want anything to do with it

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Was let part of it so we

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Said well, we're gonna be there, but we're it's still a kind of rebellion against the king

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however, and so a lot of people say well where that was illegitimate, but

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We did win in 1783 we won and then in 1814 during the war of 1812. We also won against the British

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So obviously if you're to believe in like divine providence and God and trial by combat

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You know we won so obviously something was legitimate or

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We'd end up like the traitor of South who they seeded from the federal government and they were crushed in less than four years

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and

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That's what happened. That's what rebellion against a power looks like is you get crushed by the legitimate power and

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So

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and a lot of these a lot of these

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Excuses of why we shouldn't follow government really come down from rebellious people who just don't want to follow government

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You know some people are kind of more educational and they want to kind of question authority as like this

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I think the socraterial

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Method where you just ask questions to gain understanding

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Most people who like you think about these libertarian types. They just want to do their own thing. They want to be told

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they never really grew up and

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And

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They they just don't want to follow authority. So everything everything that they don't like is just illegitimate

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Some people bring up that you know the saying no king but Christ as

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You know like oh, we shouldn't have a king but Christ our king

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I don't really see how one a human can threaten a title of God

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And also one of the titles of Christ is King of King Lord of Lords

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So that would presuppose that there are kings and of Lords to be king and Lord of so

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One of the other ones I've heard is um, you know a slight twisting of acts 529 if you turn there

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this is the we ought to be a God rather than man and

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It's actually really interesting if you read that because it has a parallel it later in acts. I'll go there. There's kind of a parallel

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situation that happens X

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529 of course, this is um, it's Peter

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Yeah, this is a Peter and one other of the Apostles

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They get arrested it's

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it's the whole passage in starts in verse 17 and a high priest rose up and

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All that with him the Sadducees were filled with the Ignatian and they laid their hands on the Apostles and put them in common prison

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So who's doing the resting?

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it's a Sadducees right of the two sects the Pharisees and Sadducees the Sadducees were the

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More wicked ones. I don't think the sadducee ever gets saved in the Bible, but you see some Pharisees do Paul Pharisee

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Gamaliel, you know, he's also a Pharisee, but he does speak later in this chapter. He does speak some some truth

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Nicodemus Pharisee, right? You see the interactions of Pharisees where Jesus just grossed them

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But the Pharisees a little bit more understanding but again who's doing the arresting? It's the Sadducees the high priests

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Did were they the lawful authority in the land? No, the Romans were and they put them in common prison and

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Then the prison doors open that night, right and the disciples leave

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Did they break any laws to end up in prison in the first place any Roman laws? No, they never broke a Roman law therefore

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They're innocent men and they could just go out of prison and then later on the

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What I assume is the militia the Romans used the militia a lot kind of these local guys as police officers and

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they drag them back to the council and you get

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You get the council again not the Roman court system these are just high priests and

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They say hey, did we tell you not to we told you not to do this thing and if he's Peter?

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You know fires back. We ought to be a God rather than men, right and he goes on this whole thing

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Really great and then Gamaliel as I said just he spits some truth out, right?

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He makes a great point and they let him go. All right

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So the whole situation is well one they had no authority to make the arrest in the first place

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two they had no authority to charge him and

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again

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They didn't lack. They lacked any authority, right?

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These are Sadducees and Pharisees the Levitical order that they stood for is dead. It's gone

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These are just a bunch of posers in the temple, right?

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Now it's be like in the modern equivalent of the the apartment complex leader, right?

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Coming up say you can't let them go

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Complex leader right coming up say you can't knock our knock doors of our tenants and

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It's like well, what authority do you speak of?

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Because the Supreme Court says I can

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You know, that's higher authority. That's an actual legally by like legal document Constitution says I can and

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You are right you're a worker here like the maintenance guy. It's like dude, who are you?

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the same thing it's like these are just

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They're just men right they're not they have no authority that's whatsoever

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right, so

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They've been breaking Roman laws. So they weren't actually they're innocent men. They're free to go at the end of it

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Of course the next time prisons brought up in a in the book of Acts is the story of Philippian

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jailer right Paul and so Silas

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unlike in

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Earlier on they were actually charged with breaking Roman law

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I don't know exactly what Roman law they break but they were accused of it

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and in verse 21 16 acts 16 if you can guess

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Verse 21 says in and teach custom was just not lawful for us to receive neither to observe observe being Romans

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I guess there must have been a law against it, but they were put in prison and

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Similarly they had a chance to escape right everyone knows the story. There's a I think it's an earthquake and

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Yeah, and earthquakes and everyone's doors open and all like all this stuff breaks and they're still there right and

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You know that the prison warden comes by so freaking out

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I you know, it's about to kill himself and if everyone knows the story Paul's like, oh, we're still here, right and later on

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You know, then they have the whole story the jailer can converted

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But at no point that they leave they still obeyed the Roman government they could have probably left right?

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The jailer probably would have let them let them leave the prison at this point

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They're pretty good friends

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But they still stay in prison and later on how they get their captivity and as they say well actually we're Roman citizens and

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All the other guys are like, okay, we can't like beat you beat you. We can't do anything

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I think this happens later on where Paul's about to be beat and he says well actually we're Roman citizens

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so just contrasts being the two is you know Peter and

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Already forgot to other the other Apostle

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they were under no obligation to obey some bunch of posers and of a dead religious order and

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So the end they didn't but Paul did obey the Romans does it multiple times?

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He's you know, it's no issue

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You know Peter

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who

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Would later of course right first and second Peter which have a lot of verses about obeying powers, right?

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and this wasn't I don't think he had a like one of the

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Physical Peter moments, I guess where he just didn't get it. I think he was right in both situations. So that's

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You know, they still they obeyed even Christ obeyed Roman the Roman law

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going before

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pilot he just says like look I gave you is basically you were given this power and

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They still obeyed it

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All right

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One of the points that Dante brings up to kind of prove that the role that the Empire is supreme to the church

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Is he said well the Empire has existed before?

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Before the church did and Christ obeyed the Roman Empire in all points, right? Oh

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You know, he chose of all the times he could choose to be born. It's during a Roman mandated

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Census he comes into being at the order of Augustus

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Indirectly he obeys all Roman laws

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Right see this with the story of like when they try to get him on something when try to get him on the coin

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He's like actually he comes out the actually, you know, or if the women caught in adultery, right?

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Jews weren't allowed to kill people according to their law

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And he gives gives an out that he's not he's blameless before the the state and so

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You know, hopefully

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The points of this part are you know, we have Kings because we're holy bully. I really went over

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Somebody checked the time. What kind of rapid through the next point?

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I went a lot longer on that one that I intended to so we have a king because we're sinful we

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There's a set rules for Kings on how they should act how they should be in the Bible if they're follow the Bible

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They'll be great they don't necessarily I want to say is they don't necessarily have to be saved to be a good king it helps

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But it's you seen a lot of heathen Kings

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Next point is the well the church and state

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I'll just try to rapid fire through this one

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Since I went way way farther my first point

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I guess guess it really was brought up after her pastor Thompson get into the second point 50 minutes into the sermon

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is

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The next one is the church and state and separation thereof in English way in America

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We have this concept of the separation church and state which is usually put is

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Usually misused the push that the state must be some atheistic secular

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organization where the clear intention goes back to when

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Large portions of colonies were effectively had an official state religion or the Anglicans

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If you didn't know the word anti-disestablishment and terrorism comes from the disestablishment of the church states of Massachusetts

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New Hampshire and

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Connecticut which were congregationally run they actually had a church state and

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There's a really great paper written by Isaac Bacchus called appeal to the public for religious liberty

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And he goes sees a Baptist minister and he goes through why we should have the First Amendment

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If you didn't know the First Amendment was pushed by Baptists who were persecuted for not baptizing babies usually that was the big one

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By Americans and he goes through and said I actually this is unbiblical

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Also goes through

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Separation church and state is that religious leaders should not hold secular office

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historically like the law lords would write that they you know

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historically the charge against

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Bishops or pastors that hold secular office was they just call them hermaphrodites

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if you see in an old document like I think Thomas Jefferson called John Adams or hermaphrodite wasn't literally is because

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He's holding two offices, that's just why they told it

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Of course you have the Jesus telling pilot

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You know my kingdom is not of this world if my kingdom were of this world

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Then my servants would fight that I should not be delivered to Jews. You're right

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He's saying look my kingdom the kingdom of God is not of this word. It's not physical thing

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It's not a threat to any established order. It's next. We're you know, we haven't hit the kingdom of God yet, right? That's later

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So then how can the church dictate the state or the church has a separate thing going than the state

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You know, I

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think everyone in

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Every everything would of course everything would be better if the people in charge were nominally Christian, right little see Christian

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the closer the better like, you know

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Fundamental like I guess Baptist of historically just made terrible politicians. We've had four Baptist presidents

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Harding

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Truman

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Carter and Clinton

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Yeah price if you had if you're Baptist and I just heart set on being a president for whatever reason not looking good

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But you know, there's a lot of Presbyterians that are right about a lot of things of the Bible Episcopalians

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Have had a lot of presidents who are up pretty good, right?

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Because you don't again you don't have to be saved to be a good person it helps not required

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Isaac Bacchus would write that the church is armed with light and truth to pull down the strongholds of iniquity and the gain souls to

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Christ and into this church to be governed by his rules therein and again to exclude from such their communion

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Who will not be so governed while the state was armed with the sword to guard the peace and the civil rights of all persons in

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Society's punish those who violate the same say saying like look the state has its mission the church has its mission completely different

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If you know like the great commandment in mark 16, I'll just read it

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You know go you own the world and preach the gospel to every creature

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He that believeth and baptized shall be saved and he that believe not shall be damned and these signs shall follow them that believe

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in my name shall they cast out devils and they shall speak with new tongues and she take up servants and

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If they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them right, you know, this is the great commandment

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Given to the churches. It doesn't say anything about the church running government. That's not our job, right?

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Bacchus writes that I don't have it in here

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But you know he's writes that there's such mischief that pen cannot ever tell when this happens right?

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I mean we what happened usually

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people write justice people are being killed or

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Persecuted, you know being beaten the Baptist were famously beaten in Virginia which caused James Madison to be more religious like

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Tolerant wanting religious freedoms not to say that, you know, the government can't get involved in certain

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You know things things such as the Mormons and Romanists who are

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you know

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threaten the

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Fabric of society the Mormons were famous for just extrajudicial killings in early days. That's why they're way out there

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That's why there's an army base and there used to be an army base in Salt Lake City. These Mormons would just kill people

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So that's why the government got involved right? That's a just thing

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Right, but the government wasn't involved in further weird doctrines

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Those mostly just because they're killing random people the papists who are foreign power coming in to influence us

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That's when the government gets involved

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But you know we have our own battle like stuff like the Episcopalians

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I don't think the government should like oppress the Episcopalians even though they're like

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literally gay in a lot of cases

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That's that's a spiritual battle. That's spiritual warfare is that's for the church to expose and pull down

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You know, it's bad precedent if we give the government power to do these things because yeah, it's great

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Yeah, what if we have like a you know, a fundamental Baptist like executive branch, that'd be really cool

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But it's dangerous precedent is rather just everyone just government just not be involved in this at all

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Not to say that government should be completely secular because as I said right

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Government wields a sword, but the church wields a torch or the flashlight nowadays

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And so you know how can the government judge if all the judges don't know what's right and wrong?

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So definitely, you know having you know, nominally Christians, you know, their Bible in government is of course great

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As for like enforcing that you know

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Baptists of historically not not done this

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You can't compel another one is Christian Liberty. You cannot compel people to belief, right?

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We'd have a really probably really good great soul in numbers if we could just compel people to be saved

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We'd also probably be arrested because

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You I don't know how you're gonna compel someone to do something, but probably not legal whatever way you're gonna do it

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So we can't compel

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So we can't compel

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People to be saved or not. So how can we compel beliefs?

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Legally, right people have to come to the truth on their own and again, it's a church's job to do that

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Again like, you know if it's unlawful for

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Bring a civil suit against believers then like how much more unlawful would it be for the government like

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You involve the government in this and these kind of things

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Kind of flow so a little bit of time

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My last one is what so how should we interact the state?

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As a person as a church, we should be separate

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You know, we obviously if someone here was running for political office and it was a Baptist in Connecticut

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Jane McCormick who's running for political office there. It's definitely shouldn't be like

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It'd be like wicked to excommunicate him for that

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You know, so, you know, so one's so one's running for office in our church probably that's just a job, right?

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That's his prerogative

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So churches stay out of this kind of thing governments just stay out of

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Dictating what beliefs are lawful or not if it doesn't threaten, you know, the peace of the people

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Well, so how should the inner people interact with the?

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Really quickly, how should you interact with the state?

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It's kind of just up to you on how much the Bible gives guidelines, right?

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It doesn't you cannot compel like I can't

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You can't be compelled to like go vote or something. That's up to you if you want to do it

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And but there's certain guidelines like, you know, we're told not to curse the king in Proverbs 20 verse 2

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It says if you curse the king that's wicked

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Proverbs 20 verse 2 is not to provoke the king

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Ecclesiastes 10 20 is not to curse the king and 2nd Peter 2 is to honor the king

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I think it's actually 1st Peter chapter 2 is where it says honor the fear of God honor the king

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In 2nd Peter we have the false

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You can turn it for a while. I have it mostly written down 2nd Peter. It has because it describes reprobates or it says

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But chiefly them that walk after the flesh and the lust of the uncleaness and despise government

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Presumptuous are they self-willed they are not afraid to speak evil dignitaries, right? This is a this is talking about

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Reprobates in this whole thing right these

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Obviously, right so they are speaking evil dignitaries disbeying government and

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Bringing railing accusations is not that will be a good thing

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Right

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Online you know probably not normally involved but in online drama and stuff, you know, not church drama

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But just general online stuff the accusation of pedophilia gets thrown around everywhere

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Uh, I was actually one of the podcasters I listened to he says you treat the pedophilia accusation

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We would say reprobate as a loaded gun, right if you call someone to reprobate you are saying they should be put to death

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That is a serious thing, right? If you're not willing to do that yourself

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You shouldn't call someone a reprobate that is if you're wrong

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That's railing accusation if you're right, then yeah go for it

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You know if you're if you know you're right on something, you know, you know fire off in precatory prayer every now and then

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But if you don't know it

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You know and you call someone a reprobate that's you know, I think would be a fall under per se defamation case

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Um, I know pedophilia if you call someone a pedophile and they're not that is per se defamation. They will win it

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They just win court cases that way so you better be sure of an accusation not just you know fire from the hip

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Call someone something

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Um, you know someone like if you call, uh, you know, scott bassin a reprobate. He is he's gay. He's openly gay

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Uh, he's our secretary of the treasury or think right now, right?

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It's on wikipedia ever he's married to a dude like yeah, he's a reprobate

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Uh, it shouldn't be anywhere in office

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He's he is actually an okay secretary to treasury

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But if you read what he did other stuff he did, I think he worked for sorrows before so

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Pick pick one and you could probably disqualify him on both

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Uh, but yeah, definitely don't rail against stuff. Don't rail against leaders

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You know

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I joined facebook for marketplace. Of course everyone it starts recommending you kind of people in your circles

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Uh, and somehow I got thrown into like the libertarian christian circle and they're just like you have those people

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firing off from the hip

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Railing accusations against politicians with no proof just saying these things and that's wicked

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uh, you know

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Yeah, it's the khalousi estes 1020 says curse not the king in the heart for a little bird will carry it through the air, right?

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Yeah, go on twitter that little bird is twitter. It's there it used to be their thing

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um

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Yeah, so it's but it's pretty easy to

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Not get the police involved in things

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Uh, if you haven't noticed when we got soul winning, that's usually the only time you

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Interact with police and the spirit and like doing the church mission and they usually just don't show up by themselves

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Someone has to call them there, right? There's no police patrols

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And usually they just don't do anything, right?

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Or they get there too late. I've only seen the police like kick us out of facility once

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And there's some townhouses over there and they actually had some actually legal backing to do that for some reason

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But usually if you be a normal person in society

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Um, you'll do fine, right? You don't have to worry about these things

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I

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Yeah, I mean

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You can say at the

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During the events of revelation, you'll probably have more friction with the government

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That's not right now

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If just today if you don't speed going home, you're probably not going to talk to highway trooper, right?

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If you just be normal

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Police tend not they have bigger problems than harass random people. Sometimes they do that's that's a problem. But generally speaking

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Usually when you interact every time i've interacted as a police officer in a negative manner

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I did I was doing something wrong then I shouldn't have

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You know, I think they're wrong in both situations actually only one of them only got a ticket out one of them

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I could have fought it in one but I still broke the law

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Generally, yeah, just be normal. It's pretty easy actually think about it. Not that difficult not to be a little weird freak. So

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There's not many laws that you have to follow that will get it just in conclusion

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You know our

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In romans 12 18 says

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Is to live peaceably among all men, you know within reason

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That's something we should try to strive to do not be not be like james, too

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I think james talks about not be friends with world that's eminent to god

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I mean kind of like work friends like you have your co-workers and you're kind of friendly with your co-workers

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Hopefully it just makes life easier. If you just piss off all your co-workers

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Work's not going to be that great or no one's going to like you

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But if you're kind of like work friends where it's like

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you know, my work friends will talk about like, you know

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Sinful behavior that they do and

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They don't have to agree with it. I don't have to be there. I can just walk away

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and

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They they know my opinions. I have the title of division one hater at work because i've shared my opinions about what they do

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too many times

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Um, but i'm still friendly with them

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Just because i'm at peace I know I can I can give my opinions but it's again they do have liberty to choose

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not to listen and

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that's kind of I think our goal should be with

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You know these higher powers is kind of understand what they're about. You know politics is very important. It affects all of us what happens

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You know, we shouldn't we shouldn't be like bet too embedded in it because that causes problems unless you really want to be

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That's up to you just know it's a it's a dirty job. It's a dirty business and not everyone's built to handle that

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you know

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Um, but we should not be like just weird isolated weirdos. They're just disconnected because that's how you get a cold

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So yeah, it was about so I think it says be in the world not of the world, right?

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You know, you're gonna have to go to work and talk to people who are unsaved and you know

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Adulters phonic fornicators drunkards you have to talk to these people doing your everyday life, but you shouldn't be friends with them

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um

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Yes

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I think that's about it. Uh, just two books some books that you should probably read

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Is appeal to the public for religious liberty by isaac bacchus. It's a pdf. It's online. It's from 1783

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He gives a great it's a great source where he gives a lot of bible verses for what he's a baptist

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And he gives a lot of bible sources for his separation of church and state

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It's pretty important to know that's a baptist distinctive. We've always kind of believed that

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Uh, and then uh king james has a lot of writings true law free monarchy great reading. I was reading from that

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Basilica doran, you know great reading his 69 speech to parliament great reading. He knows what he's doing

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I suggest you read it. Um, just give you a little bit of perspective on

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you know civil

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kind of like christian kingdom like

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Like a theocracy but christian kings other one is

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Uh dante algeri

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It's a little he's not a christian, but he's he's like nominally catholic culturally catholic

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But he gives a lot of you know

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He still uses the bible to kind of explain what the duties of kings are and why the church the catholic church should not be

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Involved with that. I put that as like a little bit more comical. He makes some really great points about it, but

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I definitely recommend you read james king james's writing and isaac bacchus

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with that

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A little bit over we'll close in with a little prayer lord is thank you for helping preach your message

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So I ask you a blessing of edify today and a blessing to sing it to you jesus and pray amen

